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I have a feeling even if he doesn't return we can be expecting his scumbag mates to be emboldened by his adventure and pitching up at the door next...
Be vigilant
While taking a picture each time the door is opened is maybe too far, I think decent CCTV coverage of all entry/exit points is a great start.
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A question for members: how secure do we expect the Hackspace to be? As secure as a pub, work, home? From my POV I hardly know anybody, so I'd have no chance of spotting non members.
I'm in favour of increased security and reasonable monitoring
Ian
The fact is that the presence of CCTV doesn't really act as a deterrent
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I've begun to question anybody who wants to get in through the front door if I'm the one to answer it. I think we all must adopt a firmer yet polite "you are not a member, I dont know you, I cannot let you in" attitude.We've begun to lock the doors when we go out (a previous thread) and that should continue. Outside of tuesday nights, I'd urge everyone not to give out any information on, say, the padlock code (I've been asked this a few times) or leave the backdoor open.It was a point I raised before the move; the security of our unit is not something I think our community as a whole, has come to terms with. Our location, in comparison to Cremer is less secure, with more foot traffic, in an area of London not exactly crime free. Our increased visibility makes us more of a target.Cameras have been an issue for a long time. While I would not be as forthright as Tim, the key issue with cameras is members retain the rights, the ownership of that system, unlike the cameras we hear all about in the news. Its a subtle yet important difference, especially to us as hackers. Also, unlike the CCTV issue (and similar) the hackspace community has had this discussion.
As Tim says. And if you don't feel comfortable doing that, don't answer the door. Simple as really. You wouldn't let some random stranger into your home without checking if they should be there... why would you do the same at the hackspace?
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I've begun to question anybody who wants to get in through the front door if I'm the one to answer it. I think we all must adopt a firmer yet polite "you are not a member, I dont know you, I cannot let you in" attitude.
What do you do if someone says "I'm a member but (I left my card behind / my card is broken / my card was stolen)"?
If one were to consider a door policy, it probably boils down to swipe in, or something more fiddly if you don't have an oyster card. Would it be onerous to require all members to have an oyster card and register it?
Excellent. So it should be easy to get an accurate picture of how many members have registered oyster cards.
If one were to consider a door policy, it probably boils down to swipe in, or something more fiddly if you don't have an oyster card. Would it be onerous to require all members to have an oyster card and register it?
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Hi everybody,Yesterday night my laptop has been stolen in the workshop while I was talking with somebody. We think we saw the thief and even got his face on one of the CCTV camera. It is someone that has been here before. It is not a member, and we think he follows member through the main door when they are coming in or going out.The police might come to see the footage today (in the afternoon, I think) so don't freak out if you see policemen around the Hackspace.Cheers,Camille
> It was an honest question - there's no obvious way to tell if someone is a member or not when they knock.
This is true. But the majority of members will have oyster cards. The forgetting should happen sufficiently rarely that those members who are asked will hopefully appreciate the benefit of improved security.Do we have many members who don't have oyster cards? (at all, I mean, rather than just not having one on our member database)
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We need some sort of shibboleet
'Power user' - nice distinction
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Plan b:
Cameras on the doors. Motion triggered. Stored for a fortnite.
Plan c: everyone must wear labcoats.
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The padlock combination is not on the wiki at all because, as a publicly available resource, this would defeat the purpose of having a lock. And the wiki has a search function, y'know.
Or at least could someone put links on the front page to those pages?
You'll find the card and padlock code pages on the main website:
https://london.hackspace.org.uk/members
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You have to log in. There's a login for the site add a member, and another login to edit wiki pages.
Switch to a dual or two factor authentication system. The card plus a PIN. When you want to open the door, use your Oyster card and corresponding PIN, or, if forgotten, allow the use of a PIN alone.
However, with the number of users you have, this would be too easy to guess in a few goes, if any PIN would work, so tie it to membership number, or, only allow the PIN as a secret to confirm validity once inside the space - so if someone is let in, they have to punch in their PIN to confirm they're allowed in.
Anyone claiming to be a member who forgets both his card and PIN is clearly a chancer.
(The reason for adding the PIN to the usual card access is it stops anyone using a stolen card, but, more importantly, people cake then forget it because they would be using it on entry every time. )
Guys, this has been bugging me for a bit and I'm glad we've been discussing solutions to the problem. There's something that's been needling at me though - what if he, or his mates come back?
Its been a few days now, the initial surge has calmed down, but what concrete measures have we been put in place to prevent this happening again? What do we do if he pops up at the space again?
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I've been down to LHS about 4 times at Kramer st. to help out but never to the new more edgey space.
I would consider coming down & sorting the back gate or other security issues, but I'd charge money for it. That's my job, after all.
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Good grief, please take this conversation off list.
Mark