Roadeo!

[Patrick Moore]

UPS just called. Two days early, from Colorado.

Will probably replace the Swift with a Flite. Will attach Shimano PD 7410 pedals. Am waiting for shipment of Rene Herse Stampede Pass tires and TPU tubes.

I’ve never used a modern integrated indexed drivetrain (this one is Ultegra R8000 11 speed STI), and it all may devolve into silver cold forged friction with dt shifters, but I will give the R8000 group at least 100 miles. Also, must switch front brake to right lever.

More to come!

Alhamdulillah!

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[Gordon Stam]

Beauty!

[Andrew Joseph]

I am so pumped to hear about this one!  Stunner

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Patrick, it’s gorgeous!!!! 

[John Rinker]

That's a sweet-looking ride, Patrick. Mabruk!

[John Dewey]

Beautiful indeed, Patrick. Hand-built by true artists, as close to perfection as we get in this life I’m quite sure. Does yours have bosses for DT levers? If so, even better. 

ROADEO was created more recently than my RAMB, but even after more than 2 decades and thousands miles I just can’t get enough. That deadly sin, envy, troubles me no more 👍😎

What good fortune, PM! 

Jock

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[Will Boericke]

With a subject line like that, I feel like thid thread needs a Copeland soundtrack.

W

[Jerry Lynn]

Your Rodeo is liken to a classic AC Cobra chassis with an LS2 power plant.

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, everyone.

[Ben Miller]

Patrick,

Great looking Roadeo! I can't wait to hear about how you think it fits into your ideal of a geared road bike after you spend some time riding!

Sadly, it appears that your Roadeo doesn't have DT shifter bosses. It's the same on my Roadeo. I believe Mark want the Roadeo to be more of a pure modern road bike, complete with integrated shifting. Either way, it is probably the one thing that makes me pull down my Rambouillet more often that the Roadeo... You could always mounted some clamp-on DT shifters or get bosses brazed on. Though that paint job looks immaculate I don't think I'd be a hurry to mess it up.

[Ryan Fleming]

Patrick...glad you got the bike...no doubt some tweaking will happen which is part of the fun....but hopefully it works out for you. Happy trails!

Ryan

[Josh C]

Killer

[Patrick Moore]

That polished-to-silver Ultegra goup is, to my eyes, the best of both worlds. How shiny silver transforms the dark, bulky, asymmetrical shapes — am re-reading LOTR for the 20th time; the Ultegra group reminds me of Mordor — into something of beauty. The carbon fiber cages are just bitter resentment. If anyone does this de-anodizing for pay, please contact me. But kidding aside, we’ll see after riding the bike whether it’s important to get rid of matt black components. Perhaps not.

No, no dt bosses, alas, but I’d probably used barcons anyway, if I rebuild the bike.

So, keeping the Ultegra group for now, tho’ Sharon, mgr at Fat Tire West, wants it and would probably pay to cover costs to switch to cold forged silver aluminum. This bike, — lovely as it is even with the Ultragra components — will be a “special use” bike, like a Brompton, and not a “real” bike. That may change as I ride it more. But for now, it is an occasional bike for longer group rides involving hills, while my 2 fixed road bikes and the derailleur dirt road bike will remain my “main” bikes.

Frankly, again, the thought of having to rebuild this frame does not resonate. If the Ultegra group works well and I continue to ride mostly fixed (or ditchbanks), then this bike will be one that doesn’t need obsessive customizing and can remain stock to be taken down for those 1X/month longer hillier rides.

I bought the dim, forbidding black crabon fibre’ (BSNYC’s spelling) bottle cages as a sullen, dreary antidote to Leah’s sunny rainbow anodizing. We’ll see who wins. (Is there anyone who can remove black anodizing and replace it with multicolored anodizing? Then I could beat Leah at her own game. And negate my own premise. And wouldn’t multicolored-anodized Ultegra cranks be something special!)

In other news, the RH order containing inter alia 2 pr EL Stamped Pass 32s and a stash of TPU tubes arrived this afternoon. Replace tires ’n’ tubes, add sealant, probably replace saddle with Flite, add 7410 pedals, do some minor adjusments; God willing, inaugural trial ride, short, on Saturday.

PS: That Vanilla is delicious.

Patrick Moore, who this early afternoon rode NE and returned SW on a 20-mile out ’n’ back to the Balloon Fiesta Park, where they’re holding the XXXth annual Alb Int’l Balloon Fiesta, on the inevitable 1999 Joe Riv Road Custom gofast fixie, with the usual effortless 75” fixed delight despite the daily annoying switch from winds NE to SW from about 12 noon to 1 pm.

[Patrick Moore]

But man, Leah on a light Roadeo on a fast group ride — that would be a winning combination. And I’m completely serious, for once.

Patrick Moore, who used to be damned fast himself in his 50s.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 6:10 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:

… I bought the dim, forbidding black crabon fibre’ (BSNYC’s spelling) bottle cages as a sullen, dreary antidote to Leah’s sunny rainbow anodizing. We’ll see who wins. (Is there anyone who can remove black anodizing and replace it with multicolored anodizing? Then I could beat Leah at her own game. And negate my own premise. And wouldn’t multicolored-anodized Ultegra cranks be something special!)

[RichS]

(Almost) new bike day for Patrick! Congratulations! Now you've got a "gofaster" than your Joe Riv Road Custom:-))) Looking forward to hearing about all the fun you'll be having with this one.

