LAND SCAM - Gilbert Estates - Bluebell / Collingham / Lakeview and others owned by mr Baron deshuear

[tony green]

Hi another group (now totaling over 50 people)  have been paid out by Baron Deschuer the owner of the land scam companies, they also threaten to take him to court. They got help from a ex sales person who worked for gilbert estates (gilbert estates is also linked to the land scam).

The owners live in a multi million pound estate called Wilderwick House, in Dormansland, I think the house is on 150 acres.  Some could say that land scams pay.

Plot owners should all rally asap, as rumour has it that the owners are thinking of leaving the UK. Hurry....................

[fw]

Hi, I bought 4 plots from gilbert estates, please advice what to do to get my money back

[kbmail1995]

On Tuesday, 22 October 2013 22:00:44 UTC+1, will wrote:

Hi

We are getting together a group of investors who have been conned by Baron Deschaur  in the form of Glenridge Estates, Ludgershall ( Buckinghamshire).

We are speaking with solicitors, to take joint legal action.

If you have bought a plot a Ludgershal, or know anyone who has, please get in touch and join us.

Will

[kbmail1995]

My friend and I bought some plots from Bluebell and they have forfeited on their promises. I would be interested in the prospect of taking these people to court so we can get our money back

Please contact me and let me know if anyone is interested in pursuing this matter

[kbmail1995]

My friend and I bought some plots from Bluebell and they have forfeited on their promises. I would be interested in the prospect of taking these people to court so we can get our money back

Please contact me and let me know if anyone is interested in pursuing this matter

Best regards

On Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:21:46 UTC+1, tony green wrote:

[Plot 123]

Any plot owners of the Tewin Grove site in Hertfordshire, please come and join our group. We are pursuing the possibility for planning first and litigation second. You can view our group information page here;

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tewin-grove-plot-owners-group

On Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:21:46 UTC+1, tony green wrote:

[kbmail1995]

 

I have applied to join this group and I am waiting for a response

[Plot 123]

There have been quite a few comments posted on these boards suggesting that investors have (or should start) started legal proceedings against the companies and individuals that sold them the land in the first place. However, where are the follow up posts to say that any of them actually got their money back or got the thing off the ground in the first place?

Getting a judgement in court is one thing, getting your money back is another matter altogether. Do people not understand just how expensive it is to fund such a legal action?  Asking people with failed investments to pay up several thousand pounds more towards the cost of instigating legal action is never going to happen.

If you own the land then why not try and get planning on it? Government and local authority policies towards planning issues are now far more flexible and conducive to development than they were ten years ago. It does take some effort and a little cash to get started, but a tiny fraction of the costs to start a legal action.

IMO there are too people wasting their time moaning about the situation they have got themselves into. they should stop moaning and do something about it! 

Alternative? Sit back and wait until someone else (other than them obviously) actually gets off their backside and does something!

There are too many moaners and not enough doers!

Thats my rant for the day.

Keith Pierce

Tewin Grove Plot Owners Group

On Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:21:46 UTC+1, tony green wrote:

[Sean]

Hi Will,

Have got 3 owners with 5 plots sold by Broomfield Developments/Glenridge Estates in Chelmsford. Any chance of joining you guys?

Thanks

On Tuesday, 22 October 2013 22:00:44 UTC+1, will wrote:

Hi

We are getting together a group of investors who have been conned by Baron Deschaur  in the form of Glenridge Estates, Ludgershall ( Buckinghamshire).

We are speaking with solicitors, to take joint legal action.

If you have bought a plot a Ludgershal, or know anyone who has, please get in touch and join us.

Will

On Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:21:46 AM UTC+1, tony green wrote:

[cath...@googlemail.com]

Hi I have just joined and am on twitter @collinghamland if you want to join me? Thanks

[Oumeima]

Hi Tony, Could you give us more clue on how to get our money back from Baron Deshcuer, , I have bought 3 plots from him, his company is still asking for maintenance fees my mobile is 0785190564

On Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:21:46 UTC+1, tony green wrote:

[Farthing]

Hi Tony,

I have some plots and have been trying to get hold of Glenridge with little success.  I would like to join the group.  Can you please send me your details.

Many Thanks

B

On Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:21:46 UTC+1, tony green wrote:

[Hassan Mahmood]

Hi Tony

Pls send me group details I also wish to join the group but my case is slightly different so like to discus. If you can send me mobile number pls

Regards

Hassan 

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[Plot 123]

LAST CHANCE TO JOIN LEGAL ACTION.
If you own a plot of land at the Tewin Grove site in Hertfordshire, please contact me immediately.
Our group currently represents close to 100 plot owners and we are in the final stages of commrncing legal action against Warrengate and Mr Deschauer in seeking the return of our money.
Unfortunately we can only help and advise plot owners of this particular scheme so please do not contact us for any of Mr Deschauers other land projects.
Keith Pierce
Chairman
Tewin Grove Limited
tewin...@outlook.com

[APerez]

Do you this for a fact?

On Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:21:46 UTC+1, tony green wrote:

[APerez]

I meant...do you *know* what you said about the settlement group is factual?

[APerez]

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/2438883

[seg...@gmail.com]

I bought a plot in Bluebell land. I was invited to join groups for legal action in 2001, but could not. Can any one please update me about on gong Groups or any successes. Terracorps ltd Barons Dschauer s company is threatening legal action against me for non payment of convenant charges on the (sham) land. Are people still paying their yearly land rent? Can somebody please update me or advise a solicitor who has a group going.

thanks
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On Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:21:UTC+1, tony gree

[ilya...@gmail.com]

Hi Will, I came across this post and am also a victim of Baron's land scam in Ludgershal. I am contesting his covenant charges court clam against me. Have you managed to take Baron to court or had any success against this crook?

Can you also advise me or put me in touch with anyone who can help?

Thanks

Ilyas

On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 at 10:00:44 PM UTC+1, will wrote:

Hi

We are getting together a group of investors who have been conned by Baron Deschaur  in the form of Glenridge Estates, Ludgershall ( Buckinghamshire).

We are speaking with solicitors, to take joint legal action.

If you have bought a plot a Ludgershal, or know anyone who has, please get in touch and join us.

Will

On Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:21:46 AM UTC+1, tony green wrote:

[ilya...@gmail.com]

Hello, I also bought a plot at Ludgershall Bucks and have had a letter threatening legal action for covenant charges unpaid. Have you managed to successfully challenge that crooked Baron? I'm looking for groups and legal support but don't know who to contact. If you can advise or help then please let me know. My email is ilya...@gmail.com

Thanks

[Maz]

Hi there. It sounds like everyone that hasn't kept up with the covenant charge, is currently in the same boat. He has batch-processed them all online via small claim. I intend to defend and counter claim. Not sure of chances of success but so far I have had very little progress with group efforts, and legal professionals seem to want my money before telling me what they actually intend to do. I am more than happy to have a chat about things if would help to hear another friendly voice - please email me and will call you. 

What i keep reminding myself is that in 2030 the covenant charge which started at £130 will be £522.68 ....

[Keith Pierce]

It certainly seems that Mr Deschauer is now actively trying to frighten people into paying the covenant charges at all of his projects.  If enough plot owners have stopped paying and are withholding their covenant charge payments, then that would likely force him into action.

 

Anyone receiving a demand for payment of the covenant charge should write back to the sender by recorded delivery post and request mediation to settle the dispute, which they are required to offer. At that mediation (usually conducted over the phone) you will get the chance to put your case and request a reduced amount.  If an agreement cannot be reached, then you would have it on record that you tried.

 

Keep trying to put groups together for your different land sites, it only takes a few dedicated people to get things moving and then things start to snowball.

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[Sandeep Tanday]

Hello, I also purchased a land at collingham from this Baron Deschauer, I have recently received a tribunal court letter stating I am required to pay a FAKE company in America for land maintenance charges, supposedly there are roads and pipe works being carried out on these plots which require yearly payments, after carrying out some research I found that the said company collecting payments does not exist at the address provided, nor has it ever existed there. I also called up the original property management that sold me the land and asked them regarding this maintenance charge at which point they replied they have no clue what I am talking about and that they have not taken any payments nor asked for any.

I believe this Baron Deschauer has created dummy corporations/buisnesses to scam people out of their money further by charging maintainance for something that is not being carried out.

I am looking for any kind of help or advice regarding this tribunal court letter and any information on the maintenance charges, please get in touch with me by email: san...@hotmail.co.uk

[Keith Pierce]

Sandeep,

Where did you buy your pot of land?

In which location?

 

From: Sandeep Tanday
Sent: 03 October 2017 18:14
To: Plot Owners

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[Izaak]

Hi Sandeep,

Did you get anywhere with court tribunal hearings?

I have had similar letters and i'm seeking legal advise on how to proceed. 

Any advise would be appreciated.

[Izaak]

Hi, I purchased a plot and I'm currently being taken to small claims court for not paying the covenant charges. 

Any help on how to proceed?

[Keith Pierce]

TAKE PROFFESSIONAL LEGAL ADVICE NOW OR YOU RISK LOOSING YOUR LAND.

Do not ignore the small claims court papers, reply to them immediately asking for mediation. At that mediation process demand a reduced fee in line with, and proportional to, what the actual and true cost of maintaining the land is. Ask to see paid invoices showing the genuine cost of maintaining the land. You can then divide up and calculate what your share of that would be, based on how many plot owners there are and how big your plot is in size.

