T-2 feeder any info

[output]

On one of the well known Chinese websites they are selling triple 8-mm "OpenPNP" compatible T2 feeders for about € 70,-. I tried to find some information, but it seems there are many types of T-2 feeders. 

I wonder if it would be possible to mount them on a standard alu profile and whether there are any experiences with those feeders. Currently I am using bamboofeeder AS-2, which seem ok for passives, but I experience some problems with  thin black tape (e.g. LEDs) 

Anyone has experience with those feeders (usage, interfacing, mounting), or any other suggestions for a DIY PNP ? 

[Marco Blancato]

I saw those feeders, seems to be popular and I want to buy one to see. Interfacing should be simple with a common rs232-USB converter. However, it would be better to first read some opinions from those who have already tested it, because there's a big difference between something simply working and working well — with precise, repeatable placement, without anything getting jammed or lighter components popping out of the tape... 

[output]

I ordered one to try. Also noticed a simple RS232-USB converter should do the trick. 
It probably might take about 2 weeks before I will receive it.

Op vrijdag 4 april 2025 om 08:43:57 UTC+2 schreef marcobl...@gmail.com:

[marcoblancato65]

Looks like the same used on this machine, hope they are good 

https://www.picksoeasy.com/PSE-3000.html

I'll buy one also. Keep us posted 

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[thatlittlefrog]

These look very similar to deltaprintr's rapid feeders - https://www.deltaprintr.com/product/rapid-feeder/

[Thorsten.R]

Hi,
I had 10 of the T-2 feeders running, 3x 8mm and 2x12mm, they all communicate via USB > RS485.You need the 4-pole rail for this.

They are OK but moderately processed and everything is very sharp-edged, the cover tape is fiddly to insert and after the pinion the tape hangs free, so that the components can jump with thin plastic tape.

Each feeder has its own ID, which is permanently lasered in, so they are easy to address.

I now prefer Siemen Siplace, they cost the same but work 100x better. They are just huge compared to the T-2.

Thorsten

[Marco Blancato]

@ Thorsten,
  So you confirm that only a simple USB-RS485 adapter and a rail for the connection are needed.
How does it work with OpenPnP?
Is any software adaptation required or do they recognize standard feed commands?
How do you set the feed advance in millimeters?  

[Thorsten.R]

Hi,

yes, they are very simple to control, similar to 0815 feeders. See pdf in the appendix.

[Marco Blancato]

Thank you

[output]

I received the first one a while ago, first impression is quite ok.  Thorsten mentioned: " after the pinion the tape hangs free, so that the components can jump with thin plastic tape."  I can imagine that's the case (no experience yet) but probably it is solvable by adding some support underneath (still wonder why the table is 'floating' at the pick location, basically it is only supported at one side by the sprocket gear)

I also looked at the SiPlace feeders suggested, but for my situation these seem too big. 

When searching the Chinese sites, there seem to be 2 variants of this T2 (or "Ray") feeder: 

• Black PCB  
• Green PCB 

I have the ones with the black PCB, it has all metal gears. Judging from the pictures, the one with green PCB has some plastic gears. I have no idea which one is newer or whether there are other differences. 

I first hooked it up to a power supply (6.5V approx. 2A is required) and by using a push button on the feeder, I could forward the tape. I also have Bamboo feeders, but have to admit, tape loading of the T2 is easier.   

I used an USB to RS485 converter (FTDI based) and with the PDF from Thorsten (Thanks for this) and a little help from Google translate, was able to control the forward feed via OpenPnP. 

They are assigned 3 addresses, which are lasered in. Today I received a second feeder (was curious about the assigned addresses) and fortunately it has different addresses. It seems there is also an option to change the address, but didn't try it.   

After trying the feed using OpenPnP,  I decided to give this feedera try, so designed a small pcb (length 39cm) to mate the feeder contacts. 

 

My PNP is constructed of 20x20 profile. For the width it It fits perfectly on 20x20, but not for the height. I am currently designing a replacement 3d printable lock lever, which should  facilitate to mount it on a 20x10 profile.  

As soon as it's mounted, I will try to get it working with visual support. 