Best,

Rich in ATL

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Well, I can’t quite find a rainbow carbon fiber cage but this one is the poisonous black with some oil slick for a touch of the rainbow…

Red is HARD to work with in color schemes. 

https://supacaz.com/product/manta-cage-carbon-injected-oil-slick/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=18241488667&gbraid=0AAAAADLXcyMPLJFOMVwJw-1dR-8diSQSW&gclid=Cj0KCQjwl5jHBhDHARIsAB0YqjzUuL9YuN3ORlYn39_gULhrjOTN1WKNKvp-T4eN_UyavcC1PXAPBakaAmSoEALw_wcB

On Wednesday, October 8, 2025 at 8:10:29 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Yeah, but how would I explain to Charlie? No one wants to upset a golden drop of sunshine such has himself. Charles Gallop, first of his name, is a bike that insists on loyalty.

[ascpgh]

Very nice Patrick.

Anticipating your reporting after those 100 miles.

Andy Cheatham

Pittsburgh

[Ryan Fleming]

Me too! Think it's a good idea leaving as is for now...

[Patrick Moore]

Very first.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2025 at 7:09 PM Chris Cullum <yvrand...@gmail.com> wrote:

Is that your first rodeo?

Chris Cullum
Vancouver, BC

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[Patrick Moore]

Fairy-like sylph-slender silver cranks: as lovely as Superbe Pros or Dura Ace 7410s or GA 300s or Mavic Starfish or even Logics or Specialized “Flag” (??S1??), (and, a generation or 2 laterTopline Superlights — most beautiful and sylph-liket of all?), before these there were the uber-slender pro or club quality “cotterless”* steel cranks. They even made hollow steel cottered cranks that weren’t much heavier than 1970s mid-rank cotterless.

I’m just old enough to remember the big hullabaloo during the switch from cottered steel to square taper aluminum cranks on mid-range road bikes; concrete instance, in senior year 1972-3, I envied a HS friend who had a lower-middle-class Raleigh bike with square tapers — “cotterless” — while my upscale Sprite (“upscale” modifies “Sprite” with B-15, 48/44 X 14-28 chromed steel cottered half-step double, Simplex Delrin Prestige, rat trap pedals, Raleigh-branded Weinmann centerpulls and levers) had very slender but heavy chromed steel cottered cranks. But I was faster than he.

Chater Lea:

[Patrick Moore]

...before these there were the uber-slender pro or club quality COTTERED steel cranks.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 8:11 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:

...before these there were the uber-slender pro or club quality “cotterless”* steel cranks. They even made hollow steel cottered cranks that weren’t much heavier than 1970s mid-rank cotterless.

[Patrick Moore]

I’m curious about Roadeo pricing over the years. I’m not going to give details of my own purchase; the seller offered me a remarkably good deal, and I took it, and I’m very grateful.

But I’m interested in Rivendell’s priciing history for frame fork, headset. IIRC, f/f/hs started at $1800; but where did this go afterward, and what was the final cost of F/F/hs until Riv ended production? — I think that the cessation might have been as late as 2024, since IIRC I saw the Roadeo FS on the Riv website in 2024.

Anyone?

 can anyone give a history of the Roadeo’s different models, the differences that mark each Roadeo iteration, and the history of the price for frame + fork?

[Garth]

As I recall Patrick at last count the Roadeo was a made-to-order option only and sold for $2800. I figured I could find it via the web archive, and surely here it is. 

http://web.archive.org/web/20221117235641/https://www.rivbike.com/collections/framesets/products/roadeo

[Jim M.]

On Wednesday, October 8, 2025 at 9:11:14 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

But I’m interested in Rivendell’s priciing history for frame fork, headset. IIRC, f/f/hs started at $1800

Pretty sure 2010 was first year and they were $2000 then. Only option, I believe, was threaded or threadless stem. 

Nice buy! The Roadeo is one of the peaks of Grant's designs, in my opinion, as is the Legolas. I think you'll enjoy it immensely.

jim m

walnut creek

[Ben Miller]

Patrick, you're mentions of LOTR and Mordor had me reading "So, keeping the Ultegra group for now, tho’ Sharon," as Sauron twice before I saw it correctly :) And I would love, love to hear about Leah going on a tryst with a Billie-bared Roadeo and then having to explain that to both her husband AND the Scoundrel Charlie ;)

Jim is correct, Riv started the Roadeo in late 2009 with 2010 being the first full year of them. Here is is the web archive from Dec 2009 for the Roadeo. And they went a bit longer than you remembered, they only removed them from the site a few months ago. I remember looking at the Riv site and seeing them still listed at the start of your curiosity into getting a geared Road bike. Pretty amazing that during the 15+ year run of the Roadeo Rivendell managed to only keep the price increase at $800. It is still a 20% increase, but I feel like prices in the bike industry have risen much faster than that. In fact, compared to the other Riv models it's really good: over the same time frame the Sam Hillborne has increased 75% in price.

[Patrick Moore]

I laughed at Sauron for Sharon. 

Thanks to Garth and Ben for Roadeo price history.

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[Mathias Steiner]

Leah wrote:
>>  Charles Gallop, first of his name, is a bike that insists on loyalty.

We'd all do well to remember this basic rule:

Don't ever love anything that can't love  you back.

[Leah Peterson]

Worry not, Mathias, Charlie is OBSESSED with me.

In fact, we’re headed out the door for 26.4 miles now. Bye!

Sent from my iPhone

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