 

From: Izaak
Sent: 18 October 2017 16:09
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[jony]

Guys i will be brief, do not listen to anyone who says pay anything, Baron Deschauer has been forced into insolvency on two of his companies by the Secretary of state, pls search his name followed by "insolvency" you will see that both Broomfield and Lakeview are finished. I am doing all i can to make sure the rest of his companies go the same way and will update you here. Baron knows his days are numbered and is trying to eek out any penny he can before he is completely closed down. The sites will never get planning, but at least you can stop paying charges. if anyone has a small claim letter, i suggest responding saying 2 things 1. the contract included finance and the company selling you the land was not licensed, 2. you are being asked to pay to maintain roads that do not exist, in law a positive covenant, involves a burden and benefit, as there are no roads you cannot benefit, so you should not have the burden. just say you are happy to lose the right to use roads( that will never exist) in return for the company, not to enforce the covenant. we have land at Bluebell and this was my response;

As stated in our original letter to the court we visited the site on October 1^st this year and complained about the condition of the access road “Hill road”, Terracorp have made it clear on page 4 of their defence that Hill Road is not owned by them nor forms part of the positive covenant. There are therefore no roads , paths , drive tracks,  access ways and  verges to maintain, or that have been maintained,  the whole site is one big field used to cultivate hay. It is highly unlikely there will ever be any roads allowed on this site, it is within the green belt and designated an area of outstanding beauty and as such will never have the ability to use our benefit. It follows that Terracorp have not had any costs.

In Rhone v Stephens Lord Templeman said the following “ In Halsall v Brizell the defendant could, at least in theory, choose between enjoying the right and paying his proportion of the cost or alternatively giving up the right and saving his money.”  We have not had our right and it is highly unlikely we ever will. In order to save costs and the Courts time, we are happy to give up our benefit 10.(B) in return for Terracorp accepting that 10.(A) e is no longer enforceable.

i am in touch with the insolvency service about all Barons companies, not by mail i had a call with an investigator this week, the small claims process takes some time, hopefully we can close all cases once the Secretary of State gets involved, it may be we all need to contact them, i will be back if that is the case. i have spent much time on this man, he is finished, i will be back please be patient.

[APerez]

Deschauer has seen off many attempts to close him down.  He's probably now winding down anyway.

Your endeavors are coming too late to be meaningful.   

[ss007]

Hi Tony 

Any thoughts of getting the media involved as clearly there are enough scammed people to make this a serious issue. Only if the attention of the media will help our case and I gather it will. 

I know Daily Mail ran an article about this some time ago.  

More than happy to take the lead on this.

Sooraj

[ss007]

Hi Jony

Latest on GOV webs

Lakeview Developments Limited (company number 05263760) is pleased to announce that it has agreed terms with the Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (formerly Business, Innovation and Skills) (the Secretary of State) to compromise the petition presented by the Secretary of State for the compulsory winding up of the company on public interest grounds pursuant to Section 124a of the Insolvency Act 1986 (the Petition). The petition has been dismissed as part of Comprehensive Terms of Settlement (terms of settlement) which include that the company was to be placed in to Creditors’ Voluntary Liquidation and undertakings to the Court and conditions have been agreed between the company and the Secretary of State which are considered, on balance to be in the public interest.

The Secretary of State had contended in the petition that the Company had:

• carried on business in an objectionable manner and alleged that the company had made misleading statements concerning the prospects of obtaining planning permission inducing the purchase of plots of land that had no prospect of gaining planning permission. The Secretary of State had also contended that the subdivision of the original site into numerous plots which were subsequently sold as plots, primarily to members of the public, has negatively impacted on a) the likelihood that there could be a development of the site or of individual plots and b) planning permission being granted which has, in the Secretary of State’s opinion, resulted in the plots being near valueless
• carried on business without a Consumer Credit Act (CCA) licence when one was required

The company strenuously denied (and continues to deny) the alleged wrongdoing. Specifically:

• the company denied having made misleading statements which allegation the company said was unsupported by any documentary evidence and were contrary to the contracts signed by purchasers of the plots of land and the sub-division was both obvious and may have enhanced the prospects for planning permission for particular plots
• that it did not provide credit which required a CCA licence

The company regrets if any purchaser of a plot considers they were misled into purchasing a plot.

Terms of settlement have been agreed to compromise the petition and has been agreed by the company and the Secretary of State which included that the company was placed into Creditors’ Voluntary Liquidation with undertakings being given by the company, its director, Mr Baron Alexander Deschauer, and other associated companies to prevent the future sales being conducted in the manner which the Secretary of State has complained of. The terms of settlement also sets out how plot purchasers will be treated in the liquidation and includes an undertaking from the director of the company who will make a voluntary contribution to the company.