Op woensdag 9 april 2025 om 13:56:31 UTC+2 schreef Marco Blancato:

[Thorsten.R]

Hi,
I have a total of 6 or 8 black ones, 3x8 and 2x12 if someone in Europe would like to have them for postage, please let me know.

[Thorsten.R]

Hi,

Now the 3 kg feeders are gone to the user output :)

[output]

Received them today, thank you very much :-)

Op dinsdag 20 mei 2025 om 23:46:36 UTC+2 schreef Thorsten.R:

[Thorsten.R]

Hi output,

That was quick, have fun making it.

[Marco Blancato]

Do you mean they are sold?

[Thorsten.R]

Hi Marco, yes sold to the user output.

[svetozar161]

Greetings. I also got my first feeder today. In the bag were three spare plates printed on a printer. What is it no one knows?

пятница, 23 мая 2025 г. в 23:23:58 UTC+3, Thorsten.R:

[Thorsten.R]

Hi,
they are used for guidance, see photo, otherwise the tape flutters.

[svetozar161]

Clearly, we will try. Please explain, for example, after scanning the QR code, I got the address +a0133Y, as I understand it, this is one feeder, and the other two with what addresses?? What commands should I send to the console to check addresses and moving forward and back? Thanks

воскресенье, 25 мая 2025 г. в 17:49:13 UTC+3, Thorsten.R:

[165718275]

QR codes are only applicable to the smtez software and can be automatically scanned and entered. The dealer will provide documentation for the control instructions

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Date: Mon, May 26, 2025 00:51 AM

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Clearly, we will try. Please explain, for example, after scanning the QR code, I got the address +a0133Y, as I understand it, this is one feeder, and the other two with what addresses?? What commands should I send to the console to check addresses and moving forward and back? Thanks

воскресенье, 25 мая 2025 г. в 17:49:13 UTC+3, Thorsten.R:

Hi,
they are used for guidance, see photo, otherwise the tape flutters.

sveto...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 25. Mai 2025 um 16:14:54 UTC+2:

Greetings. I also got my first feeder today. In the bag were three spare plates printed on a printer. What is it no one knows?

пятница, 23 мая 2025 г. в 23:23:58 UTC+3, Thorsten.R:

Hi Marco, yes sold to the user output.

Marco Blancato schrieb am Freitag, 23. Mai 2025 um 19:32:21 UTC+2:

Do you mean they are sold?

Il giorno martedì 20 maggio 2025 alle 23:46:36 UTC+2 Thorsten.R ha scritto:

Hi,

Now the 3 kg feeders are gone to the user output :)

Thorsten.R schrieb am Montag, 19. Mai 2025 um 22:59:51 UTC+2:

Hi,
I have a total of 6 or 8 black ones, 3x8 and 2x12 if someone in Europe would like to have them for postage, please let me know.

output schrieb am Montag, 19. Mai 2025 um 20:55:27 UTC+2:

I received the first one a while ago, first impression is quite ok.  Thorsten mentioned: " after the pinion the tape hangs free, so that the components can jump with thin plastic tape."  I can imagine that's the case (no experience yet) but probably it is solvable by adding some support underneath (still wonder why the table is 'floating' at the pick location, basically it is only supported at one side by the sprocket gear)

I also looked at the SiPlace feeders suggested, but for my situation these seem too big. 

When searching the Chinese sites, there seem to be 2 variants of this T2 (or "Ray") feeder: 

• Black PCB  
• Green PCB 

I have the ones with the black PCB, it has all metal gears. Judging from the pictures, the one with green PCB has some plastic gears. I have no idea which one is newer or whether there are other differences. 

I first hooked it up to a power supply (6.5V approx. 2A is required) and by using a push button on the feeder, I could forward the tape. I also have Bamboo feeders, but have to admit, tape loading of the T2 is easier.   

I used an USB to RS485 converter (FTDI based) and with the PDF from Thorsten (Thanks for this) and a little help from Google translate, was able to control the forward feed via OpenPnP. 

They are assigned 3 addresses, which are lasered in. Today I received a second feeder (was curious about the assigned addresses) and fortunately it has different addresses. It seems there is also an option to change the address, but didn't try it.   

After trying the feed using OpenPnP,  I decided to give this feedera try, so designed a small pcb (length 39cm) to mate the feeder contacts. 

