Leadership Summit Update

[Ryan Ozimek]

Hi folks,

As we move into a new leadership era, we all agree that ensuring the new leaders have a solid foundation to grow upon is a good idea.  In the past, when we've faced big changes in leadership, we've found it useful and important to meet in person.  This probably is one of those situations.

In discussing this topic in the recent Board of Directors meeting, we discussed some options that I think would be good to bring to the table.  Here's the takeaways from the points gathered.

1) An event on the dates of September 25, 26, and 27 would be a good date range for many reasons.

2) An event in central or northern Europe would also be wise.

3) Feedback from the structure team on the usefulness of this meeting would be good.

4) It would be good to use this opportunity to meet to discuss and complete the transition deliverables needed to ensure success for the new leadership team.

5) Utilizing one of the facilitators we've found successful in the past would be wise.

6) Considering summer vacations, past experience in timelines for deliverables within our teams, volunteer time, it would be good to push back the timeline for the transaction process to increase the likelihood of success of the transition.

That's what we've got.  We should make a decision on the scope, attendance, and timing of this summit by July 4th, so your feedback would be great.

Cheers,

Ryan

[Chris Davenport]

Hi Ryan,

I wouldn't want to preempt the decisions of the yet-to-be-formed Transition Team, but I very much approve of the idea of having a "transition meeting" to help us all get through the changes that lie ahead.  It's likely to be a stressful period for everyone and having that in-person contact for the critical changeover will, in my opinion, lessen the problems.  I also think that having a facilitator on board will be critical to the success of the meeting.

That said, I'd love to be there, but sadly I'm booked solid for pretty much the whole of September and I won't be able to make it on those dates.  So unless you can move it to October or late November, I'm not going to be able to join you.

All the best,

Chris.

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Hi Ryan, 

Maybe it's a case of the Mondays. Who is expected to attend? Current Leadership, Transition Team, or the New Leaders after the transition.

[Ronni Christiansen]

i would think of all leadership + any potential transition team members outside of leadership.

as i see it the concept is 3 days of working out the last kinks etc. in the transition and making sure its all ready and done.

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[Dianne Henning]

Please keep in mind that JWC15 happens November 6-8 in Bangalore, India and several LT members are on the organizing team. We will be there a few days ahead for set up and prep, and one day after for wrap-up meeting.

I think we always get a lot done when we are face-to-face, and we have a lot to get through. I'm flexible with my schedule.  

Thanks, Ryan for setting this up, and my offer to help is still on the table. 

Dianne

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[Saurabh Shah]

I am flexible with my schedule and Join on any dates. I also agree with the Chris that having facilitator on board will be really helpful as well.

Thanks a lot Ryan for the heads up. Let's do this quick so we can plan for travel ahead of the time with cheaper tickets and visa process.

Regards,

Saurabh Shah

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Open Source Matters Inc.
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[Ruth Cheesley]

Thanks for organising this, I support the recommendations and I'll be able to attend as it stands currently.

Ruth

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[Robert Deutz]

I think it is a waste of time and money. Why we need to have all LT + transition team at one place to speak about how to remove ourselves? Instead of meet and speak, doing is what is needed. 

I don’t see real progress and all the timelines before the decision was made are already totally impossible follow. We now have June and the transition team is supposed to be in place mid August. OSM is now running on a 6 months term ending as far as I know in October. Is OSM extending there term again without any community involvement? The project is more or less paralyzed. CLT has only a few members left, too less to fulfill there duties and I don’t see that they add new members. OSM, I don’t know. There are a lot of people in the team most of them are non existent when it comes to do something for me. 

You will not make the transition with talking, we talked 18 months now it is time (for the ya sayers) to do.

Robert

[Ruth Cheesley]

Ryan,

I really appreciate all the work you put in for the proposed LT summit, however time is marching on and I'm sure others are having calendars fill up.  I personally am holding off booking transatlantic business flights because I need to know whether I need to divert to this event or not.

Can we please make a decision either way on this urgently and get dates into calendars if it is going to proceed?

Kind regards,

Ruth Cheesley

On 29 June 2015 at 16:11, Ryan Ozimek <ryan....@opensourcematters.org> wrote:

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[Alice Grevet]

Hi Ryan,

I think a leadership summit is a good idea and fully support it. I have an especially full month of September this year, and will not be able to attend any time during that month, but hope this event will happen. Thanks for taking the initiative to get it started.