Plot purchasers can contact the Joint Liquidators, Mark Newman and Vincent John Green, for further information at CCW Recovery Solutions, 4 Mount Ephraim Road, Tunbridge Wells, Kent, TN1 1EE. The Secretary of State has no reason to consider that Mr Newman and Mr Green are other than proper and appropriate persons to act as liquidators.

On Monday, 23 October 2017 12:42:06 UTC+1, jony wrote:

[Mustafa Feroze]

Dear Ilya,

What was the outcome of the court hearing re covenant charges ? I have a court hearing on 11th January. Can you give me a few points that I should raise in my defence ?

I take this opportunity to wish you a very happy 2018 and look forward to hearing from you .

With kind regards

Mustafa Feroze

[Mustafa Feroze]

Dear Maz,

What was the outcome f the court hearing ? I have just joined the group, I was completely unaware of its existence . I am contesting his claim for covenance charges and the hearing is scheduled for 11th January. Is there any point you want me raise in my defense in the court ?  

I take this opportunity to wish you a very happy 2018 and look forward to hearing from you.

With kind regards

Mustafa Feroze

[Mustafa Feroze]

Dear Jony,

What was the outcome f the court hearing ? I have just joined the group, I was completely unaware of its existence . I am contesting his claim for covenance charges and the hearing is scheduled for 11th January. Is there any point you want me raise in my defense in the court ?  

I take this opportunity to wish you a very happy 2018 and look forward to hearing from you.

With kind regards

Mustafa Feroze

On Monday, 23 October 2017 12:42:06 UTC+1, jony wrote:

[Smiley]

Hi,

I am also a victim and have a court session at the end of this month re covenant changes.

Please, it’s my interest to know if anyone has been successful and how?

Based on the number of people so far affected, it will be worth the while to form an association and get one legal team to defend the team.

Thanks for your opinions and suggestions.

Emmanuel 

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[p_ing...@hotmail.com]

I am also a victim of Lakeview a developments ltd. Unfortunately I didn’t realise until I finished all my payments which is 28k for a plot of land.

I also paid all the covenant charges up to date. Recently Terracorp has sent me covenant charge release offer of £1500, which again is another company run by Baron A Deschauer. He knows what he is doing and he is trying to get every penny from innocent people like us.

I think we should all get together and take this matter to court with lawyer and make him pay back all the money we have paid and cancel this covenant charge for ever.

[C]

I completely agree. My parents are also victims. I'd be interested in chipping money together for a legal team to help us get our money back too. 

Like "p_ing...@hotmail.com" I've also received the letter from Terracorp has about covenant charge release offer of £1500. The cheek of these people! 

To my understanding, the land is of zero value right? Please correct me if i'm wrong. 

Thanks

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[bharath gowda]

Hi, 

Surely they can’t charged if you didn’t sign up for maintenance.

I’m in a different situation as hambrook-greenstock went bust officially (liquidation). So no one maintaining the plots. Unless local council starts charging, I am expecting no charges. But the money gone is gone. I know I will never get it back. 

Kind Regards,

Bharath.

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[Keith Pierce]

There are many cases going through the courts now which should be resolved by the end of January, after which I expect Mr Deschauer to disappear rather quickly.

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[Ale]

Hi Jony,

I hope you are well.

I was wondering if there has been any progress in this? We have received updates that the Secretary of State is now involved with the insolvency of Lakeview. We purchased land form Lakeview some 10 years ago and are also trying to dispute covenant charges by TerraCorp Ltd. It seems to be a similar experience to many in this group.

Thanks for your advice.

On Monday, 23 October 2017 12:42:06 UTC+1, jony wrote:

[C]

Hi All, 

We have also been scammed by the same scumbag, would appreciate any updates. My fear is that Mr Deschauer would disappear before these cases are resolved. Or that somehow he personally is not responsible. 

Best of luck everyone 

[eddy...@hotmail.com]

Hello, I bought two plots of Bluebell land, managed to off load one back to the company after paying for two years. So now I have just one half an acre of worthless pile,

I have received a bill of £1500 from Terra what ever company. pls let us join together to deal with this matter. I thought I was going to leave the land to my Children ,I did not realize it will be worthless to them. My blood pressure has risen since reading all these posts.

I can be reached on 07535641864

Thanks

edward

[Mustafa Feroze]

YES .... I fought this thugs claim and won . He filed claim against me in a court somewhere near London and took judgement against me in absentia. I never received a court summon or copy of the judgment. He then took a high court order and bailiff came to my house . I was shocked to see the bailiff, I had to pay him £5000 . I appealed against the judgment and had court hearing on 11th January. I am delighted to inform you that the previous judgment was set aside . Court has ordered repayment of all charges back to me.

You must contest the claim, you will win.

Mustafa

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[Mustafa Feroze]

Hi,

I fought his claim and won. Please contact me , 

[Mustafa Feroze]

I fought this thug's claim and won ... my hearing was last Thursday 11th Jan. You may contact me for details, you may use my arguments for defence.

