Behringer X32, any experience?

[Ashley]

Apologies for the somewhat off-topic nature of this question. I currently use a newer Yamaha analogue desk which has some basic DSP functionality which constantly freezes and renders the desk extremely unreliable. I'm tempted by the flexibility of the X32 both as a live and studio desk but wonder about its accessibility. Does anyone use one and if so could you share your experience? Are the iOS and Mac control apps accessible? Any limitations? Many thanks for any and all input.

[Jim Noseworthy]

Hello:

 

I don’t think you will find any joy in the apps for that device; at least, that is the case with the X18 and the XR18 ETC. As far is using the device from the physical controls, I cannot comment since the X18 has no controls but must be operated from an app or an X-touch controller.

 

The Behringer app itself is an iPad app and not an iPhone app.  There is some development on an iPhone app by another developer but, my communication with the developer is quite sparatic.

 

It’s a great rig though.

 

Cheers.

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[Steve Martin]

The behringer iPad app should be accessible. I think Someone just did a third party app for it on the PC thats accessible. I think some of the Studio live boards from PreSonus have a one button per feature layout so it maybe abit easier to use from just the board itself than the x32 Otherwise if you are willing to for go DSP and want a good analog board with good preamps and eq that also double as an audio interface the allen & Heath Zed R16 is worth a look or the Mackie 1640i if you want something less expensive. 

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[Goldfinga productions.]

The ipad app is mostly accessible. It’s kind of confusing if you don’t understand how the board itself works.

But I have the x32 producer, and love it!

 

GF

[Goldfinga productions.]

The x32 isn’t what you want to look for. People always get that mixed up. That board is like 3 grand or so. The one that most studio folks will want is the X32 producer. Same guts, just smaller frame, and about half the IO that you would get with the full sized X32.

 

As far as using it as a blind person. It’s totally useable. The only thing you will have to do is memorize menus. Most of us do that anyway with other gear, so you should be okay if you don’t have a problem with menus. There are apps being developed for windows and mac from what I hear, and they should help us out even more…

 

Derek Lane over on the reaper group has one, and he got me in to it. I won’t turn back.

I had a Yamaha 01V for 15 years, and this is the first mixer that I have purchased since 2001. I have had it for a few months now, and it’s the best thing I could have done for my rig. I can use it live with my PA, or here in the studio with my computer. Very flexible, and most everything on it can be accessed from the front panel. Even if a fader motor goes out on you, you can still control everything with the knobs that are under the screen. They control everything depending on what part of the mixer you are trying to control. They change to reflect what mode you are in.

I would recommend this board to anyone who has a home studio and about $1500 or so to invest in a good, quality, well-built mixer.

 

GF

 

 

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Subject: Behringer X32, any experience?

 

Apologies for the somewhat off-topic nature of this question. I currently use a newer Yamaha analogue desk which has some basic DSP functionality which constantly freezes and renders the desk extremely unreliable. I'm tempted by the flexibility of the X32 both as a live and studio desk but wonder about its accessibility. Does anyone use one and if so could you share your experience? Are the iOS and Mac control apps accessible? Any limitations? Many thanks for any and all input.

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[Ashley Cox]

Thanks for your replies, everyone. Will try to tackle all of the comments in 1 message;

GF: Thanks for sharing your experience. I was looking at the full-size X32 as I do want the full-size board with all the IO. I may add some stage boxes later if necessary but I was hoping to do as much in 1 board as possible. The producer looks like a good option but this will be primarily used as a live board, with the advantage that it’ll also work in the studio.

That said, given that the boards are basically the same. Are there a lot of menus to memorise, and are they consistent? My Yamaha board has a digital section (it’s basically an analogue board with some digital stuff bolted on), but its menus are inconsistent and change depending on selected options and connected IO so it can get pretty confusing.

Has anyone done an overview / walkthrough of the menus and board from a VI perspective? If not, is there anyone who would be willing to chuck something together?

A couple of you have mentioned 3rd party apps for Mac and PC. Can you offer any examples / have you tried any such apps? I did download the official Behringer app for Mac, but of course get a ‘no device connected’ windows and am unable to go any further. Judging by the lack of the usual zoom / minimise / close controls and the title bar, I’m guessing this probably isn’t a native Mac app anyway and thus wouldn’t be usable.

Thanks for any and all help. I do like the look of these boards; no manufacturer seems to make an analogue board with a decent 32x32 track interface, so it does look like I’ll have to go digital. I appreciate those of you sharing your experience.

Best,

Ashley

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[Jean-Philippe Rykiel]

GF.

I'm interested. A friend of mine, not blind, has the big one, not the producer one. One thing I found unpleasant with it, is that the pan pots were controlled by one of these endless knobs. That wouldn't be a problem if there was a way to put them back to centre but there was not, at least nothing nonvisual. Did this change with the producer version?

Are you using its mic preamps, how good are they?

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JPR

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[Jesse Kragiel]

I have two Producers at church, and they're super good boards, far more accessible to us than the Soundcraft Impact, the Yamaha TF, and the A&H QU! The iPad app isn't greatly accessible, but I use it for screen intensive things like assigning fx to busses, resetting pan controls, routing, and things like that. It takes a little experimentation, but I can do most anything I want independently between the hardware surface, and essentially using the iPad as a talking touch screen. The prices are coming down on them as well!

[Jesse Kragiel]

[Goldfinga productions.]

No. Unfortunatly when you change the pan, there is no way to snap back to center. There is, however a way on the XTouch. I don’t know why they don’t implement something like that on the x32Producer, they could very well assign one of the soft knobs to handle that. Maybe they will in an update or something? We shall see I guess.

 

GF

 

 

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GF.

[Goldfinga productions.]

And the mic preamps are awesome. That’s one reason I got this board.

 

GF

 

 

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GF.

[Ricky Prevatte]

I am seriously considering one of these type things possible. What all can be done with the iPad or with the screen of the Mac? So can we access presets, does the equalizer have the ability to tell what frequency and what all we are on?
What all will voice over let us do with iPad or computer? I know Derek loves his and Patrick speaks highly of his.
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[Steve Martin]

How is it handled on the X Touch?

[Goldfinga productions.]

I don’t think that mac can do anything, but the iPad app gives access to routing, fx, and setting up things like the eight assignable buttons. Im sure you can do other things with the iPad app as well, but I haven’t really dove in to that.

 

I also don’t think Patrick has the x32 producer.

 

GF

[Goldfinga productions.]

You press the knob and it snaps back to center.

GF