Control X32 with midi

[Patrick Spadrille]

I will probably purchase an X32 if i figure out how to control it with Qlab. The new snippets feature is really great. Do you have any idea how to make Qlab control the X32 with midi for snippets changes or scene changes?

[Daniel Perelstein]

Not to beat a dead horse, Patrick, but if this is still about the same issue you were struggling with last week, what you need is a dedicated video machine. 

From my quick googling, it seems that a mac mini is about a third of the price of an X32, and could run your audio so your current machine could run your video. 

Okay, I should probably stop making suggestions, as you are onto your own thing here...

Dan

On Thursday, May 1, 2014, Patrick Spadrille <patrick....@gmail.com> wrote:

I will probably purchase an X32 if i figure out how to control it with Qlab. The new snippets feature is really great. Do you have any idea how to make Qlab control the X32 with midi for snippets changes or scene changes?

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[Sam Kusnetz]

Now might be a good time to mention that while the X32 started off with a pretty good track record (amazing, actually, given the history of the company that makes it), there have been more and more reports of problems with it.

I’m afraid I don’t have any specific details on hand, but more of a notion that it’s not necessarily a trouble-free product.

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[Patrick Spadrille]

My videos issues is one of the reason i want to buy an X32 but not all. I see more and more reason to have a digital mixer assigned to Qlab. I read a lot about X32 ans it seems that against all odds the X32 is pretty reliable. I'm sure there is people having probleme with it, like with any digital mixers, it's not suppose to be perfect it's electronic. But a company who offers 3 years warranty make me feel secure. And apparently their customer service is very listening and quick if there is a problem. They seem to really have change their way of doing business. Anyway, could we go back to my question? :-)

[Kelly Schmidt]

You can use OSC
http://www.behringer.com/assets/X32_OSC_Remote_Protocol.pdf

[Rob Ram]

somewhat of a ridiculous statement, unfortunately from someone who seems to work for a pretty great company.. 

if you are referring to the delayed upgrade to their latest firmware.. then yes  a lot of people were whining. but no more than they were whining when qlab 3 was imminent and taking forever to be released. 

i own an x32 and i would love to hear some of the details that you don't "have on hand"

very irresponsible statement ..i could understand from an amateur user.. but from someone with a figure53 email account it just seems bizarre.

cheers. 

[Rob Ram]

you can absolutely trigger the scenes (and i assume now in firmware v2 the snippets as well) via MIDI you have been able to since firmware v1.

it seems premature to explain the process.. as you don't own it yet. 

i am waiting to finish a project deadline and then will be upgrading everything before my next design. FYI.. thought the scene with snippet capabilities will probably be great. you have better control by programming the faders via qlab rather than triggering the scenes via qlab if it is just for a mute or volume change. 

it seems a little more complicated but the flexibility is worth the little bit of trouble. 

it's definitely worth the price point. and certain things are easier than doing them on a digico.. thought he sound of the digico is insanely good. the sound of the x32 is closer to an LS9 with more features. 

I just designed a show on a M7CL and although i love and own some yamaha boards. i was literally shocked at how limited the network control of a yamaha m7cl is compared to an x32.. for example you can only access it via 1 ipad or mac at a time..  the x32 can have a lot of simultaneous connections. making it easy and inexpensive to get a few 50 dollar android tablets to use for band monitors for example. 

ask on the x32 boards from actual informed owners about it.. instead of on here would be my advice.. i would never have thought so.. but i wouldnt trust the field operatives as much as i used to. 

as for your video issues .. im unclear as to how the x32 would help.

i own a lot of mac minis and tend to use multiple macs if i have a lot of video in a show.. but the x32 was an infinitely better investment than an extra mac mini. for what it's worth. 

[Sam Kusnetz]

I wrote:

> Now might be a good time to mention that while the X32 started 
> off with a pretty good track record (amazing, actually, given 
> the history of the company that makes it), there have been more 
> and more reports of problems with it.
>
> I’m afraid I don’t have any specific details on hand, but more 
> of a notion that it’s not necessarily a trouble-free product. 

