changing nudge value and nudging in protools

[HYP]

Hello i just started using protools  got must of it down but Im trying to learn how to change nudge value and nudge selected tracks or pieces of a track can anyone point me to a post to help me with this issue thanks

[Steve Sparrow]

Hi. 

 This is from Slau.

To change the nudge value, use Option-Command- plus or minus. The range of values does not wrap   up so you can be certain what value you've selected by keeping in mind that the default nudge values are:

one millisecond, ten milliseconds, one hundred milliseconds, five hundred milliseconds and one second. The values change when using bars and beats.

There is a lot more to nudging, but this may get you started. 

On 7 Jun 2016, at 4:13 PM, HYP <blinds...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello i just started using protools  got must of it down but Im trying to learn how to change nudge value and nudge selected tracks or pieces of a track can anyone point me to a post to help me with this issue thanks

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[HYP Tha Don]

appreciate it thanks I'm going to try it out cause when I was nudging
it would slide the clip far either way

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[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

OK, Slau covered this about 2 weeks ago, as I had the same question.

 

Let me see if I can remember this.  This is actually good, as it'll reenforce what he tought me.  Let's see what I retained.

 

First off, you need to set your nudge value.  To do this, use the numpad plus and minus keys.  Plus will increase your nudge value, while minus will obviously decrease it.

 

Another way you could do this, though not nearly as convenient is to go into the edit window.  There should be a cluster in here you can interact with then set it manually.  Again, that way probably isn't recommended though, as it's just easier to use your plus and minus keys on your numpad.  I did however want to point out that this is another method, just so you'd know.

 

Once your nudge value is correctly set, you need to make the bit of audio you wish to nudge into its own clip/region.  This is the part where I got stuck before.  If you don't do this part, it won't work.

 

In your track list table, make sure that the tracks you want to be menipulating through this nudge are selected, first and foremost.  Once done, move to the beginning of the audio that you need to nudge.  Then, press command+E to split the region at that point.

 

Now, move to the end point of the audio you need to nudge forward or backward.  Then, do the same thing.  Press command+E again to split the region.  So, basically, in a nutshell, what you've done up to this point is you've split that area off into its own region, if that makes sense.  The reason you did this twice is because you are isolating that area of audio into its own section, if you will.  you had to make a boundery though.  This is why the first command+E split at the beginning of the audio to be nudged.  The second command+E split again at the end of the audio.

 

The best way I could explain this is, think about having a sheet of paper with a line drawn horizontally all the way across the sheet of paper.  Halfway across the paper, you have a small little circle.  You're wanting to get that circle as a sheet of paper all by itself.  So, how would you do that?  Well?  You'd have to cut with your scissors two times wouldn't you?  Once right on the left side of the circle, and again once right on the right side of the circle.  That's essentially what you're doing here.  Think of the audio you're wanting to nudge as that little circle.  So you have to split it on both sides.

 

Anyway, after you do the command+E to split at the end of the audio, you now need to move to the previous region.  The reason is because right now, you are positioned right at the end of the audio you want to nudge, most likely.  therefore, you're out of bounds of that region we just isolated.  So, next, press ctrl+Tab.  This will move you to the previous region mark.  Now, what I! like to do, just to be on the safe side is, I like to move just a tad into the actual region itself.  This way I know that I'm located within the region, and that nothing willy milly is going to happen when I do this.  So, I'd then press your numpad plus key one time.  That's all it'll take.  Just hit it one time.  You just need to be sure that you're in the region.

 

Now, select that current region.  To do that, press shift+Tab.

 

Now, hopefully, if you did this correctly, you should be able to hit the space bar to play, and only hear that bit of audio that you need nudged.  If that didn't work, then go try again.  Now that you have that region selected, you're ready to actually nudge.  So, now, press your numpad plus to move it forward, or numpad minus to move it back.  Keep going until you get it lined up where it needs to be.

 

HTH.

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[Slau Halatyn]

Just two corrections to the previous message:

To cycle through  the nudge values, use Option-Command with the plus or minus keys on the num pad. Pressing the plus and minus keys alone (without any modifiers) will do one of two things: if a clip is selected, it'll nudge the clip and, if no clip is selected, it'll nudge the insertion point.

