Hooghly : Eugenia sp. (JAAMROOL in Bengali)

[surajit koley]

Sir,

Very confusing data found on what will be the correct species ID of this plant. It is JAAMROOL in Bengali, produces white fruits, very common in villages.

Flora Indica describes  -

1) E. aquea R. - two varieties, one with rose coloured fruits and the other is white

2) E. alba R. - white shining fruits.... very insipid and quite watery.

The fruits (yet to develop) in this species are watery indeed!

"An English Index to the Plants of India" informs JAAMROOL/JAMRUL is E. alba. The malaccensis one is MALACCA-JAMROOL.

Photos were taken on 03/04/2013, in an orchard.

Regards,

[Pudji Widodo]

Dear Surajit Koley Ji,

It will be more clear if you send the images of the fruits.  To me, it is a hybrid of Syzygium aqueum and S. samarangense.  There are some intermediates between both species.  The flowers belong to S. aqueum but the leaves are almost similar to S. samarangense. In Indonesia, I found some cultivars of S. aqueum i.e.: 1) permanently white, 2) white then pink, 3) large pink, 4) small red, 5) large red to dark red.  Eugenia alba has been transferred to S. samarangense.  Syzygium malaccense has deep pink flowers.

Regards,
Pudji Widodo
Fakultas Biologi Universitas Jenderal Soedirman
PURWOKERTO 53122 INDONESIA

[surajitkoley]

Dear Pudji Ji,

Thank you very much for the details. Bimal Da also identifies this as Syzygium samarangense. Will try to get its fruits, to receive your view on the probability of a hybrid.

At the time of posting i read your comments in https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!topic/indiantreepix/5-1PXvdUq0U and in https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!topic/indiantreepix/na1ZxqC3GUE.

I noted Syzygium samarangense = Eugenia javanica Lamarck (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200014872 and http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?312990#syn) = E. alba Roxb. (http://ia600603.us.archive.org/BookReader/BookReaderImages.php?id=mobot21753000004415&itemPath=%2F33%2Fitems%2Fmobot21753000004415&server=ia600603.us.archive.org&page=n478_w285).

I thought the calyx in my species is elevated - https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!topic/indiantreepix/5-1PXvdUq0U.

Regards,

surajit

[surajit koley]

Dear Pudji Ji,

I have recorded another tree today. This tree (in the attached photos) might be the same as in the original plant in this thread (https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/laDMeV_WJ7g/36cgkM8Y7SkJ).

Thank you,

Regards,

surajit

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[surajit koley]

Attaching images of the fruits of this tree. Also attached below the note from Pudji Ji. I am thankful to him very much.

Regards,

surajit

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:153577] Re: Hooghly : Eugenia sp. (JAAMROOL in Bengali)
To: Pudji Widodo <pudji...@gmail.com>

Yes, Pudji Ji, you have said it, these fruits are astringent when young and sweet at maturity.

I seek your permission to forward this mail to the efI.

Thank you very very much.

Regards,

surajit

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 10:52 PM, Pudji Widodo <pudji...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Surajit Ji,

These last three pictures depict Syzygium samarangense we call them JAMBU semarang.  If the taste is astringent when young and sweet at maturity, then this must be S. samarangense.

With Regards,