Tables

[Sven Klages]

Hi,

are there any plans to implement some kind of tables within notecase?

This is something I sometimes really miss :-)

Sven

[marbux]

Hi, Sven,

The GTK widget used for the display in the Note Pane, GTKTextView, has
a bug that blocks more than a single horizontal alignment being set
per line. So features that would require more than a single horizontal
alignment are impossible until that bug is fixed. Blocked features
include tables, columns, blockquotes, and proper alignment of lists.

Unfortunately, the bug was reported some 3 years ago, but GTK
developers haven't got around to fixing it yet.

Best regards,

Paul

[Sven Klages]

2012/9/5 marbux <mar...@gmail.com>

Thanks for that information ... what a pity, it's rellay sth. I miss ..

regards,

Sven

[Sven Klages]

Any news on that? Is that bug already fixed? I could not find that bug on bugzilla (probably due to a lack of correct keywords).

best, Sven

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[Miroslav Rajcic]

Here is the bug report that Paul mentioned:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499916

Reported in 2007, time does indeed fly ;-)
The bug itself is related to improving bullet list layout.
Tables would require drawing lines in text view, and that's not supported in text view, regardless of the state of this bug.

Regards,
  Miro

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[Paul Merrell]

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:31 AM, Sven Klages <sir.sv...@gmail.com> wrote:

Any news on that? Is that bug already fixed? I could not find that bug on bugzilla (probably due to a lack of correct keywords).

Nope. The bug report is at <https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=499916>. 

I encourage everyone to add a new request that it be fixed. 

Best regards,

 

Paul

 

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[Sven Klages]

hmm, okay ..

One of the maintainers, Olivier Delhomme, is not working anymore on GtkTextView since quite a while. Nobody seems to feel responsible for that bug :-( Don't know if new requests will push the issue forward.

Isn't there the possibility to use another GTK widget for the note pane?

best, Sven

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[Paul Merrell]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Sven Klages <sir.sv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> hmm, okay ..
> One of the maintainers, Olivier Delhomme, is not working anymore on
> GtkTextView since quite a while. Nobody seems to feel responsible for that
> bug :-( Don't know if new requests will push the issue forward.
>
> Isn't there the possibility to use another GTK widget for the note pane?

I don't know the answer to that question. But you can add support for
some HTML elements during export to HTML using a pair of scripts I
wrote that are posted for download at
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/notecase-pro/dTI5OeNrmAw/_Imu7yuzN8AJ>.
Includes blockquotes, nested ordered and unordered lists, a few
others.

Because of the way I designed the export processing script, it would
be trivial for me to add support for other HTML elements or
attributes. But that approach requires that you write the relevant
elements and attributes in the Note Pane. HTML tables, in particular,
can be rather mind-numbing to write manually, So they would perhaps be
better created in an HTML editor that uses a WYSIWYG interface for
creating tables, then paste the raw HTML to the Note Pane. But I would
have to add support for converting the relevant escaped table elements
and attributes to unescaped HTML.

This of course is useless if your ultimate product target it not HTML.

[Daniel H (hermocom)]

Hi Paul, Miro,

please remember there is a download area for scripts on http://www.notecaseproplugins.com :-)

You can even upload your own scripts by yourself there. (However, I have to approve before they are publicly available).

My feeling is that there are quite a lot of interesting scripts that could be useful for others…

Regarding GtkTextView: Is the widget not maintained at all anymore? Isn’t there someone who could take over care about that widget in the GTK project?

And if there in’t anybody - how about hiring a developer who would at least fix the most important bugs for us? I would throw in some bucks. Let’s make a crowdfunding project for this. 

However, this only makes sense if it’s profitable for us NoteCase Pro users. If the future switch to GTK3 means that the GTK2 GTKTextView fixes will be obsolete, then it probably does not make sense.

Daniel

[Paul Merrell]

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Daniel H (hermocom)
<dher...@gmail.com> wrote:

> please remember there is a download area for scripts on
> http://www.notecaseproplugins.com :-)
>
> You can even upload your own scripts by yourself there. (However, I have to
> approve before they are publicly available).

Will try again. When I tried that a few months ago the submission
script wasn't working.

> My feeling is that there are quite a lot of interesting scripts that could
> be useful for others…

I've currently got circa 270 scripts in my Cornucopia collection,
nearly all completed and debugged. But I hesitate to post the
collection because there are still a few that either haven't been
completed or need debugging. The collection is ultimately intended to
become a plugin.

These scripts are all organized under a menu in a hierarchy and the
menu note itself is a script launcher. So only the single note need be
assigned to a keyboard shortcut or toolbar icon in order to pop up the
menu for all scripts.

Each script embeds its own documentation. By selecting a script and
pushing the Help button on the pop-up, the script's documentation is
displayed in the system default web browser.

Maybe post it as an alpha release of a script collection, to replace
the existing Cornucopia script collction download?

> Regarding GtkTextView: Is the widget not maintained at all anymore? Isn’t
> there someone who could take over care about that widget in the GTK project?
>
> And if there in’t anybody - how about hiring a developer who would at least
> fix the most important bugs for us? I would throw in some bucks. Let’s make
> a crowdfunding project for this.

I'll kick in $100. But a few years back, I posted to the GTK irc
channel with an offer of $100 to fix the bug and a promise to recruit
more donations if anyone was interested in earning some money. No
takers.

My sniff is that TextView in its GTK2 form is no longer used in any
projects that go beyond very basic HTML support, else this one would
have been fixed long ago. It's conceivable to me that this bug was
fixed in TextView's GTK3 iteration. GTK3 seems to be where all of the
GTK developer interest lies these days.

So it might be that migration to GTK3 will cure related issues. We'll
have to await a GTK3 development build of NoteCase Pro to see.

Best regards,

Paul

[Miroslav Rajcic]

Hi Sven,

any change of such central widget requires substantial rewrite of the program and would need to be carefully orchestrated.
So far I did not find the suitable widget (http://webkitgtk.org/ is one of the options, but it is heavy, not core part of GTK and would probably require to implement many things in JScript, so I am wary of it).

Regards,
  Miro

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