Wanted, a copy of the beta version of Bookworm OS for the RPi5 …

[Scally]

Hi all,

I’ve tried to get a copy of the beta version of bookworm which will apparently run on all RPi’s, however the reverse is not so, Buster or Bullseye will not run on a RPi5.

I will get a copy with my new RPi5 due in a couple of weeks, but I’m eager to try bookworm before I get it officially.

Can anyone help me?, obviously those developers and testers that already have a RPi5 have the OS.

Cheers,

Al.

[Randy Reade]

Hi Al,

I suppose you could try one of the Debian versions:

https://raspi.debian.net/tested-images/

Randy

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[Scally]

Hi Randy,

Yeah I saw them but they are not what’s going to be distributed with the RPi5 …

Al.

[Randy Reade]

True.

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[Andrea Gatti]

Hi Al, while browsing the net I cam across this:

Is this what you need? Of course I haven't tested it, so I can't recommend..

AG

[Alan Cooper]

Hi AG,

I can’t see a link in your message?

Al

On 10 Oct 2023, at 20:06, Andrea Gatti <andreag...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Al, while browsing the net I cam across this:

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[Andrea Gatti]

Hi Al, sorry it didn't get thru.

Let me try again. Here it is https://gist.github.com/jauderho/6b7d42030e264a135450ecc0ba521bd8

Hope this gets displayed now.

As I wrote above, I did not test it, so I can't comment on its validity.

Cheers

Andrea.

[Alan Cooper]

Hi Andrea,

Thanks but I’d already tried updating without success. I’d seen your linked site & others. 

I’m currently trying to get a copy from one of the many people who already have a RPi5

Cheers,

Al 

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Hi Al, sorry it didn't get thru.

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[Scally]

Raspberry Pi bookworm OS is now available to download from the official site 👍🖖

Cheers,

Al

[Marc Hamilton]

Thanks for the notice Al,

I have it up and running in 2560x1600 with no issues, other than I can't pick icons for my menu items (right click properties and select the displayed icon). 

Firefox is now added as a browser option (it's the default browser in Ubuntu). 

[Marc Hamilton]

The configuration of the /boot directory has changed considerably with this version of Raspberry (12). 

Python is version 3.11

I made no edits to the config.txt file (it is really minimal) and it detected up my 2560x1600 screen format.

 

[Randy Reade]

I have PicoChess set up and running successfully on the 32-bit Lite version. A few changes are needed.

Randy

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[Marc Hamilton]

Wow! That's excellent! 

I ran into a strange problem with 12... the screen was flashing; while trading out hardware to try to isolate the problem I realized it was neither the monitor, Pi or power supply.

Monitor would not flash with Raspberry 11. To eliminate the flashing I had to set the config_hdmi_boost=7    A value of 4 was not enough.  I was playing matches on lichess for about an hour on the  12 and no flashes, so I think I'm good.

Marc

[Wilhelm]

Hello Randy,

You write that you have already got picochess with Bookworm 32bit Lite up and running.

Can you please inform me about your adaptation?

I expect my PI5 shortly and then want to be ready to go. :)

Wilhelm

[Randy Reade]

Hi Wilhelm,

I have it running on Desktop as well but there are issues running under Wayland which is now the default window manager. You can switch to X11 with raspi-config

to get around the issue (which is getting chromium running in kiosk mode). Also, there are code changes required as Wayland doesn't support some tools that Dirk

uses for full-screen, etc. (i.e. xdotool) and BlueZ changed a command which necessitated a change in dgt/board.py. I'll share my steps so that anyone comfortable 

in Linux can make a Bookworm image from scratch using files from my latest Bullseye image. It's a work in progress (it relies on using a virtual python environment) 

but I have it working in a standalone RPi4 and a DGTPi (only tested the Lite image there, so far).

I'm not sure I will change my images over to Bookworm any time soon. If I do, they will only support X11 until things stabilize with Wayland. I'll post the steps shortly.

Randy

[RandyR]

Hi Wilhelm,

Attached are the steps I used to get PicoChess running on the Lite image. If anyone wants to try their luck, let me know how you make out. Although the steps are fairly simple, I do assume the person has a good grasp of Linux. I did most of the work with the SD card plugged into my Linux laptop and all work on the Pi was via ssh (although I do have a small monitor attached to the Pi. But the Lite image has no GUI.