Best regards,

Alice

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[Tessa Mero]

Thank you Ryan for your action on this. It's always appreciated (or ignored) ;-)

I think September would be a bit too early of a notice and it's one of the prime conference months. I'm sure most of us have travel obligations or family plans already planned for most of the year. And a lot of us have already burned vacation days by September, or saving their remaining vacation days for the Winter holidays, if there are any for that member.

I think if you make a plan for early 2016 (Jan-April, without overlapping any major events) that most of us (hopefully all) will be able to make arrangements.

Or, if it needs to be done ASAP,  maybe select a few team members (especially the ones who are able to travel) from each leadership team to have a summit and they can come back and report and discuss to the rest of the team. Not sure how efficient that would be.

Another option is making a list of dates/times and having people vote on what they could be available for so you can find the date that works most efficiently. The great thing about this alternative is it will move this idea forward as people will vote. And you can start planning when a date is selected. (Or should there be an official vote if a summit is needed at all, I'm sure there are a few who strongly disagree).

My two cents,

Tessa

[Ronni Christiansen]

I would suggest moving the LT summit to JWC15 - the new leadership (that is also quite less people than now and newly elected) should go and have a LT summit at JWC15 and help set the scene for their future Work.

Timewise i think its realistic to plan and organize it and on the same time i think its fiscally sound as we are talking alot less people + as JWC15 is going to be about celebtrating Jomllas 10th year birthday i think it would be fitting to also have leadership there.

At this point planning any LT summit for the old leadership does not make much sense - as the old leadership will be non-exsistant by the end of the year.

[David Jardin]

Didn't we have a discussion about combining LT summits with conferences and agreed to not do so for various reasons? Don't get me wrong, I think it's way smarter anyway, but I'm wondering a bit about this sudden change of mind?

Cheers,

David

[George Wilson]

I highly highly doubt the new leadership will be in place for JWC15 - the transition team haven't even be appointed or interviewed yet!

Kind Regards,

George

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 7:47:28 AM UTC+1, Ronni Christiansen wrote:

I would suggest moving the LT summit to JWC15 - the new leadership (that is also quite less people than now and newly elected) should go and have a LT summit at JWC15 and help set the scene for their future Work.

Timewise i think its realistic to plan and organize it and on the same time i think its fiscally sound as we are talking alot less people + as JWC15 is going to be about celebtrating Jomllas 10th year birthday i think it would be fitting to also have leadership there.

At this point planning any LT summit for the old leadership does not make much sense - as the old leadership will be non-exsistant by the end of the year.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:49 AM, Tessa Mero <tessa.mero@opensourcematters.org> wrote:

Thank you Ryan for your action on this. It's always appreciated (or ignored) ;-)

I think September would be a bit too early of a notice and it's one of the prime conference months. I'm sure most of us have travel obligations or family plans already planned for most of the year. And a lot of us have already burned vacation days by September, or saving their remaining vacation days for the Winter holidays, if there are any for that member.

I think if you make a plan for early 2016 (Jan-April, without overlapping any major events) that most of us (hopefully all) will be able to make arrangements.

Or, if it needs to be done ASAP,  maybe select a few team members (especially the ones who are able to travel) from each leadership team to have a summit and they can come back and report and discuss to the rest of the team. Not sure how efficient that would be.

Another option is making a list of dates/times and having people vote on what they could be available for so you can find the date that works most efficiently. The great thing about this alternative is it will move this idea forward as people will vote. And you can start planning when a date is selected. (Or should there be an official vote if a summit is needed at all, I'm sure there are a few who strongly disagree).

My two cents,

Tessa

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:04 AM, Alice Grevet <alice.grevet@community.joomla.org> wrote:

Hi Ryan,

I think a leadership summit is a good idea and fully support it. I have an especially full month of September this year, and will not be able to attend any time during that month, but hope this event will happen. Thanks for taking the initiative to get it started.

Best regards,

Alice

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Ruth Cheesley <ruth.cheesley@community.joomla.org> wrote:

Ryan,

I really appreciate all the work you put in for the proposed LT summit, however time is marching on and I'm sure others are having calendars fill up.  I personally am holding off booking transatlantic business flights because I need to know whether I need to divert to this event or not.