Rob replied:

> > somewhat of a ridiculous statement, unfortunately from someone
> who seems to work for a pretty great company.
>

> if you are referring to the delayed upgrade to their latest firmware..
> then yes a lot of people were whining. but no more than they were
> whining when qlab 3 was imminent and taking forever to be released.
>
> i own an x32 and i would love to hear some of the details that you
> don't "have on hand"
>
> very irresponsible statement ..i could understand from an amateur
> user.. but from someone with a figure53 email account it just
> seems bizarre.

After doing a bit of searching through the email archives, here are the details that I did not have on hand earlier: Matt Evans posted on 1/31/14:

> We are experiencing a technical glitch that hopefully you can guide us on how to correct.
>
> There have been two separate past experiences that when start a dress
> rehearsal with an audio file, the sound is distorted; almost sounds like the
> speakers are blown.  We've discovered that the issue resolves itself after
> restarting the QLAB software. After the restart it never occurs within the
> same show.
>
> Another problem we're noticing is a pop or click sound when audio is playing;
> this happens throughout the playback of the cue.


We worked with Matt to resolve the issue and in the end, using a different interface was the only solution that worked.

Does this prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the X32 is a bad product? No, it does not. But it does leave me with the impression that it may have fundamental flaws which render it worth avoiding. Given Behringer’s track record of more or less exclusively abysmal products prior to the X32, that doesn’t come as much of a shock and I don’t feel in the least bit remiss having and publishing this impression.

I’m sorry that my earlier email seemed irresponsible or ridiculous to you.

I’d be happy to discuss this further if you like.

[Patrick Spadrille]

i should receive my X32 next week so i want to already program Qlab for it because i have a show shortly after. I have read the user manual in depth now and i think i know the solution, please tell me if i'm right. I think i just need to add a Midi cue where the channel number 1 is a scene change, number 2 is a snippet change and number 3 is a cue change and the program change number is the corresponding number in the scene list, snippet list or cue list. If i work with physical midi cables, i can't test it right now. But i tried to use the IAC midi interface to communicate to the X32 edit (the mac application to remotely control the X32) and that doesn't work. I just want to be sure what are the settings that have to be done in the X32. Right now what i do is in Setup/Remote. I select Midi In/out and RX Prog C in Midi control and the IAC Bus 1 as interface. And of course in Qlab i have chosen the IAC Bus 1. Is that correct or do i miss something?

[Robert Ramirez]

Most people use the midi ports with USB to midi cable. I'm not sure if the x32 edit allows midi input. It didn't prior to v2.

And yes. Make a cue with the correct program change assigned in the scene etc.

On May 1, 2014 10:28 PM, "Patrick Spadrille" <patrick....@gmail.com> wrote:

i should receive my X32 next week so i want to already program Qlab for it because i have a show shortly after. I have read the user manual in depth now and i think i know the solution, please tell me if i'm right. I think i just need to add a Midi cue where the channel number 1 is a scene change, number 2 is a snippet change and number 3 is a cue change and the program change number is the corresponding number in the scene list, snippet list or cue list. If i work with physical midi cables, i can't test it right now. But i tried to use the IAC midi interface to communicate to the X32 edit (the mac application to remotely control the X32) and that doesn't work. I just want to be sure what are the settings that have to be done in the X32. Right now what i do is in Setup/Remote. I select Midi In/out and RX Prog C in Midi control and the IAC Bus 1 as interface. And of course in Qlab i have chosen the IAC Bus 1. Is that correct or do i miss something?

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[Patrick Spadrille]

I’m not sure about what you mean by « USB to midi cables ». Do you mean midi thru USB?

[Robert Ramirez]

As a sound card interface with qlab it may have issues..

There have been M-audio interfaces in the past that would stop being recognized as a midi interface in the middle of a performance with prior versions of Qlab.