Mustafa

[Mustafa Feroze]

Jony,

Just want to let you know that I won the case , this bastard had filed a claim for covenant charges in a county court somewhere near London. He sent the claim to my old address where I lived in 2005. Court summons were sent to the same address which I never received. Court ordered against me in absentia . He then went to high court, got order against me for £5000 . Bailiff came to my house with court orders to collect the money. I am a law abiding citizen and have never committed even a parking offence. In fear , I had to pay the money on 22nd December 2017. That was the first time I learned about the claim . I applied to the high court for a stay order and set aside judgement. The court gave stay order and date for  hearing that was on the 11th Jan ( last Thursday)  . I represented myself, made a convincing presentation . This thug was there as claimant. You may not be aware that he himself is a property lawyer . I am delighted to tell you that the court has set aside the previous judgment  and have passed order in my favor.  I suggest everyone must fight their case. I can provide you details of the arguments that I used in my defense  if you need.  

He is a very rich man . I strongly suspect he bribed government lawyer in the Secretary of state's case against him . If someone gives £5 out of 100 to a prosecution lawyer for them to rescind from their case ( and they do),  he is still rich by £95 . That is why government lawyer accepted out of court settlement.

He has now filed bankruptcy , he claims that all he has now is  left with £ 236000 .  The solvency lawyers have proposed to the government that their fee for the completion of the sale of his assets will be £211000 . This will leave £26000 for the victims, we will hardly receive £10 each.

Please inform everyone that you know about my successful defense against this thug . I am happy to provide then my arguments that I used in my defense.

Cheers

[Mustafa Feroze]

Jony,

Just want to let you know that I won the case , this bastard had filed a claim for covenant charges in a county court somewhere near London. He sent the claim to my old address where I lived in 2005. Court summons were sent to the same address which I never received. Court ordered against me in absentia . He then went to high court, got order against me for £5000 . Bailiff came to my house with court orders to collect the money. I am a law abiding citizen and have never committed even a parking offence. In fear , I had to pay the money on 22nd December 2017. That was the first time I learned about the claim . I applied to the high court for a stay order and set aside judgement. The court gave stay order and date for  hearing that was on the 11th Jan ( last Thursday)  . I represented myself, made a convincing presentation . This thug was there as claimant. You may not be aware that he himself is a property lawyer . I am delighted to tell you that the court has set aside the previous judgment  and have passed order in my favor.  I suggest everyone must fight their case. I can provide you details of the arguments that I used in my defense  if you need.  

He is a very rich man . I strongly suspect he bribed government lawyer in the Secretary of state's case against him . If someone gives £5 out of 100 to a prosecution lawyer for them to rescind from their case ( and they do),  he is still rich by £95 . That is why government lawyer accepted out of court settlement.

He has now filed bankruptcy , he claims that all he has now is  left with £ 236000 .  The solvency lawyers have proposed to the government that their fee for the completion of the sale of his assets will be £211000 . This will leave £26000 for the victims, we will hardly receive £10 each.

Please inform everyone that you know about my successful defense against this thug . I am happy to provide then my arguments that I used in my defense.

Cheers

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Hi,

I have written to this (Intel...@insolvency.gsi.gov.uk)  government department to see how they can intervene in the case of Terracorp Ltd, and below are excepts from the reply l received last Friday.

You may also wish to report your cases to them and the other two agencies mentioned below.

With sufficient and plausible complains, they may be able to investigate and subsequently liquidate the company just as is happening now to Lakeview Development Ltd and other businesses owned by  Mr Baron Alexander Deschauer, and his associated companies to prevent the future sales being conducted in the manner which the Secretary of State has complained of.

EXCEPTS:

On Friday, January 12, 2018, Intelligence Services <Intelligence.Services@insolvency.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:

Dear Mr....

PV 0146 / 2018 / KG

Thank you for your email of 11 January 2018 concerning Terracorp Limited.

This letter is to tell you that the Insolvency Service is not intending to investigate this company at this time.

We take all complaints regarding active companies seriously, and routinely consider wider information regarding trading activities in support of our decision making.....

In this case we have decided not to take your complaint further because it appears that your complaint is criminal in nature, and as such you may wish to contact Action Fraud, the national fraud reporting service, either online at http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/report_fraud or by telephone on 0300 123 2040.

Furthermore, your complaint may be more appropriate for investigation by your local Trading Standards Office and you may wish to consider contacting them. For further details please refer to the following link: https://www.gov.uk/find-local-trading-standards-office

 

In addition, you may wish to consider seeking your own legal advice about options open to you.

 

The decision not to investigate does not mean that the company may not be investigated in future, nor should it be seen as an endorsement of the company’s operations or business practices. This decision does not stop any others from taking action against the company or the directors.