Can we please make a decision either way on this urgently and get dates into calendars if it is going to proceed?

Kind regards,

Ruth Cheesley

On 29 June 2015 at 16:11, Ryan Ozimek <ryan.ozimek@opensourcematters.org> wrote:

Hi folks,

As we move into a new leadership era, we all agree that ensuring the new leaders have a solid foundation to grow upon is a good idea.  In the past, when we've faced big changes in leadership, we've found it useful and important to meet in person.  This probably is one of those situations.

In discussing this topic in the recent Board of Directors meeting, we discussed some options that I think would be good to bring to the table.  Here's the takeaways from the points gathered.

1) An event on the dates of September 25, 26, and 27 would be a good date range for many reasons.

2) An event in central or northern Europe would also be wise.

3) Feedback from the structure team on the usefulness of this meeting would be good.

4) It would be good to use this opportunity to meet to discuss and complete the transition deliverables needed to ensure success for the new leadership team.

5) Utilizing one of the facilitators we've found successful in the past would be wise.

6) Considering summer vacations, past experience in timelines for deliverables within our teams, volunteer time, it would be good to push back the timeline for the transaction process to increase the likelihood of success of the transition.

That's what we've got.  We should make a decision on the scope, attendance, and timing of this summit by July 4th, so your feedback would be great.

Cheers,

Ryan

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[Ronni Christiansen]

Yeah we did David - we absolutely did - but the scheduled weekend is in 6-7 weeks now - and i dont know about the rest of you but planning to take out half a week and going away is getting very very hard - on top of that the question was raised that if this is going to be close to the election and thus a new Leadership will be in place shortly after - does it make sense to even hold the LT summit in this format?

Wouldnt it be smarter to send the new OSM to JWC15 instead (its less than half the people - and i am sure serveral already planned).

Goerge: All the timeplans etc. is set for the election to be before.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:31 PM, George Wilson <george...@community.joomla.org> wrote:

I highly highly doubt the new leadership will be in place for JWC15 - the transition team haven't even be appointed or interviewed yet!

Kind Regards,

George

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 7:47:28 AM UTC+1, Ronni Christiansen wrote:

I would suggest moving the LT summit to JWC15 - the new leadership (that is also quite less people than now and newly elected) should go and have a LT summit at JWC15 and help set the scene for their future Work.

Timewise i think its realistic to plan and organize it and on the same time i think its fiscally sound as we are talking alot less people + as JWC15 is going to be about celebtrating Jomllas 10th year birthday i think it would be fitting to also have leadership there.

At this point planning any LT summit for the old leadership does not make much sense - as the old leadership will be non-exsistant by the end of the year.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 4:49 AM, Tessa Mero <tessa...@opensourcematters.org> wrote:

Thank you Ryan for your action on this. It's always appreciated (or ignored) ;-)

I think September would be a bit too early of a notice and it's one of the prime conference months. I'm sure most of us have travel obligations or family plans already planned for most of the year. And a lot of us have already burned vacation days by September, or saving their remaining vacation days for the Winter holidays, if there are any for that member.

I think if you make a plan for early 2016 (Jan-April, without overlapping any major events) that most of us (hopefully all) will be able to make arrangements.

Or, if it needs to be done ASAP,  maybe select a few team members (especially the ones who are able to travel) from each leadership team to have a summit and they can come back and report and discuss to the rest of the team. Not sure how efficient that would be.

Another option is making a list of dates/times and having people vote on what they could be available for so you can find the date that works most efficiently. The great thing about this alternative is it will move this idea forward as people will vote. And you can start planning when a date is selected. (Or should there be an official vote if a summit is needed at all, I'm sure there are a few who strongly disagree).

My two cents,

Tessa

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[Robert Deutz]

When "All the timeplans etc. is set for the election to be before." why we need a transition team?

[Ronni Christiansen]

Sorry Robert was this a real question or just the normal retorical stuff? 

If it was a real question then - yes the timeplan for the transition team etc. and everything that was setup was aimed at getting a new election done before JWC15.