There have been times where I have had to reboot qlab or the mac because it red X upon launch not recognizing the firebox or motu interface.

It would not appear in the patch list.

As soon as it rebooted it would. Or sometimes you would have to shut down start up.. Then plug the interface in then launch qlab.

Different brands...

That was the different companies' fault too I suppose. Or Apple's fault..

It isn't logical to jump to that conclusion about the x32. But whatever you have to  tell yourself.

The popping etc sounds like a sample rate mismatch.

Hope he gets it resolved.
I imagine he used an audio interface and plugged it in to his mixer via analog.

I wonder if he got rid of the x32 all together.. I wouldn't suggest buying x32 as an audio interface only..

Although it has worked flawlessly in that capacity with protools, reaper, boom recorder, and logic for me.

But since it won't work with qlab I may have to consider exchanging it.. I must be wrong or something.

Thanks for the heads up.

[Robert Ramirez]

Yea. Basically a simple midi interface. I use a few different ones. Motu fastlane
Maudio midisport 2x2..even a generic one that has a USB on one end and midi i/o on the other.

On May 1, 2014 11:31 PM, "Patrick Spadrille" <patrick....@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not sure about what you mean by <<  USB to midi cables >>. Do you mean midi thru USB?

[.]

As an x32 and qlab user..... I love the x32 its solid, but when using many of its "extra" they seem to have some issues. Most of which seem to be reported by behringer (from dealing with tech support) as grounding isses. Of note to qlab would be the orginal interface card xuf which has both FireWire and USB. Has this grounding problem. Caused me a major headache for one production. It would work fine for many of the shows then.... Just stop. No warning and not show disconnected from the computer so i didn't know what was going on. Took power cycling the x32 to bring the show back. The old card that caused this problem (has the FireWire/USB) connection is discounted now, so the new USB only card may be rock soild. If I got an x32 as a qlab interface being the main justification. I would get it from somebody i can return it like a big box music store, and I would run qlab passing audio though it for a few weeks off and on with out resetting the desk. Then I would use it In a show.

That being said. I love my x32 above ls9, m7cl. The new v2 software adds midi control of the desk, along with many other great musical theater add ons. Routing is in banks of 8 so that can be a bit frustrating. It you want more info let me know and w can talk off the board.

[Patrick Spadrille]

To the anonymous X32 user, have you figured it out how to control the X32 with midi on firmware 2? The scene,cue and snippet control i think i understand but how to control for example a fader ? How do i assign a fader in X32 to a midi command?

[Morgan Calma]

Midi Only on v1.  I am a heavy iPad app user and until last week the iPad app did not talk to v2.  v2.02 version info does not list fader control only mutes.
Sent from my iPad

Morgan

On May 2, 2014, at 16:52, Patrick Spadrille <patrick....@gmail.com> wrote:

To the anonymous X32 user, have you figured it out how to control the X32 with midi on firmware 2? The scene,cue and snippet control i think i understand but how to control for example a fader ? How do i assign a fader in X32 to a midi command?

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[Patrick Spadrille]

You seem to be right. So what does "Rx fader" mean in the setup/remote? Is it just for Daw control?

[Morgan Calma]

I think.

But the faders are OSC controllable.  

Metric Halo is the only io i know that is fully midi controllable.  

Sent from my iPad

[micpool]

On Saturday, May 3, 2014 3:39:08 PM UTC+1, . wrote:

I think.

But the faders are OSC controllable.  

Metric Halo is the only io i know that is fully midi controllable.  

The Yamaha  01V96i has a really extensive MIDI implementation and a 16 channel IO audio interface on USB. It is also rock solid and reliable. This model is 3 years old but the underlying architecture is over 10 years old, fully proven and capable.  In many ways it's a really good companion for Qlab and many West End and touring plays in the UK use them (but usually the earlier model without the USB audio using external audio interfaces).

