"pregens" in we be goblins

[Matthew Paluch]

Ok i just looked it up, and i think i know what the right call is, but wante dto verify before i lose a chronicle sheet in the next 33 minutes.

Pre-gens have a restriction that they must be applied to a NEWLY CREATED lvl 1, with 0xp.  Its part of the penalty for using a pregen.

Most tier 1-2 or sanction AP content can be re run as much as you like with lvl 1s, so long as they havent run it before, and they do not need to be brand new 0xp'ers.

In we be goblins, you are technically forced to use pregens, so to me it counts as b) not a) where you optionally chose a pregen, then wanted to apply it to a different character.  in my mind you are playing your lvl 1 in we be goblins, he just hasdifferent stats hehe.  i dont think the pregen penalty of only-0xp should be used for we be goblins when youre forced to use their pregens.,  

agree, disagree?  Can i run we be goblins and apply it to my barbarian who already has 1xp or am i forced by the 'pregen' rule to apply it to a 0xp guy?

matt

[Arthur Perkins]

The we be goblins sheets can be applied to any 1-2 tier character, and can only be applied to a level 2 once. The rules for this particular module can be found on the paizo web page underneath the we be goblins module page.

[Matthew Paluch]

sweet, barb it is!  as always thanks arthur

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[Carlos Clements]

So you play a pregen and can apply it to your level 2 character for credit?

On Monday, May 27, 2013 4:21:15 PM UTC-4, Matthew Paluch wrote:

[Matthew Paluch]

just for we be goblins (or other tier 1-2), and just once.  normally if you use a pregen (1, 4, or 7) you have to follow the special penalties.

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[Marty Weil]

Actually, it is only for We Be Goblins!, because you have to play one of the pregens. Other Tier 1 scenarios/mdules work normally with pregens, since you can play a normal PC in them.

IIRC, there were only 37 people who ever had the option to play We Be Goblins! without using a pregen. I believe Kyle Baird mentioned that he had done so with his boon goblin.

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[Informed Opinion]

A slightly off-topic question...

 

Has there been an official statement on how "We Be Goblins, Too" will work for PFS play?  It appears to be designed for L3 goblin pregens, so it might be unique in terms of how to apply Chronicle Sheets to PCs.

 

TIA!

 

Oren

 

[Sior]

My guess is it will be applied to one lvl 3 character. It is possible (however unlikely) that it may be assigned to a lvl 2, 3, or 4. Sad thing is that while We Be Goblins is a repeatable module, We Be Goblins, Too will not be.

[IronHelixx]

Scenario/Sanctioned Module/Sanctioned AP Credit rule from the PFS Guide to Society Play:

There is one exception to these rules: All Tier 1

scenarios and Tier 1–2 sanctioned modules are available

for unlimited replay with a 1st-level character for credit.

The sanctioned modules can also be played with a 2nd level

character once for credit. You may continue to

replay the sanctioned modules with 1st-level characters

after playing through them with a 2nd-level character.

GMs can receive another Chronicle sheet each time they

run one of the Tier 1 scenarios or Tier 1–2 sanctioned

modules. No character can ever have two of the same

Chronicle—the Chronicle must be applied to a different

character each time.

-And-

As always, each player may receive credit for each

module or Adventure Path volume once as a player and

once as a GM, in either order. Players must accept a

Chronicle sheet for their characters the first time they play

any sanctioned content. A player may replay sanctioned

content at the GM’s discretion, but the player may not

receive more than one Chronicle sheet per adventure.

The only exceptions are Tier 1–2 modules and sanctioned

Adventure Path content. A player may only play a Tier 1–2

module or sanctioned Adventure Path content for credit

once with a 2nd-level character, but may use additional

1st-level characters to replay the same content for credit.

So this includes Master of the Fallen Fortress, We be Goblins, The First Steps Trilogy, Murders Mark, Crypt of the Everflame, and The Godsmouth Heresy, plus some Sanctioned AP stuff.

With "We Be Goblins", Kinevon is correct about the Pre-Gen credit application being slightly different than the rest due to its "Special" nature.

- Jesse [IronHelixx]

On Monday, May 27, 2013 3:50:13 PM UTC-5, Kinevon wrote:

Actually, it is only for We Be Goblins!, because you have to play one of the pregens. Other Tier 1 scenarios/mdules work normally with pregens, since you can play a normal PC in them.

IIRC, there were only 37 people who ever had the option to play We Be Goblins! without using a pregen. I believe Kyle Baird mentioned that he had done so with his boon goblin.

[Matthew Paluch]

By the way, i found the rule that was referenced to me by a 5-star VC about pregens - basically, they are not meant to be cannon fodder (no surprise), OR (oddly!) EVEN a chance to play a class that the party needs (5 fighters and rogue walk into a bar...)... but apparently this rule only applies to Modules and APs, not scenarios, for reasons i cant fathom.

Guide to Organized Play, p 29, bottom right, second paragraph, first sentence under "Legal Pathfinder Society Characters:" (emphasis added)

"For modules and Adventure Path content below 9th level, if you do not have a character in the correct level range, you may use a [pregen from paizo.com or NPC codex]"

In other words, you cant pick and choose when to play a pregen - you can only play one when you have zero characters that could meet the level range.

why it applies only to modules and AP, i dont know.  why it applies at all, i dont know.

How on earth is a GM supposed to audit every single players account any time he asks to play a pregen?

My interpretation of his wording (so this is by no means a quote) was that the same rule *would apply to scenarios too*, if they could enforce it... if not for the infinite complexities of :

player #1 - i dont have a guy in this range so ill run a pregen

player #2 - hey if i run a different guy i have yours will now work!

player #3 - but now mine wont and I have to play a pregen

player #4 - and now your lvl change makes me play a different character

player #1 - and now im ineligible again

(repeat until dead)

Anyways, the spirit of the rule seems clear - youre not supposed to help out a party by running a Kyra-7 when you have a valid character you could play instead.

take it for what its worth, as far as i can read it only applies to modules and AP... for now.

matt

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