 

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[Селенин Алексей]

That's what I was afraid of. The thing is, I'm building my own machine based on marlin and openpnp. Is smtez really some kind of closed platform? It is 100% based on openpnp. They even write about it on their store pages. I generally suspect that the feeder is based on photon firmware. No one has tried to connect it to their self-assembled machine.

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[165718275]

App.smtez.com/smtez.exe 

This is the download link for the software. It can be confirmed that it is not based on open PNP. There are only different versions of devices available.

T2 Feeder has an open protocol that can be compatible with various software

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[Mike Menci]

It seams like it might be used instead of bending "tung" pushing tape down in a pick up area slot... 
Compare used and new feeder picture;  

[Селенин Алексей]

I understand you. Do you happen to have a guide on how to set up a feeder specifically in openpnp? Those scraps of data that the Chinese offer don't work. The feeder is not detected. We need instructions from the person who managed to launch the feeder in openpnp. Thanks.

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[Селенин Алексей]

Yes. I confirm this. In the new version, they changed the length of the slats, and apparently this should help with thin cover tape on plastic reels. But you need to check. I haven't been able to set up the feeder in the program yet((

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[Mike Menci]

Well Contact info at Ali Web page 

[Mike Menci]

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[165718275]

This was taken while I was working

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Yes. I confirm this. In the new version, they changed the length of the slats, and apparently this should help with thin cover tape on plastic reels. But you need to check. I haven't been able to set up the feeder in the program yet((

пн, 26 мая 2025 г., 08:16 Mike Menci <mike....@gmail.com>:

It seams like it might be used instead of bending "tung" pushing tape down in a pick up area slot... 

Compare used and new feeder picture;  

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[1657...@qq.com]

Refer to this

[svetozar161]

I've already done that. I did everything according to the manual from the seller. Configured Gdriver, feeders and actuators. By the way, what does the letter "T" at the end of the string "M600 N{integerValue} F3 T" mean? I don't understand how to set up addresses. I scanned the code from above and got "+a0133Y", I entered it in the window, but I get the error 'IO controller Error'. On top of the inscription there is "307, 308, 309" these are the numbers of feeders. They also need to be entered somewhere. I don't understand anything

понедельник, 26 мая 2025 г. в 08:47:03 UTC+3, 1657...@qq.com:

[165718275]

Don't pay attention to this QR code, control the M600 N305 F1 T used by Feida

F1 means one square ahead. 

N305 is the address number

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Это я уже сделал. Я сделал все по мануалу от продавца. Настроил Gdriver, питатели и актуаторы. Кстати, что обозначает буква "Т" в конце строки "M600 N{IntegerValue} F3 T? Мне непонятно как настроить адреса. Я просканировал код сверху и мне выдало "+a0133Y", я ввел его в окно, но мне пишет ошибку 'IO controller Error". Сверху еще надписи есть "307, 308, 309" это номера питателей. Их тоже нужно где-то вводить. Ничего не понятно

понедельник, 26 мая 2025 г. в 08:47:03 UTC+3, 1657...@qq.com:

Refer to this

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[Thorsten.R]

Hi,I bent them myself because otherwise the tape would flutter.

[Mike Menci]

Normally feeders have "spring" push from the bottom of the tape - pushing tape up - than the top pick up location for part is always at the same tape elevation for all the feeders... ....  

[svetozar161]

Some pictures with the inside of the T2 feeder. I wonder if Photon is worth it here? The firmware is probably closed.

вторник, 27 мая 2025 г. в 08:06:30 UTC+3, mike....@gmail.com:

[svetozar161]

Perhaps I found a solution with a vibrating cover tape on black tapes. A M2.5x5 brass rack is soldered on the board and an adjustment screw is screwed in. Holes for a screwdriver are made in the lid and the degree of pressing of the tape to the lid is adjusted. I`ll need to try)) Maybe the manufacturer, if he is still alive, will think about it?))

вторник, 27 мая 2025 г. в 13:36:23 UTC+3, svetozar161:

[Mike Menci]

What is the purpose of this brass? 

Magic by iPhon..