 

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[Lolita]

Hi Mustafa - i am interested to know more about the arguments you made, that gave you a successful outcome for you.

In a nutshell: Terracorp chasing me for the yearly charge again. But Glenridge, who the land was paid over 5 years in installments; never processed my land registry forms. I keep telling Terracorp that i don't own the land; i was scammed and they are still chasing me - for years now! After telling them i don't own it, they didn't request payment for a few years so I thought they looked into it and it was sorted.  But alas, next I heard from them was through a debt collection agency!!! The horror, I was panicked.

I ended up paying it, because they threatened balifs/court and bad credit rating. Now i get another letter in the post from Terracorp asking for payment for 2017/2018 yearly land charge.  They dated the letter 2 Jan but didn't arrive through my door until 17 January. But the letter says they require payment within 14 days of date of letter. How is that fair. The envelope has a post stamp of being at the Gatwick mail centre on 16 Jan - effectively the date payment was to reach them.

So, I want it to stop as between Glenridge and Terracorp, they have taken all the money I have. :(

Sorry for the long winded message. But no family so am on my own on this and would welcome any advice. I would be so so grateful.

Lolita

[Smiley]

Hi guys,

The covenant charge by Terracorp Ltd is unlawful. 

I have had some input from Mustafa and have spoken to a very good property lawyer who is also assisting me. 

My case is almost prepared and ready to go to court this week.

The lawyer assisting me now may be happy to undertake a collective case and deal decisively with Mr Baron A. Deschauer's nationwide land scam.

The information we have now is overwhelming. 

I will suggest you should make no further payment to Terracorp Limited.

Kind regards,

Emmanuel

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[indysi...@gmail.com]

Hi, could I have the details of he solicitor who is dealing with this case now, I have a hearing next Monday, call or text me on 07886656501, thank you

[Mustafa Feroze]

Dear Emanuel,

After the county court overturned the previous judgment that he obtained against me in my absence elsewhere,  this bastard has now apppealed against that judgment . Perhaps I will have to go to the court again. But I am sure I will be even better prepared this time. Please give me contact details of your lawyer . He most certainly will have more arguments.

Kind regards

Mustafa

[Mustafa Feroze]

Dear Emanuel,

This bastard has appealed against the court judgment. I think I may have to go to court again. Please give me your lawyers contact details. I am sure  he will have more arguments to strengthen our case.

Mustafa

On Tuesday, 23 January 2018 09:20:05 UTC, Smiley wrote:

[Mustafa Feroze]

Dear Lolitta,

In the first instance, you must check with the land registry that the said plot is in your name. Do you have proof of payment ? Sales  contract ?Please give me your email address, I shall send you the documents.

Kind regards

Mustafa

[dj.jos...@gmail.com]

Hi
Nice to know you have good lawyer to deal with Terracorp and he is willing to consider other plot owners. I will like to know if he can deal with different land sites plots by Baron in a one collective action against Baron! I was told that it is much easy to deal with one land group in collective action  and will be cost effective. I will be grateful for your advise.
Kind regards
Bakul

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 9:20:05 AM UTC, Smiley wrote:

[Maz]

Hi Mustafa,

Court hearing is Thursday - I'm not sure how conclusive this will be as the court letter states the purpose is to "consider track and further directions and whether expert advice is needed".
He has now appointed a lawyer to attend the hearing with him - Griffin Law. Will go in armed with the info Jony posted earlier. Curious to hear what grounds you won on? I feel the above should be enough, hard to believe a court rules in his favour, or considers this case appropriate. I expect given there is still mediation to go through even before any trial, there is still some way to go. Anything u can tell us would be helpful. Will report back post hearing. Thanks.

Maz.

[Mustafa Feroze]

Please give me your email address. I shall send you my defence arguments.

Mustafa

[Monica Bijlani]

Let's all do this together
We could get the MPs involved
This rogue must be stopped

[Monica Bijlani]

I am in the same situation

[Monica Bijlani]

Mustafa please send me any advice for my hearing in 2 weeks thanks
Monica....@gmail.com

[Monica Bijlani]

Please email me monica....@gmail.com
My hearing against Terracorp is in 2 weeks in London thanks

[Ian Clifford]

HI All!

Recently my father in law has received a offer from terracorp for £1495 to cover covenant charges.

Ive read a lot of negative things across the web on lakeview/terracorp and Baron but really not sure which way to turn.  We have 60 days to pay it otherwise it says they will seek other parties to cover it. 

Any advice is appreciated.

[lakevi...@gmail.com]

i am also a victim and came across this group when searching.

any update on the hearings? 

agree that collective action may be a better way forward, but need more advice how to do it.

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 9:20:05 AM UTC, Smiley wrote:

[lakevi...@gmail.com]

i am also a victim and preparing for the case.

can you tell me how much is the 2017/18 charge is?