[George Wilson]

Ronni,

The structure teams plan was to have the transition team announced on July 9th https://groups.google.com/d/msg/joomla-leadership/VU_6LCj388Q/4DNYGy_wNnAJ

Currently we're now at the point where the announcement of the teams is going to be the end of this month http://community.joomla.org/blogs/leadership/1869-call-for-transition-team-nominations-july-2015.html (for a variety of reasons). Assuming even this goes to time that leaves less than two months for a full transition team to set itself up and organise itself, devise and plan AND for elections to be held. People on the new leadership team are also then going to need to travel to India at less than 2 months notice (think having vaccinations and that kinda thing). At this point that target is clearly not feasible

Kind Regards,

George

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 3:31:54 PM UTC+1, Ronni Christiansen wrote:

Sorry Robert was this a real question or just the normal retorical stuff? 

If it was a real question then - yes the timeplan for the transition team etc. and everything that was setup was aimed at getting a new election done before JWC15.

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Robert Deutz <robert.deutz@community.joomla.org> wrote:

When "All the timeplans etc. is set for the election to be before." why we need a transition team?

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Ronni Christiansen <ronni.christiansen@opensourcematters.org> wrote:

Yeah we did David - we absolutely did - but the scheduled weekend is in 6-7 weeks now - and i dont know about the rest of you but planning to take out half a week and going away is getting very very hard - on top of that the question was raised that if this is going to be close to the election and thus a new Leadership will be in place shortly after - does it make sense to even hold the LT summit in this format?

Wouldnt it be smarter to send the new OSM to JWC15 instead (its less than half the people - and i am sure serveral already planned).

Goerge: All the timeplans etc. is set for the election to be before.

George

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[Ronni Christiansen]

Might be - i know that the structure team called for a meeting with a doodle to try and speed up things but we did not get any dates from half the team.

As for the transition team - some people where complainting that the process of nomination was happening in the vacation time so we agreed on expanding it some.

Personally i think we are about there where we should maybe consider entirely dropping the transition plan and go straight to a vote and and get the new leadership in place asap - it does not look like the current leadership structure has much success in working constructively together on moving forward.

Its a little mindblowing that CLT and OSM never has any objections or inputs or nothing to PLT does or plans but lately PLT surely is having a lot of input and objections to what comes from CLT and OSM - we used to be 3 LT's which each our area and then as everything and its mother started to had liaisons the need for a new structure became quite clear - its clearer than ever that the current structure really needs to be changed - so if i where deciding i would drasticly speed up the process and get it over with.

Hopefully the working groups members leaders will elect some new leadership members that are constructively working together :)

Ps. in case its not clear let me spell it out - if people want things to progress and take part constructively i would suggest also finding 3 team members to take part in the work being done and make sure we move forward.

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Ronni,

The structure teams plan was to have the transition team announced on July 9th https://groups.google.com/d/msg/joomla-leadership/VU_6LCj388Q/4DNYGy_wNnAJ

Currently we're now at the point where the announcement of the teams is going to be the end of this month http://community.joomla.org/blogs/leadership/1869-call-for-transition-team-nominations-july-2015.html (for a variety of reasons). Assuming even this goes to time that leaves less than two months for a full transition team to set itself up and organise itself, devise and plan AND for elections to be held. People on the new leadership team are also then going to need to travel to India at less than 2 months notice (think having vaccinations and that kinda thing). At this point that target is clearly not feasible

Kind Regards,

George

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 3:31:54 PM UTC+1, Ronni Christiansen wrote:

Sorry Robert was this a real question or just the normal retorical stuff? 

If it was a real question then - yes the timeplan for the transition team etc. and everything that was setup was aimed at getting a new election done before JWC15.

George

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[Robert Deutz]

There was a question mark at the end so, yes, it is a real question. 

I don't see any progress or these work is done in the dark, no reporting. The form for transition team suggestion should have been closed by the end of last months, it is still open. As George pointed out, no interviews for the transition team, a 1/4 of the August is already gone, so I have my doubts that the team will be set up by the end of this month. 

As some people said we should have setup the transition process before we vote on the structure change, so that we are not falling into a gap. The situation now is that we haven't seen meeting minutes from OSM since April. Last CLT meeting minutes are from Feb. this year. 

I am part of the internal lists and I have not absolutely no idea what is going on besides the PLT stuff. The structure change was labeled with more transparency and the team that pushed this most was OSM, how that fit's together. 