Getting the Desktop version working is very similar, with a few more steps required.

Good luck.

Randy

[Alan Cooper]

Good luck Wilhelm, 

I’ve tried twice over 6 days & can’t get it working, 

yet I have religiously followed Randy’s script. 

Al

 

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Hi Wilhelm,

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<Bookworm_Lite_Setup.txt>

[Wilhelm]

Hello Randy,

Thank you for your extensive instructions. It is more to be done than I thought.

The fact that the Provi Al still has problems could indicate difficulties.

But I will try to report it here.

The Litle-OS is already running on my ChessPi. SSH and WIFI are set up. I will now follow your further instructions.

greeting
Wilhelm

[Wilhelm]

Hello Randy,

A big praise and thanks for your instructions.

The first attempt was successful.

Picochess runs with Bookworm 32bit Litle.

Now the PI5 can come.

My chessspi runs with bookworm, sound card, Bluetooth and USB sticks.

Have already made the first moves on my DGT-BT board.

Everything perfect.

Thanks again to Randy.

Greetings

Wilhelm

[Randy Reade]

That's great, Wilhelm. Thanks for the feedback.

Randy

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[Marc Hamilton]

Why is Picochess and Python 3.10/11 incompatible?  Is it missing libraries, or depreciated code or something else?

[Randy Reade]

Yes. The PicoChess code has not been updated for the latest versions. Hence, the virtual environment. It's easier and safer than editing python modules that could break something in the OS, just to get PicoChess to run.

Randy

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[Scally]

Hi all,

Ok I copied the wrong version of board.py from my v3.0 Picochess system instead of Randy’s 3.2 system, mainly because it contained the Elfacun additions.

V3.2 bookworm now works on a separate RPi4 with DGTPI = False, but as soon as I put the same sd card onto my DGT Pi (Scally Pi) all files become read only, so Picochess crashes as it can’t write the log ….

Any ideas anyone, the files have the correct attributes and work on a non DGT Pi system, very strange …

Al

[Dirk]

Hi Al,

that sounds really strange. Unfortunately I have no idea why your ScallyPi should do that if you always took good care of him ;-) 

I assume you also changed set DGTPI = True in your ScallyPi, right ;-)

I will wait until we have a Bookworm 64 Bit PicochessWeb image for the PI5 ;-)

Dirk

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[Alan Cooper]

Hi Dirk,

Yes I changed DGTPi to True …

Al 

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[Randy Reade]

Try deleting the log(s), if you can.

Randy

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[Marc Hamilton]

Randy,

Per your instructions on installing the Lite version of Pico on Bookworm. I'm running into a problem when I issue the second 
exec "$SHELL"  on line 35.  At that point, none of the commands from /bin/bash work anymore.

I just get "command not found"... 

[Randy Reade]

I would guess that one of the 'echo' commands wasn't entered properly. Open .bashrc and .profile and remove the added entries at the bottom and try again.

If you are using copy/paste ensure you are copying the complete line. Also, make sure your text editor isn't changing anything in the text file.

Randy

[Alan Cooper]

Deleting the logs and games didn’t help, I will try another sd card later today.

Al 

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[Scally]

Hi all,

I’ve tried 5 times over 2 weeks, but cannot get a bookworm system. All my files go read only …

So if anyone has a working system and can share an image, I’d be grateful …

Cheers,

Al

[Scally]

Hi all,

Wilhelm was most helpful in supplying me his image of bookworm.

Like my image it works fine on an external RPi4, but everything becomes read only when the sd card is placed in a DGT Pi, so doesn’t work.

So my images were fine all along, 2 people can’t be making the same mistakes.

I really don’t understand why this happens, anyone got any ideas?

My new RPi5 was ordered on the first day it was available before 10 am, so should be with me in the next couple of weeks.

I’m hoping to sort this out before then.

Cheers,

Al.

[Randy Reade]

Do you have anything plugged in to the USB ports?

Are you using an SD card extender?

Are there any relevant errors in ‘journalctl -b’ after seeing the error?

Any errors in picochess/logs?

Can you build an image directly on the DGTPi?

You could also try isolating the pi from the clock as a last resort.