[Smiley]

Hi guys,

Terracorp will not stop charging the illegal covenant charges. Even if you pay the settlement amount.

I will further propose a general meeting of all interested parties at a location, date and time neutral to all. 

Possibly a Saturday in Central London this February.

Only a "class action" victory will stop him once and for all.

I will have property lawyers in attendance.

What do you all think?

Kind regards,

Emmanuel

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[Bakul]

Hi Smiley
That sounds good idea to have a meeting. I am for this please count me in.
Bakul

[lakevi...@gmail.com]

let's us meet and support each other.

please arrange.

On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 1:50:38 PM UTC, Smiley wrote:

[Mustafa Feroze]

Please do not accept this offer, this man is a fraudster , please don't be a victim once again.

Mustafa

[thank...@googlemail.com]

Hello Smiley

Thank you for your effort.  Please count me in.

Kind regards 

KRT

[Monica Bijlani]

Dear Ian

Count me in
The sooner the better 👍

[Monica Bijlani]

Smiley
Let's meet up ASAP thanks

[Elizabeth MR]

Hi Mustafa

Could you please show me what arguments you used. I go to court on Friday. same story as yours.

Thank you so much. We can speak privately if better.

Elizabeth

[Elizabeth MR]

Me too1

[Keith Pierce]

If this meeting happens, please add us to the list and we will send a representative from Tewin Grove Plot Owners Group. Thank you.

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[Monica Bijlani]

Please let's all keep in touch so we can fight him together thanks

[Mustafa Feroze]

Please give me your email address, I shall send you my defence arguments. May I suggest you also contact Emanuel ? He is organizing group action against this thug.

Mustafa

[Mustafa Feroze]

Please call me on my mobile 0786 1723019

Mustafa

On Monday, 5 February 2018 10:25:54 UTC, Elizabeth MR wrote:

[Bourne End]

Hi Emmanuel,

Please let me know when you arrange the meeting I would like to attend. As per my other message. A collective defence is better. Please send me an update on 07753694341.
Manmohan

[lakevi...@gmail.com]

After checking my purchase documents, I cannot find the transfer of registered document, TR1, from Lakeview. Can anyone tell me if they do have the TR1 on hand for the plots they hold.

Is there any way that I can find out with the Land Registry that the plot has been registered under my name?   The Land Registry web-site can only do the search if the land has a proper post code. Can anyone shed some lights on the title search?

[spive...@googlemail.com]

Hi

Baron has also sent me court hearing, for April. I had joined a group, where I paid money for a witness statement only to be told now that legal action will need to be taken as Baron is not co-operating, I would appreciate any help please. 

[Keith Pierce]

Please can plot owners state which scheme they are involved in. Deschauer had eight schemes we know of across the country. It helps legally if people 

can link up with others in the same schemes. 

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[Mustafa Feroze]

You have to write to them with copy of the sales agreement . If Baron Deschauer hasn't processed your transfer of title document, your case is even stronger that this bastard has 'taken money and hasn't  even processed transfer of title while he is suing you for covenant charges.

Please write to land registry department with details of the plot that you paid for. They will  have to reply to   you in writing.

Mustafa

[lakevi...@gmail.com]

Thank you, this is very helpful.

Let's hope the group will meet soon to come up with something.

[Kan Chandradeva]

Hi Guys

I bought 2 Broomfield plots. I am very keen to attend if you are arranging a meeting to discuss our plight/options. United we stand - we need to take this forward as a group. Thank you

On Thursday, 1 February 2018 13:50:38 UTC, Smiley wrote:

[Siraj Sayed]

Hi Kan

 

We have now established a group led by a steering committee and already we are making good progress. 

 

Please can you share your mobile number so that I may add you to the WhatsApp group.  Can I also kindly as you, as all members been asked, to complete the attached members form so that the SC gets an idea of all our situation and the collected info from each individuals will then play a key role in a case.

 

Please also ask others who are also a victim of the scam to join us.

 

Many thanks.

 

Best

 

Siraj.

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[Oumeima]

Hello Everyone,

I am taking serious action against Baron, through a Barrister who won same case against him, her Name is Tamara Solecki at Goldsmith chambers.com 

http://www.goldsmithchambers.com/barristers/tamara-solecki/

I am already in touch with her office and waiting for an appointment to meet her.

Anyone who wants to join me please Text me on y mobile 07852190564 with your name and plot site and number.

No more time wasting, Tamara is not cheap, but when we get together it won't be expensive at all, at least we know that we are winning against Baron.

Please only serious people, no time waisters.

If we want our money back, we need to spend a bit on a top class Barrister.

She is now working on a case against him

Thank you and I await your text message

Oumeima

oumeimab at hotmail dot com

[bara...@gmail.com]

Hi Will

How did you get along with the case? Please help me. I am panicking, I received a court letter today for all the years of charges.

