Acanthaceae Fortnight : Dipteracanthus prostratus : Uttarakhand : 31MAR15 : AK-49

[Aarti S. Khale]

This and my earlier post, both have been identified as being the same by Rawat Ji..

In the earlier post, the flowers were single, where as there were many growing on one stem here.

Experts, kindly have a look.

Aarti

[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[Ushadi Micromini]

How large are these flowers length total and width across the petals

please

usha di

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[J.M. Garg]

Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Dr Bhatt Ji, 

Thanks for the suggested id.

I checked for it, doesn't seem to match my pictures. 

Dipteracanthus prostratus, identified by Rawat Ji should be the correct one, since he is familiar with the flora of that area.

Regards,

Aarti  

 

On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Dr V P Bhatt <vishw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Member of Bignoniaceae, Incarvillea arguta kindly check

[Ushadi Micromini]

please provide LINK s

NOT THREAD NUMBERS to your earlier diagnosed submissions

thanks

Usha di

ps you also have not responded to my 8 day old request

what's going on

usha di

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Usha Di,

Sorry to have missed replying earlier.

These are the only pictures and details I have.

Since I am travelling, unable to check my mails regularly

Regards,

Aarti

[surajitkoley]

I think Rawat Sir is one of our experts' experts.

However, I would request Rawat Sir to check probability of Ruellia ciliatiflora  Hook. The links that might provide information on the species are -

1. http://www.plantillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=892828
   
2. http://www.botanicus.org/page/466430

Thank you

Regards

[Aarti S. Khale]

Surajit Ji,

Thanks for the links.

Hope to get it identified.

Regards,

Aarti

[D.S Rawat]

Aarti Ji
I am not an expert, and certainly not for Acanthaceae. I may have suggested similarity with D.prostratus. In fact I have not seen R.ciliatiflora.
An image of Ruillia ciliatiflora can be seen here.
DSRawat Pantnagar

[surajit koley]

Thank you very much Rawat Sir. I admit I was wrong guessing probability of R. ciliatiflora Hook. My guess was based on b/w illustration of plantillustrations.org and a herbarium; where flowers are in leafless panicle.

But this species can not be R. prostrata Poir. either; where flowers are solitary axillary and most importantly subtended by leaf like about 1 cm bracteoles.

If you have different version of description of R. prostrata Poir. please share.

Similarly, probability of other species like beddomei, cernua etc can be skipped. In that case this species would be something other than Ruellia.

I am really sorry for making this thread resurface without taking proper precautions. I reiterate this is species is not Ruellia prostrata Poir. unless there is entirely new version of the species documentation.

Thank you

Regards

surajit

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[surajit koley]

The only other genus I can think of is Asystasia, I would have suggested A. macrocarpa Nees (as per BSI checklist) but leaves are much smaller in the attached pics.

So, I fail to id this one..

Thank you

Regards

surajit koley

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[D.S Rawat]

This plant seems more closer to the ID suggested by Surajit Ji (R.ciliatiflora) than the ID suggested by me (Dipteracanthus prostratus) as it has terminal cluster of flowers than solitary axillary flower (as in D.prostratus). This species (R.ciliatiflora) is known in Uttarakhand.
The link for picture of R.ciliatiflora was added by me to further confirm the ID and not to rule out R.ciliatiflora. In the pics attached by Aarti Ji leaves are not visible.
The plant probably need a further examination by experts.

DSRawat Pantnagar

On Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 9:03:23 PM UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote:

[Aarti S. Khale]

Thanks Surajit Ji and Rawat Ji.

Regards,

Aarti

[surajit koley]

Thank you very much Sir for the feedback. Unfortunately I do not think R. ciliatiflora Hook. is viable. Because "Annals of the Missouri Botanical Garden, vol. 80: p. 811, fig. 11 (1993)" clearly states that Curtis' coloured illustration is correct. It also informs R. ciliatifolia Hook. is closely related to R. nudiflora complex. The species feature 10 mm calyx, 3.5-4.5 cm corolla. I think Aarti Ji's species has much smaller flower and doesn't look like a member of R. nudiflora complex.

However, thank you very much for the discussion. At least now we have KEY and description of American Ruellia!

Regards

surajit

[surajit koley]

No, Aarti Ji your plant is not R. ciliatiflora as I have stated in my previous mail sent minutes ago. Now, I would stress on Asystasia. You can see your flower has the form of A. gangetica. Don't rely in google search of Asystasia. I spent quite some time on finding correct Asystasia images of various species in the net. There is lots of mix-up over the net. What has been marked as A. macrocarpa in certain flickr account has other wrongly identified species. A. macrocarpa should be similar to gangetica I think.

We need to dig more to identify this particular species. Because, I do not know if any other genus, say Strobilanthes can have similar species.

Thank you

Regards

surajit koley

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[J.M. Garg]

Maybe R. ciliatiflora Hook. as per discussions at  Wild Flowers For ID : Uttarakhand : 140413 : AK-3  

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Garg Ji,

Thanks a lot.

Regards,

Aarti

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Acanthaceae member- Jim corbett 

Group discussion at

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding again for ID

Distributed as  Acanthaceae member- Jim corbett 

Group discussion at

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[Saroj Kasaju]

It is not 

Dipteracanthus prostratus  !

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

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[Aarti S. Khale]

Saroj Ji,

Thanks.

Hope to get the id resolved.

Regards,

Aarti