Randy

[Scally]

Hi Randy,

Nothing in the usb ports, sd card plugged into the DGT Pi (which is a RPi4 also) the Picochess logs and games cannot be written too as they are read only, and can’t be changed on the DGT Pi, I tried deleting them but can’t even do that.

As soon as I place the sd card into the standalone RPi 4 all the file attributes are correct and it connects to my board etc and is totally playable.

I’m not going to try to build an image on the DGT Pi, after 6 builds I’ve had enough of that.

I’ll plug it back into the DGT Pi, and record the errors, although I already posted the read only errors on the logs.

Cheers,

Al.

[Randy Reade]

Does it run in standalone mode in the DGTPi (dgtpi = false and remove any edits in config.txt)?

Randy

[Scally]

Hi Randy,

I’ll try in a minute.

The output from a normal start and an attempted ‘journalctl -b’ command to a file failed as per attachment.

Cheers,

Al

[Randy Reade]

You'll probably just have to look using journalctl itself.

Also, does a clean Bookworm image even run in the DGTPi in rw mode?

Randy

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023, 8:36 a.m. Scally <scall...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Randy,

I’ll try in a minute.

The output from a normal start and an attempted ‘journalctl -b’ command to a file failed as per attachment.

Cheers,

Al

On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 2:19:21 PM UTC+1 RandyR wrote:

Does it run in standalone mode in the DGTPi (dgtpi = false and remove any edits in config.txt)?

Randy

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023, 8:03 a.m. Scally <scall...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Randy,

Nothing in the usb ports, sd card plugged into the DGT Pi (which is a RPi4 also) the Picochess logs and games cannot be written too as they are read only, and can’t be changed on the DGT Pi, I tried deleting them but can’t even do that.

As soon as I place the sd card into the standalone RPi 4 all the file attributes are correct and it connects to my board etc and is totally playable.

I’m not going to try to build an image on the DGT Pi, after 6 builds I’ve had enough of that.

I’ll plug it back into the DGT Pi, and record the errors, although I already posted the read only errors on the logs.

Cheers,

Al.

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[Scally]

Hi Randy,

No a clean image does not run in a DGT Pi, the files always go read only in a DGT Pi.

Al

[Randy Reade]

Just to clarify, is that after flashing the Bookworm image using RPi-Imager and inserting directly in the DGTPi? Starting to sound like a hardware issue.

Randy

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Hi Randy,

[Scally]

Hi Randy,

I’m not so sure it’s hardware related as all other sd cards work fine in my DGT Pi.

I’ve used a brand new 32gb sd card for the bookworm image too

This is really weird …

Al

[Randy Reade]

The only other thing I can think of is that the wiring to the clock is somehow causing issues with the Bookworm image. That's really the only difference between the RPi4's.

Journalctl should show some entries when the file system gets switched to read only. It should be complaining about not being able to save system logs. But, maybe there won't be any system/boot logs for the same reason. 

At least it's not related to the PicoChess install.

Randy

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023, 10:26 a.m. Scally <scall...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Randy,

I’m not so sure it’s hardware related as all other sd cards work fine in my DGT Pi.

I’ve used a brand new 32gb sd card for the bookworm image too

This is really weird …

Al

On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:10:15 PM UTC+1 RandyR wrote:

Just to clarify, is that after flashing the Bookworm image using RPi-Imager and inserting directly in the DGTPi? Starting to sound like a hardware issue.

Randy

On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 9:05 AM Scally <scall...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Randy,

No a clean image does not run in a DGT Pi, the files always go read only in a DGT Pi.

Al

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[Scally]

Hi all,

Has anyone with the latest bookworm image managed to get a speaker working using the jack plug?

I have tried for 2 days but got nowhere near.

I have a USB-C jack plug converter arriving today in readiness for the RPi5 which doesn’t have a jack plug, maybe I’ll have better luck with that.

Cheers,

Al

[Scally]

Hi all,

OK I’ve got it working intermittently by uninstalling pulse audio and following several online posts.

However it works after a raspi-config and selecting System Options / Audio / USB Audio (as I now have a usb to jack converter ready for RPi5), when I reboot the first time everything works, but on subsequent reboots sound is lost again.

Any ideas how I make the sound change permanent?

Al