Have you heard of success stories. I hear some people have had some luck. 

[tish...@alitheiaidentity.com]

Kindly let me kno how I can join the group taking action. My property is at Warrengate Farm in Tewin. I purchased from Gilbert estates and now need to prepare a defence against the claim made by Terracorp for maintenance charges. Judging from the posts, Baron Deschauer has sought to swindle many of us. Any assistance will be helpful.

Cheers!

[Siraj Sayed]

Hello Tish

I am heading a group, now standing at over 50. We have a WhatsApp forum as well as a mailing list.

Can I ask you to send me your mobile no and I will add you to the group initially.

Can I also ask you to complete the attached form with your details and send the completed form together with the materials requested ( scan email if fine )

Many thanks

Siraj.

Action BAD Fraud

On 20/03/2018, 22:23, "plot-...@googlegroups.com on behalf of tish...@alitheiaidentity.com" <plot-...@googlegroups.com on behalf of tish...@alitheiaidentity.com> wrote:

Kindly let me kno how I can join the group taking action. My property is at Warrengate Farm in Tewin. I purchased from Gilbert estates and now need to prepare a defence against the claim made by Terracorp for maintenance charges. Judging from the posts, Baron Deschauer has sought to swindle many of us. Any assistance will be helpful.

Cheers!

[Tokunboh Ishmael]

Dear Siraj,

Thank you for responding. My mobile number is 07956577842. I will fill the form by the weekend. I have been working on my defence against Terracorp’s claims. I really hope we are successful in getting judgement against Baron Deschauer.

Regards,

‘Tokunboh

'Tokunboh Ishmael

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Subject: Re: [Plot Owners 1000] Re: LAND SCAM - Gilbert Estates - Bluebell / Collingham / Lakeview and others owned by mr Baron deshuear

 

[Siraj Sayed]

Hi Ishmael

 

I have just added you to the WhatsApp group.

 

I will be communicating how the SC of this group intend to assist individuals with their CCJs.

 

Will be in touch.

 

Best

 

Siraj

[thank...@googlemail.com]

Hi 

Have you joined ActionBADFraud group? We are a group covering all Glenridge companies and any other Baron's companies that want to join us.  to join please contact sayed...@gmail.com. 

KRT

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 10:01:21 AM UTC, Farthing wrote:

Hi Tony,

I have some plots and have been trying to get hold of Glenridge with little success.  I would like to join the group.  Can you please send me your details.

Many Thanks

B

[thank...@googlemail.com]

Lolita

We have created a group to cover all Glenridge companies and planning a class action.  To join, please contact sayed...@gmail.com or actionb...@gmail.com.  Our group is called ActionBADFraud.

KRT

Ilyas

On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 at 10:00:44 PM UTC+1, will wrote:

Hi

We are getting together a group of investors who have been conned by Baron Deschaur  in the form of Glenridge Estates, Ludgershall ( Buckinghamshire).

We are speaking with solicitors, to take joint legal action.

If you have bought a plot a Ludgershal, or know anyone who has, please get in touch and join us.

Will

On Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:21:46 AM UTC+1, tony green wrote:

Hi another group (now totaling over 50 people)  have been paid out by Baron Deschuer the owner of the land scam companies, they also threaten to take him to court. They got help from a ex sales person who worked for gilbert estates (gilbert estates is also linked to the land scam).

The owners live in a multi million pound estate called Wilderwick House, in Dormansland, I think the house is on 150 acres.  Some could say that land scams pay.

Plot owners should all rally asap, as rumour has it that the owners are thinking of leaving the UK. Hurry....................

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[ofran]

Dear All

I have only just come across this group and i have been trying to find legal help for a number of years now.

I have emailed the actionBADfraud group, and would like to be part of any group action that is taking place.

kind regards

Ofran

[Matt Mayatt]

My wife and I bought 2 plots of land at the bluebell hill site would love to get our money back.
Contact me at mattm...@gmail.com
Cheers.

[Matt Mayatt]

On Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:21:46 UTC+1, tony green wrote:
> Hi another group (now totaling over 50 people)  have been paid out by Baron Deschuer the owner of the land scam companies, they also threaten to take him to court. They got help from a ex sales person who worked for gilbert estates (gilbert estates is also linked to the land scam).
>
> The owners live in a multi million pound estate called Wilderwick House, in Dormansland, I think the house is on 150 acres.  Some could say that land scams pay.
>
> Plot owners should all rally asap, as rumour has it that the owners are thinking of leaving the UK. Hurry....................

Hi my wife and I also purchased 2 plots of land at the bluebell hill site and would love to join your group , please let us know how we can help.
Thank you .

[Tony Johnson]

my mailbox:      tony.b....@googlemail.com