They lack the bling of more flashy offerings, don't have some of the more up to date features present on newer designs, and I wouldn't recommend them for musicals or band mixing but….

 if your priorities are 1) a programmable audio device that works well with Qlab    2) Full MIDI control 3) A built in  audio interface 4) Rock solid and reliable  5)  Cheap  6) Reputable brand then, then  they still have a lot to recommend them. 

Mic

[Drew Schmidt]

But the faders are OSC controllable.  

http://www.behringer.com/assets/X32_OSC_Remote_Protocol.pdf 

[Robert Ramirez]

people without x32s please do some simple research before you start recommending other products due to ignorance.. 

v2.04 behringer x32 firmware allows full volume mutes and pan control of every fader type.. Inputs outputs bus DCAs masters etc. 

http://forum.behringer.com/showthread.php?3120-Midi-implemented-in-V2-beta-that-i-have-found-so-far

i own an x32 and 01v96. prior to version 2.04 of the x32 with out full midi support of faders the x32 was still a buy worth the cost.. over the 01v96 for many reasons depending on your needs..

if your only needs are an interface then the x32 is probably not worth the money.. although it is 32 in /32 out so its debatable whether or not it's worth the investment. you are the only one that knows your i/o needs.. it workd fine with no grounding bugs or clicks or pops with normal DAWs. there appears to be issues with some users with the interface card with qlab. 

if you are like most SOUND designers you  will need to use your gear with other software other than qlab.. i love qlab.. but you don't create the cues only with that software.. you usually create the whole cue or elements in a DAW or something similar.. analog tape for instance.. and then you use qlab for playback and creative placement and final mixing for the space you are in.. 

there is obviously a bad history with behringer's reputation. it is irresponsible for employees or representives of figure53 to give advice with no research. or anecdotal examples.

as for the yamaha boards specifically 01v96.. not being useful for musicals or band mixing.. THis is also another bizarre statement. for one thing it depends on your budget and the specific musical or band.. 

it;s a ridiculous blanket statement. 

i recommend both mixing consoles. i love yamaha.. the x32 with v2.04 the midi implementation (look at the above link) is now very close to yamaha's for the volume mute and pan.. in some ways it's more organized. 

i have moved the same musical from a digico to an m7cl to an 01v96 and x32. 

i am very surprised by some of the advice given out on this thread.

it saddens and worries me.. because other threads that i have less personal experience about.. i have to ask myself how wrong is the advice that's posted..

any way i love qlab so much i never design with out it. .. . but let's get it in perspective guys.

cheers 

robert

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[Christopher Ashworth]

Hi Robert,

For what it's worth I think everything employees of Figure 53 have mentioned on the list (which is only Sam on this thread, to my memory), is a reasonable & responsible sharing of the information available to him.

Your experiences are also welcome and it's great to get more than one experience represented.

Thanks,

Chris

[Robert Ramirez]

that doesn't surprise me.

but i would imagine since he represents the company.. he might hold himself to a hire standard than someone random like me sharing what knowledge i have off the top of my head. 

i don't want to get into a back and forth and have every single figure53 employee start backing up Sam... now that the CEO has made it clear that the company at large thinks that is acceptable behaviour. i get it.. i will take the advice given out here with a grain of salt. 

thanks for creating qlab though cause it's pretty great fantastic etc. but let's not forget it has issues with hardware that other software has no problems with..  so people should be informed about both sides of the equation instead of running around saying "oh, behringer is yucky so i will blame them"

thanks for letting me know where figure53 stands, though. much appreciated. 

robert 

PS for the guy trying to get MIDI and x32/qlab working. message me off board and i will try to help as much as i can. especially after next week as i will have time to do it with my set up along side you to talk you thru it. 

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[Sam Kusnetz]

I beg your pardon.

I hold myself to a high standard, though I do not know whether it's
higher than others. And the standard is this:

If a piece of equipment has caused a problem, then I say that the
equipment has been known to cause problems.

You were quite right to call me out on not providing a concrete example
of the problems I knew about, although I did not appreciate the tone in
which you did it. But you were right, and I came back a little while
later with a reference to the conversation we had with a customer about
his X32.

