Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Week: Gentianaceae: Gentiana coronata??? En-route Hampta Pass

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Prashant Awale

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Jul 3, 2012, 12:47:34 PM7/3/12
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Dear Friends,

Kindly Validate the ID.
Bot. name: Gentiana coronata???  
Family: Gentianaceae

Date/Time: 27-09-2010 / 01:45PM
Location: Balu ka Gera on the way to hampta Pass (Alt. approx. 12500 ft)
Habitat: Wild
Plant Habit: Herb.

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Prashant

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jul 3, 2012, 1:13:38 PM7/3/12
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Prashant ji
The corolla lacks fimbriae to qualify for G. coronata or G. carinata. This could be G. aquatica but leaves appear pointed.


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Prashant Awale

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Jul 4, 2012, 7:08:33 AM7/4/12
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Thanks Gurcharan Singh ji. I have very little idea about this sp. Thanks for the lead.
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Prashant

jmgarg1

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Jul 12, 2012, 5:19:58 PM7/12/12
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"Prashant ji
The corolla lacks fimbriae to qualify for G. coronata or G. carinata. This could be G. aquatica but leaves appear pointed." from Singh ji.
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jmgarg1

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Jul 21, 2012, 7:22:48 AM7/21/12
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"Prashant ji
The corolla lacks fimbriae to qualify for G. coronata or G. carinata. This could be G. aquatica but leaves appear pointed." from Singh ji.

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J.M. Garg

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Jul 26, 2014, 5:50:19 AM7/26/14
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Gentiana tubiflora (G.Don) Griseb. as per another thread.
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chrischa...@btinternet.com

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Nov 17, 2016, 7:42:43 AM11/17/16
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This is definitely not Gentiana tubiflora.  I will inspect these images more closely when time permits.  In the mean-time, I will shortly be posting an
image I took of the true G.tubiflora on the nearby Hampta Pass. 

J.M. Garg

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Nov 17, 2016, 7:47:06 AM11/17/16
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Thanks, Chadwell ji


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Gurcharan Singh

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Dec 20, 2016, 11:34:53 AM12/20/16
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Forwarded for ID
Suggested IDs G. coronata and G. tubiflora not supported.


Gurcharan Singh
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C CHADWELL

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Dec 20, 2016, 11:53:20 AM12/20/16
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Certainly not Gentiana tubiflora but Gentiana sensu lato needs a close look.  Likely to require some DAYS
to go through all the images I have (of my own) plus those on eFI properly.

Cannot meaningfully comment further at this point. 


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J.M. Garg

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Apr 11, 2018, 6:56:18 AM4/11/18
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Hi, Shabir ji,
As you are working on Western Himlayan Gentiana, may I request you to pl. help in this id.

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Mohd Shabir

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Apr 11, 2018, 8:29:50 AM4/11/18
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Hi,
The species is Gentiana coronata.

Gentiana carinata is reduced as synonym of Gentiana Coronata by some earlier worker such as Kusnezow (1906), Burkill (1907), Garg (1987). W

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Mohd Shabir

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Apr 11, 2018, 8:31:02 AM4/11/18
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Morphological variations exists within this species, our taxonomic circumscription yet to come later.

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 11, 2018, 8:33:53 AM4/11/18
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Thanks a lot, Shabir ji.

J.M. Garg

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Apr 11, 2018, 8:34:04 AM4/11/18
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Thanks a lot, Shabir ji.
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