Also, Control-Tab is not the shortcut for moving to the previous clip boundary. Control-Tab will select the next clip. To move to the previous clip boundary, use Option-Tab. In this case, assuming you've just split the file and need to select to the previous boundary, you can add Shift to the Option-Tab and that will select to the previous boundary, thus selecting the clip.

HTH,

Slau

[Joy Bausch]

Hey Slau, 

first of all, thanks for clarifying. Now, here's something I've been thinking about, in regard to the shortcuts you mentioned:

besides the ctrl-tab: select next region, there obviously also is: ctrl-option-tab: select previous region. This shortcuts is not so usable for us, since ctrl-option are the VoiceOver-keys. Here's the question: is it possible to define which set of those keys are used for VO? In other words, could one specify that only ctrl-option on the right side of spacebar act as VO-keys?

Joy

 

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[Matt Diemert]

Hello, the modifier to select is actually shift not control, so as far as that goes there is not a conflict. So shift tab and shift option tab. 

Sent from my iPhone

[Joy Bausch]

Hi, 

that's another pair of shortcuts. I'm talking about the one using control.

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[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Joy,

I don't think there's any way of changing Control and Option as it relates to VoiceOver. However, you can still use Control-Option-Tab by passing through the shortcut. First, press Control-Option-Tab once to pass through the next shortcut and simply type whatever shortcut you wish. Incidentally, in this particular case, it's the exact same shortcut. So, in other words, pressing control-Option-Tab twice selects the previous clip.

HTH,

Slau

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[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Matt,

If you're on a clip boundary, yes, all that's needed is the Shift modifier but, if you're in the middle of a clip or between clips, Control-Tab moves to and selects the next clip in the timeline and adding Option will do the same moving earlier in the timeline.

Cheers,

Slau

[Joy Bausch]

Hey Slau,

aight, will keep on working that way then. *smile* Thanks anyways, mate, appreciate it.

Joy

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[Sean A. Cummins]

FYI, the voiceover modifier keys can be changed under voiceover settings using the.VO Plus F8 to enter voiceover settings. It can be changed to using the caps lock key.

Take care,

Sean

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So forgive my brevity!

[Joy Bausch]

Sean,

I can't find that parameter in the VO settings. Would you mind pointing me to the right category?

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[TL]

Hi, you need to be running El Capitan to have that option.

 

Terry

 

 

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[Sean A. Cummins]

I'm currently on the road, but if someone else doesn't jump in with the answer, I will look when I return to my studio.

[Joy Bausch]

Thanks Terry.

Running Yosemite here, so no wonder i was not finding it. lol

Cheers

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[Slau Halatyn]

Ah, never saw that as I'm also on Yosemite :) Good to know. Cheers all,

Slau

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Slau, you are totally right.  I don't know where I got ctrl+Tab from.  Whoops?

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Joy, not really that I know of, but what you could do is do ctrl+option+tab, or in other words, VO+Tab, which is the pass key through.  That will ignore the next key press.  Then, you could follow that with what ever command.  So, say you were trying to actually pass ctrl+Option+tab through to ProTools.  You could do VO+Tab to ignore next key press.  Thehn, do ctrl+option+tab again.  It's a little annoying, but it does definitely work.

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[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Matt,

 

I know you said if I ever wrote you privately about ProTools, to send you a quick note on list as well just to make sure you know I've written you.

 

Anyway, please check your mail, as I wrote you privately.

 

Sorry guys.

 

Chris.

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

What about this?

 

Could he make a ProTools activity in the Voiceover Utility which is tied to protools.app, then simply set in the activity for him to use the capslock key as a Voiceover modifier instead of control+option?  I get that this only works on El Capitan, but if that's what he's running, it may be worth looking at.

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[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Yeah, I realized that right after I sent that last message, then felt like a total idiot!

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[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Joy, are you using El Capitan, or something older?  That option didn't come into the picture until OSX 10.11.

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[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Aa, that would explain it.

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