Coil springs 2+2

[teegee777]

The 2+2 failed its MOT today with just a broken front coil spring, I tried telling the MOT guy that Quantums have dual springs on the front but he didn't seem to believe me. I guess this repeats an old train of posts,but I've trailed through them and can't find a cheap answer ! (I don't want to change to adjustable Spax). I appear to have red quantum springs, Off the car they measure about 262mm by 107mm diameter. Is there a modern equivalent to put on which is about the same size/tension etc? I believe that the Quantum red springs are no longer available? Thanks Tony

[Jim Hearne]

Dual springs ?, i think you are mistaken, certainly not on a Quantum or any similar age Ford.

 

If anybody knows the spec of the Quantum red springs then there are companys that will make springs to any size and rating you need.

 

I may have a second hand set.

 

Jim

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[Derek Clews]

HI Tony,

I am sure some will disagree but I had the same and want the 2+2 to be on the road for another year before a major renovation.  So I went on ebay and got some XR2 front springs and struts and fitted them.  That was fine for the MOT and cheap.  The ride height is a little higher but not a problem, in fact I have more ground clearance and a slightly softer ride, both of which are welcome.  

I too am unsure what is the best for long term use, but if you need a quick fix use the standard items.  The job of replacement is relatively quick and easy. 

KYB items springs and struts £90 and strut covers, top bearings and rubbers £43, if you need them.  There is bound to be a custom expensive option which I will consider for the long term future.  

Cheers 

Derek

On 2 Apr 2019, at 21:06, 'teegee777' via Quantum Owners Group <quantu...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

The 2+2 failed its MOT today with just a broken front coil spring, I tried telling the MOT guy that Quantums have dual springs on the front but he didn't seem to believe me. I guess this repeats an old train of posts,but I've trailed through them and can't find a cheap answer ! (I don't want to change to adjustable Spax). I appear to have red quantum springs, Off the car they measure about 262mm by 107mm diameter. Is there a modern equivalent to put on which is about the same size/tension etc? I believe that the Quantum red springs are no longer available? Thanks Tony

[Jim Hearne]

The Quantum red front springs on the 2+2 should give a higher ride height than the XR2 springs which were really too low for the 2+2.

Possibly your red springs had settled a bit over the years so the XR2 ones were actually higher.

 

Jim

[Derek Clews]

Most likely as it had those springs for 18 years…………!  I suppose new any type of springs would feel better than old broken ones ;-)

Derek

[f_pla...@yahoo.co.uk]

Sorry Jim, that was my attempt at humour with the MOT tester!

The car is being prepared for selling (unfortunately) so I think my quick method will be the xr2 springs, I hope the shock absorbers will still be correct.

Thanks

Tony

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On Wednesday, April 3, 2019, 9:05 am, Jim Hearne <j...@quantums.info> wrote:

Dual springs ?, i think you are mistaken, certainly not on a Quantum or any similar age Ford.

 

If anybody knows the spec of the Quantum red springs then there are companys that will make springs to any size and rating you need.

 

I may have a second hand set.

 

Jim

 

From: 'teegee777' via Quantum Owners Group

Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 9:06 PM

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Coil springs 2+2

The 2+2 failed its MOT today with just a broken front coil spring, I tried telling the MOT guy that Quantums have dual springs on the front but he didn't seem to believe me. I guess this repeats an old train of posts,but I've trailed through them and can't find a cheap answer ! (I don't want to change to adjustable Spax). I appear to have red quantum springs, Off the car they measure about 262mm by 107mm diameter. Is there a modern equivalent to put on which is about the same size/tension etc? I believe that the Quantum red springs are no longer available? Thanks Tony

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[rob hancock]

Hi

I may have the spec of the red springs somewhere on the inherited computer. I am away until friday but will look then 

Regards rob QSC

[Hans Defauwes]

On my 2+2 I have 1.4 springs
Xr2 are to low for all those nasty dutch road bumps/drempels
Hans

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Onderwerp: [Quantum Owners] Coil springs 2+2

The 2+2 failed its MOT today with just a broken front coil spring, I tried telling the MOT guy that Quantums have dual springs on the front but he didn't seem to believe me. I guess this repeats an old train of posts,but I've trailed through them and can't find a cheap answer ! (I don't want to change to adjustable Spax). I appear to have red quantum springs, Off the car they measure about 262mm by 107mm diameter. Is there a modern equivalent to put on which is about the same size/tension etc? I believe that the Quantum red springs are no longer available? Thanks Tony

[kynastonp]

Before the quantum red springs were available I fitted MK2 fiesta diesel  springs to both a 2+2 and saloon , slightly stiffer but an increased ride height ,on the rear I used 1100 rear springs.

[Derek Clews]

Out of interest what ride height are people getting on the 2+2?  It looks like the crossmember for the gearbox mount is the lowest unless there is a different exhaust fitted.

Derek

[Jim Hearne]

Mine is too low, it has coilovers of a make that i now forget.

The gearbox crossmember is the lowest point, and on mine the exhaust downpipe isn’t far behind.

 

Jim

 

 

From: Derek Clews

Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 1:00 PM

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Cc: Derek Clews

[Derek Clews]

I have now had a chance to measure my ride heights to the lowest point of the gearbox crossmember.  The Coupe I know is lowered and rides at 3.5inches.  The 2+2 is on the standard springs and shocks with 14 inch wheels but suitably thinner rubber giving a neutral effect  and rides at 4.1 inches.

The 2+2 does appear higher than before as said probably due to the broken spring and settling.  But I cannot recall the Monroe set up being higher - maybe just my memory!  But it will now clear quite high speed bumps.  

ATB

Derek

[teegee777]

I got the local autoshop to order me some new compatible coil springs, he came up with KYB K-Flex RA1370 coils springs, for an XR2 1.6. (£42 a pair , 2019 prices). The car passed it's MOT. It seems a lot harder (unfortunately, as I live in the country and I feel the bumps) The car does seem to be slightly higher (they were about 300mm long and 10.4 mm thick coils) Thanks for all your help and suggestions. Is it worth keeping the old red spring for anyone (the unbroken one!), or has it had it's life now?

[chris...@btinternet.com]

According to my research a few years back (only just spotted it on my notice board).............

 

KYB;

Front springs - RA 1370 is 1.6 XR2 at 290mm long

                      - RA 1196 is 1.1 to 1.4 at 308mm long

 

Dampers are the same across the range.

 

Rear springs – NOT XR2

                     - RA 5045 – 10mm thick – 307mm long

                     - RA 5288 – 11mm thick – 295mm long but stiffer – listed for fiesta van (heavy duty) – I’ve got these on the rear of my saloon as I sometimes needed to carry a drum kit...

 

Chris G

 

From: 'teegee777' via Quantum Owners Group

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 11:27 AM

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[Derek Clews]

Hi All,

Just out of interest I have definitely got a pair KYB springs, RA 1370. (with new KYB dampers to match)  Ride 4.1 inches.   

For comparison my Jag XF ride height is 5.3 inches to the engine under tray.  

Found my old unbroken red spring measures 285 mm at the longest on the bench after being fitted in 2000 and taken off end 2018…….!  (dia 10.5mm thick coil)   Seems very close to the KYB?

Happy drumming Chris. 

Derek

[Bill Allison]

Just for interest, and in case useful to others, my saloon has 1.1/1.4 springs on the rear with spacers between body and progressive rubber bump-stops. Best of both worlds, good comfort two-up but happily accepts two rear passengers or 150Kg in the boot without issues. I suppose a good upgrade might be progressive rear springs...

Best regards
Bill

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