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 4:41 PM, George Wilson <george...@community.joomla.org> wrote:

Ronni,

The structure teams plan was to have the transition team announced on July 9th https://groups.google.com/d/msg/joomla-leadership/VU_6LCj388Q/4DNYGy_wNnAJ

Currently we're now at the point where the announcement of the teams is going to be the end of this month http://community.joomla.org/blogs/leadership/1869-call-for-transition-team-nominations-july-2015.html (for a variety of reasons). Assuming even this goes to time that leaves less than two months for a full transition team to set itself up and organise itself, devise and plan AND for elections to be held. People on the new leadership team are also then going to need to travel to India at less than 2 months notice (think having vaccinations and that kinda thing). At this point that target is clearly not feasible

Kind Regards,

George

On Friday, August 7, 2015 at 3:31:54 PM UTC+1, Ronni Christiansen wrote:

Sorry Robert was this a real question or just the normal retorical stuff? 

If it was a real question then - yes the timeplan for the transition team etc. and everything that was setup was aimed at getting a new election done before JWC15.

George

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[Ronni Christiansen]

Most of whats going on is vacation time - people complainted that it was not ok to do it all in the vacation time and we listend to the feedback.

I know we are done with our vacation but all of south europe etc. is closed down for 2-3 weeks more.

So maybe at the end of august we can start to move somewhere again - i will hope that and hopefully very quickly.

[Robert Deutz]

Ronni, how you will make elections without having setup the structure? Wasn't the new structure bottom up? 

[Chris Davenport]

I think the decision on whether to have a Leadership Team Summit or not and on what form it should take, should be left to the Transition Team.

Chris.

[Ronni Christiansen]

Yeah fully agreed Chris.

Robert: I wrote that in my personal opinion i am about at a point where i think having a new election to form a coherent and operational leadership in 1 team that can work together is better than spending months on transition - i dont know how your strategy to block things has nothing to do with being either top or bottom down or up - its just obstruction at all levels.

If you want to help out making Things Progress then get your LT to appoint 3 members who can join the structure team and help to finish the Work and get the transition team in play.

[Robert Deutz]

And who votes on that team? Maybe the only legal entity OSM? 

Btw. I think now it really get's funny, how do I block? I am not standing in the way of the transition, I was pretty clear from the beginning saying that the people that supported the change are responsible for the implementation. Now you don't get it sorted out, you are crying out for help. It is easy to write long documents, but now the bloody work had to be done and that is far from fun. Great chance to show how you and the structure team stands behind the change.

[Ronni Christiansen]

Actually since day 1 PLT appointed 3 members to the structure team - as well did OSM and CLT - thats what all of leadership decided together was the process.

You had and have via your PLT membership full access to take part in the work done.

Its always easier to point fingers from the outside - when you in reality have nothing to offer - then it is do to the work - writing documents etc. does take up a long time and those 10-12 LT members that has taken part in that from JAB14 "Make it happen" until now deserve full respect for doing so - their is no reason for belittling their efforts.

There implementation will happen - do not doubt it - but if you are so busy to yell at any and every stone, then perhaps my suggestion would be to go from complainting and into constructive working mode.

[Robert Deutz]

I am doing constructive work [1], you might be to busy blabeling and telling everything is fine and we don't have problems to see it. So what is OSM doing, just tell me, I can't know because -as I said sooner- no reports since April? I am really curious, OSM has 10 people on list. 

From the PLT side I can tell you we are busy making these software thing you might have heard about, because if we FU with that your great new structure has nothing to manage.

[1] https://github.com/joomla-extensions/install-from-web-client/releases/tag/2.0.0

[Tessa Mero]

Hi All,

I read a few articles on transitioning medium to large sized organizations. I found this article (PDF Link) rather interesting. It interviews 30,000 leadership members of different organizations who's restructured their organizations, and used data based off of that.
http://www.executiveboard.com/exbd-resources/pdf/leadership-transition/High-Impact%20Leadership%20Transitions.pdfhttp://www.executiveboard.com/exbd-resources/pdf/leadership-transition/High-Impact%20Leadership%20Transitions.pdf

It discusses success and failure points and the time it takes for each transitional stage, which is rather interesting.

Thought this may be helpful in some way. And if you already read it, please disregard it! :)

Tessa

[Ronni Christiansen]

There is some really interesting reading in there Tessa - however some of it is hard to transfer to our organization.

OSM, PLT and CLT has been working very well - on their own or in their own - the problems arises when the organization grows and then suddenly the need for the intermanagement between the 3 teams and the organization posses a problem.