The conclusion I reached, drawing on my twenty or so years of experience
in professional theater, is that the X32 is not a 100% reliable,
trouble-free piece of equipment. There is a known, verifiable issue with
using the USB/FireWire card to connect to a computer. Morgan
corroborated this:

> when using many of its "extra" they seem to have some issues. Most of which seem to be reported by behringer (from dealing with tech support) as grounding isses. Of note to qlab would be the orginal interface card xuf which has both FireWire and USB. Has this grounding problem. Caused me a major headache for one production. It would work fine for many of the shows then.... Just stop.

Apparently Behringer themselves have confirmed that there is a grounding
problem with the USB/FireWire card. Is that irresponsible and reckless
of them?

My chief interest and sole motivation is for QLab users to have smooth,
trouble free shows. If I know that a particular piece of equipment is
more likely to cause trouble, then I consider it irresponsible of me not
to share that information.

I welcome any and all feedback on this approach, and I welcome data like
Morgan's which helps fill in the details of problems that have been had.

Cheerio
Sam

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[micpool]

On Saturday, May 3, 2014 5:38:10 PM UTC+1, Rob Ram wrote:

 but let's get it in perspective guys.

Indeed….

Thanks for pointing out that as of firmware 2.04 the behringer X32 has a full implementation. It's telling though that the link you post links to a thread that begins "Ok friends. Behringer couldnt provide this to me, despite me asking,". That's presumably is because that firmware only came out of beta on April 25th

Perhaps, what you wanted to say was something along the lines of…...

The Firmware for the Behringer was updated to  V2.04 on April 25th and  adds this functionality but currently is not documented on the Behringer site. This link is what a user has found regarding the MIDI implementation….

I am not affiliated in any way with figure53  and reserve the right to express any reasonable personal opinion on mailing lists. " I wouldn't recommend them for musicals or band mixing" is just  a statement of a fact. I am sure that  on a whole range of equipment choices your personal recommendations would differ from mine. I don't think that is surprising, and it probably shouldn't be the trigger for labelling my opinions bizarre and ridiculous.

Mic

[Robert Ramirez]

you should also welcome information of it working, not just information that backs up your point. 

look, i get it .. you don't respect behringer. 

can we not do the whole.. i've been designing longer than you encoded ergo i must be right and you're wrong.. 20 years is a swell amount of time.. but behringer's x32 has been around about 1.5 years. so.. the extra 18 years doesnt really help you much regarding info in this matter.

i'm sorta disappointed that you guys have time to come on here to say.. we're right (essentially robert is wrong because sam has morgan's experience as an example) but you don't have the time to really research the answer thoroughly. 

I'm here to tell you it works fine with about 5 DAWs i have personally tested it with and with QLAB it worked fine for a 2 week run. i'll see if qlab has a problem with it  by doing more research of my own due to Morgan's experience. 

it's weird that i have taken the time to do research to tell the Original Poster the answer to his actual question.. about MIDI control.

if the Original Poster had been asking.. why doesnt my x32 work with QLAB as an interface.. or i consistently get popping or clicks.. please help me whats going on ?!?!?! 

then you're response would have been somewhat appropriate. though still here-say essentially..

lastly, i also don't appreciate your tone or the fact that my experience with qlab and the x32 as an interface is not registering with you,  that it could be an issue with qlab or the specific x32 morgan is using... i also find it really amazing that you rather ignore the fact that it works with MANY DAWs.. with out hiccups... instead of taking this to mean that it might be at the very least a combination of Qlab with an X32..  but i am not going to give out ill informed or slanted advice because someone didnt talk pretty to me. 

the Original Poster wasn't trying to trouble shoot a grounding issue.

here's an analogy: 

Hello , 

OP: i am going to buy a Toyota but i am doing research on how to install your Company's after market stereo instead of the factory Toyota stereo. Is this possible? i can't find info on how it would work.

 you: even though Toyota's have a pretty track record , which is surprising (because back in the 70's people used to say buy American not Japanese cars because they  have a bad reputation.) this seems like a good time to mention that Toyotas are not necessarily a trouble free product.. i have no information on hand ..

your update: i have an email from morgan that says his Toyota was recalled because of the ignition switch.

me: hey OP go to this website for the info to hook up this company's stereo to your toyota.

thats the gist of it. 