Dne 27. maj 2025 ob 13:02 je oseba svetozar161 <sveto...@gmail.com> zapisala:

Perhaps I found a solution with a vibrating cover tape on black tapes. A M2.5x5 brass rack is soldered on the board and an adjustment screw is screwed in. Holes for a screwdriver are made in the lid and the degree of pressing of the tape to the lid is adjusted. I`ll need to try)) Maybe the manufacturer, if he is still alive, will think about it?))

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[bert shivaan]

The brass is a threaded sleeve providing a way to solder a nut there

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[output]

Below the configuration I used for initial test. The 140/141 is the address which is lasered in the metal top for each feeder position. 
I only performed a brief test with forward feed (I never used reverse) 

I assume the actuator value for the feeder overrules the value from the actuator: 
by changing the one from the feeder I could select another one. 

 

Op maandag 26 mei 2025 om 07:03:37 UTC+2 schreef sveto...@gmail.com:

[svetozar161]

Нет. Ничего не работает. Выскакивают ошибки про таймаут подключения. Программа пишет, что прошивка не обнаруживается. В общем беда. Кстати я считал оттуда прошивку, она размером 4 кБ)) Кому интересно, могут попытаться дизассемблировать

вторник, 27 мая 2025 г. в 19:32:36 UTC+3, output:

[svetozar161]

Can someone read their firmware from the feeder (it is not locked and can be read via SWD - ST-Link) and compare it with mine? And if you share your own, it will be great in general. I have a suspicion that I bought a hastily assembled feeder with damaged firmware. Thank you.

вторник, 27 мая 2025 г. в 23:56:08 UTC+3, svetozar161:

[1657...@qq.com]

When you bought the feeder, didn't the seller give you a guide document? These steps are all in the document.

[1657...@qq.com]

This error message is from the openpnp software. You may have overlooked some important settings.

[svetozar161]

In general, I tried this way and that, in any case-nothing comes out. I installed the 2023 version, but it doesn't work. Put it on Win 7-silence. In short, I ordered a USB-485 on an FTDI chip and will try with it. Now you need to design the lower arm to clamp the board and aluminum profile together. The factory thing doesn't match. I read above that mister output designed this. Don't share the STL file?)) Thank you all for your help 

четверг, 29 мая 2025 г. в 06:24:47 UTC+3, 1657...@qq.com:

[svetozar161]

In general, I replaced the USB-485 adapter and everything worked! Experimentally, I found out that when forming a code, the letter " T "
at the end is not needed.
M600 - makes forward movement by the number of teeth determined by the letter" F "(1mm,2mm,3mm, etc.) after entering" F8", the LED starts flashing, probably indicating an accident.
M601-makes a backward movement, the letter " F " and " T " are also not important. The motor rotates indefinitely until the yellow lever of the tape end is pressed or the button at the back of the housing is pressed
M605 - there is no effect in different variations. Constantly writes "ok" and that's it
M999-The value "F3" at the end is important (M999 N307 F3 for example). The address changes incrementally by one value. For example: enter M999 N307 F3 answer: ok, 307, 308, 309. If we enter M999 F308 F3, the answer is ok, 308, 309, 310, and so on. This is how addresses change.

[Alex Sedyshev]

Hello everyone.
I bought 2 pcs T2-8mm for test and used these feeders for place more than 600  - 0603 components,  and it's work much better than my old automatic 3d printed feeders (Mike project).
Now i think to change all old feeders include 12mm and 16mm and  have only one question what is the maximum strip heighs for 12mm and 16mm feeders. I can't find this information.

пятница, 30 мая 2025 г. в 20:25:21 UTC+3, sveto...@gmail.com:

[165718275]

8mm

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[Mike Menci]

I would follow this Vishay data sheet attached.

[Absak]

Looking at the firmware binary in Ghidra, it seems that either:

a) the entire firmware was not extracted from the STM32, or
b) the file is incomplete.

You can take a look at the README here with what I found. It appears that most of the firmware is missing; I was only able to identify some mathematical functions.

It’s also possible that I didn’t interpret the binary correctly, but given its small size, I’m doubtful.

If anyone can provide another binary, that would be greatly appreciated.

Best,
Nick

AI mention : i did use a  local-LLM to order my thoughts.