So if we dont assess OSM, PLT or CLT on its own - but the combined ability to lead as a unit i think we are closest to the Train Wreck situation - including all of those riscs and costs there is involved, also in terms of effeciency etc.

To really move forward we should agree on working on it together, the vote is over, its happening and now we need people to step up and help to make it happen.

Once the transition is done - we will all move forward again - but as long as we are in the transition its not very effecient or productive.

[Tessa Mero]

Ronni, the first step for making it successful and everyone working together efficiently is for all of us to not point fingers. I read somewhere with fingers pointing at PLT for not being on board, and I definitely didn't appreciate that comment, as we have been more than on board, but wanted to address some questions/concerns, which most have been answered.

The point of the document I linked had a few points I wanted to show:

• The most successful organization transitions had community support
• Defines strategic priorities and executes on transition initiatives
• More successful transitions involve team leaders/existing leaders working with the "new" coordinator to communicate any feedback/ideas/strategies before their positions are collapsed.
  
• Pointing out that hiring a 3rd party company that specializes in transitions decreases the chance of the organization failing during the transition period

The reason why we are heading towards the "Train Wreck" transition type, is because of the lack of a very clear vision. It's no one in particulars fault and we are all volunteers, so I can see how it is very difficult to stay on track.

I see this whole process being successful, if we do the following:

• Transition Team successfully is put together immediately (if you cannot find people, there's 3rd party companies, or we can simply not proceed). My apologies if there is already a team put together. I must have missed a read somewhere.
• Not spend our time going back and forth on emails. Maybe use the opportunity for some kind of FAQ page, because it's easy to miss some important questions that were answered through a long email thread. This will open up communication and transparency.
• Keep people focused on the end result and not wondering about what we should do now.
• Leadership should not be bickering at each other, but rather seeing how we can help each other through the process and how we can each add value.
• Transition Teams can become very strong if it involves more community and few leaders from every area (which is already mentioned in the call for volunteer document, well done)
• A transition document rough draft should be put together with a very clear vision on how the plan will be done. Why the change is being made.... and how people will fit into the structure. It should be made public and available for comments as well an announcements being made. If it's behind closed doors until the final draft, there's going to be issues with transparency.
• There's going to be people who want to put this to a stop and we seem to stay focused on the negative rather than focus on priorities and goals. We have to understand we all have differences in opinions, which is fine. We shouldn't get upset at each other but rather just understand different perspectives.
• The progress of the transition process should all be in very laid out milestones for the community to see.

I am confident that if things are all very open and public, there will be more people rooting and cheering as it goes on.

Rarely do I write long emails, but to respond effectively wouldn't be another long email back to me, but yet a "Next Step" plan. Rushing people to India without any plans or milestones or even any kind of transition process I don't see being a next step plan at this exact stage we're in.

Tessa

[Ronni Christiansen]

I think you pretty much highligted what the structure team was aiming for with the plan of a transition team that was "clear" out of the previous proces.

So you wont hear any objections from me at all.

The current phase is the one where people can nominate persons or selfnominate to the transition team - this has been extended due to vacation time after requests from the community (which considering the wish to have the transition team well founded in the community i am sure you are onboard with).

Now i dont think that there is lack of vision or direction for what the new structure reform is about - its actually very clear - it is however not shared by all and i think that is perhaps where you find the biggest challenges.

The structure team now has the task of going through the nominations and vetting process and assemble the transition team - which will then take over and start the transition and implementation proces

You can read about the process as previously published here -> http://community.joomla.org/blogs/leadership/1869-call-for-transition-team-nominations-july-2015.html

The topic of this thread is the planning of a LT summit at the end of September for the current leadership - what i wrote was that given how short time there is to it now and the lack of purpose for the current leadership it might make more sense to spent the time getting the transition process in play and then let the new leadership meetup at JWC15 instead and continue from there.

Ps. long constructive emails are great so a big thumbs up for that.

[Ryan Ozimek]

Hi everyone,

In our recent board of directors meeting, it was brought to my attention that there wasn't enough clarity on this topic.  We agreed that it would be wise for the future leadership team to determine when, where, and how they want to meet, rather than have that determined by the existing leadership team.  So, at this point, I believe it's best to officially put this topic to rest, and place it in the capable hands of our new leaders post-transition.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Cheers,

Ryan