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[Robert Ramirez]

that's my whole point mic

it's not a fact as you say.. it's your opinion..

if you don't like the 01v or x32 for mixing musicals or bands.. it doesnt make it a fact.. 

so i stated my opinion as well after you.. it is very possible to run a musical and band with an 01v96. 

"bizarre" may have been hyperbolic but the fact is.. that this person already bought the x32..

so deviating from the OP is fruitless. 

i rather focus on what post is actually answering his question.. 

i like using "creepy' or "bizarre" at times it doesn't mean i think you are a zombie or weirdo. 

i just tend to like using certain words. 

i absolutely disagree with your opinion .. in the same way that i would have to talk thru with old school designers , the benefits of digital consoles use in theatre production over an analog console. but i rather get back to the OP topic. 

you can word it how ever you like. 

i answered the question asked.. and i don't really feel like having to word it in terms you prefer because i dont know you. 

i know most humans understand what i wrote the way i worded it. 

cheers

robert

[micpool]

On Saturday, May 3, 2014 7:03:25 PM UTC+1, Rob Ram wrote:

that's my whole point mic

it's not a fact as you say.. it's your opinion..

You misunderstand. 

 "I (micpool)  wouldn't recommend an 01V96 for musicals or band mixing" is a fact 

If i had written "I don't think an 01V96 is suitable for mixing musicals or band mixing" that would have been an opinion

It also seems to be an opinion that, in addition to finding the MIDI implementation of the x32, lacking, you to some extent share… or at least did a few weeks ago.

I think it was  your post on March 25  that put it in my head that an 01V96 was a better option for fader automation through MIDI. You also said you had chosen the x32 over the 01V96 for band mixing on that show.

In your post in the thread Qlab and Behringer X32/Midas M32 you wrote.

I do all my Mic Cues on M7CL and/or 01v96 via Qlab2 Midi CC as well.. 
i bought an x32 and missed this function so i ended up using an 01v sidecar for vocals and the x32 for the vox submix and band/effects. 
the new v2.0 firmware should fix this.. i will  install as soon as at least x32-edit works with the new firmware.. the ipad app is apparently months away from working with firmware v2 .. x32 edit for mac/pc/linux is supposed to be upgraded in about a week or 2.. 

Now that the firmware update and the new x-32 edit has been released I am sure that both Patrick and Morgan will be able to investigate the new functionality that they weren't aware of and hopefully will be able to implement their requirements successfully,  and you will no longer need to use you 01V96 as a sidecar just to get MIDI fader control.

Mic

 

[Robert Ramirez]

Yes you're right.. i didn't misunderstand but i was unclear.. 

the fact that you micpool wouldn't recommend the console is a fact about your opinion (it shouldn't be taken as a fact that someone else who actually knows how to use the 01v96 couldnt mix a musical or band on it) which since we are flinging opinions around ... in my opinion saying it isnt suitable is bizarre and/or ill-informed. if you are designing for broadway/west end.. (someone here was throwing that info out there. it may have been you).. then yes .. i would agree it probably wouldn't suffice. but neither would a Mackie 32x8 or a DJ mixer .. since we are just throwing out random information that has nothing to do with the OP.

I have no idea what you are talking about.. "also seems to be an opinion" if that was your attempt at sarcasm .. give it another shot (i welcome it and love sarcasm) 

but as you quoted: I do all my Mic Cues on M7CL and/or 01v96 via Qlab2 Midi CC as well.. 

v2 of qlab doesn't do OSC. and you left out the more important bit.::

i can tell you that with qlab v3 .. the OSC commands are very straight forward to control most command like volume fader or panning.. it also lets you control all parameters practically. one great thing is that with out any special settings on the x32 board you can not only access volume/pan on all 32 input channels but also DCAs /subs/etc..

i figured it out in about 10 mins.. and all you need is the OSC chart to know what command to send via the OSC cue in qlab. 

i ended up not using qlab3 for that show as it was still a bit buggy at v3.01. but the next show i do with qlab3 whatever current version is like 3.16, i will be using OSC commands mostly because it can automate practically every parameter.

for shows at a theatre with qlab 2 i will use the new MIDI implementation in the x32. either way.. the digital stage boxes.. all the features etc.. the x32 is definitely worth it.. perhaps the m32 is too.. looks great. more expensive practically identical feature set and software.. but the preamps and hardware faders may justify the price bump. 

i'll let you know how it goes in a few weeks.

... so i don't see how  an opinion (that is as outdated as analog consoles are better) about the MIDI control being lacking at the time, that has been remedied before Patrick even gets his hands on his x32, is even relevant.

but feel free to quote  me to myself as much as you like. i love it. 

yes, i did realize that  and plan on using the MIDI control on shows where the x32 is at a theatre with qlab2 (due to qlab3 being sort of a resource hungry app needing faster macs. not all theatres can afford it.. the new Mac that is, QLAB has a great rental plan for small venues) ... as is stated in the part you neglected to quote.

and again i want to reiterate .. i love the product immensely. im not crazy about how the advice is being doled out. 

at the very least we shouldn't deviate from the OP so much .. so "opinions" about stuff not relevant to the OP don't get people all saddy-faced about someone's tone and such.. not to mention the OP will actually get their questions answered more efficiently and succinctly, etc etc etc etc etc etc. 

i don't see how anyone could disagree with that. but im sure someone will have a difference of opinion. 

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[micpool]

Anyway, back to the thread: Controlling X32 with MIDI.

In the MIDI cue it's straightforward to move a fader say from 0 to -15 in 15secs using a cc message.  How do you achieve the same thing using the OSC cue?

Mic

[Sam Kusnetz]

micpool wrote:
> In the MIDI cue it's straightforward to move a fader say from 0 to -15
> in 15secs using a cc message. How do you achieve the same thing using
> the OSC cue?
Mic

At the moment there is no way to do this with OSC in QLab. Fading OSC
values is in our plans, and will hopefully make an appearance soon.

[Robert Ramirez]

yea that would be nice. 

to both staying on point with the thread 

and fading OSC. guess i will stick with using midi cues. until they figure that out at figure53

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[micpool]

That's what I thought. So at the moment if you want to use Qlab to move a fader or any other control over time you need to use MIDI. 

So, in relation to this thread OSC is largely irrelevant, unless all you want to do is send snapshots of control positions for instant recall which I don't think was Patrick's requirement.

Mic

[Patrick Spadrille]

Thanks a lot for these informations. It's great news that fader control using midi is now possible with the X32. I understand that OSC is pretty powerful but right now I don't know anything about it. But above all with the new X32's snippet feature, it seems that have midi cues to recall the snippets is all I need and a much easier way to proceed. The only thing lacking with the snippet method is fader change over time. And since Qlab3 does't offer it right now over OSC, there is still midi which I at least have some experience with. I will try that as soon as i receive my X32 Producer.

[Robert Ramirez]

good luck buddy

you are going to love it.. i can practically guarantee.

On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Patrick Spadrille <patrick....@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks a lot for these informations. It's great news that fader control using midi is now possible with the X32. I understand that OSC is pretty powerful but right now I don't know anything about it. But above all with the new X32's snippet feature, it seems that have midi cues to recall the snippets is all I need and a much easier way to proceed. The only thing lacking with the snippet method is fader change over time. And since Qlab3 does't offer it right now over OSC, there is still midi which I at least have some experience with. I will try that as soon as i receive my X32 Producer.

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