Zizyphus for id , Koteshwar, Gujarat, Aug-2015

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Paresh Churi

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Sep 10, 2015, 1:40:02 AM9/10/15
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Hello everyone,

Please identify this shrub found near Koteshwar, Narayan Sarovar WLS, local people say its flowering & fruiting from December onwards.

Thanks in advance!

Paresh Churi.
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J.M. Garg

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Sep 18, 2015, 12:57:24 AM9/18/15
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Ziziphus species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net)                     


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Ushadi Micromini

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Sep 18, 2015, 12:59:08 AM9/18/15
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very nice
is there a local gujarati name ?
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surajit koley

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Sep 18, 2015, 2:55:10 AM9/18/15
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Thank you
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Paresh Churi

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Sep 21, 2015, 11:32:03 PM9/21/15
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Thank you all ,

Some people call it as "Bairoli" it has round medium size fruits, size similar to Z. xylopyrus fruits, even green colored fruits also tastes sweet.

Regards.

Ushadi Micromini

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Sep 22, 2015, 5:01:20 AM9/22/15
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Paresh
is that gujarati name for this fruit?

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Paresh Churi

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Sep 22, 2015, 9:49:35 AM9/22/15
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I am not sure, but the guy who told me the local name was seems to be Gujarati from his accent.

J.M. Garg

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Oct 5, 2015, 1:38:06 AM10/5/15
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Ziziphus species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net) 

very nice

is there a local gujarati name ?

usha di                         

Some people call it as "Bairoli" it has round medium size fruits, size similar to Z. xylopyrus fruits, even green colored fruits also tastes sweet.
Regards. 
Paresh
no idea, here is the BSI key - http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=4620&type=3

Thank you
Regards
surajit koley 

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Subject: [efloraofindia:231438] Zizyphus for id , Koteshwar, Gujarat, Aug-2015
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Paresh Churi

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Nov 17, 2015, 12:59:18 PM11/17/15
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From above link-------------------------

15. Ziziphus truncata Blatt. & Hallb. in J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 26: 234. 1918.

Small shrubs with divaricate branches; young parts chestnut coloured, downy; stipular spines 2, upto 1 cm long, tomentose at base, one straight and shorter, the other recurved. Leaves alternate, orbiculate, 1.5 -3.5 x 1 - 2.5 cm, subcordate, coriaceous, glabrous above, downy beneath, 3-nerved from base, apical truncate portion irregularly dentate; nerves extending up to apex; midrib with 2 - 3 equal, secondary veins; petioles 5 mm long. Cymes axillary, sessile, tomentose. Flowers 4 - 5 mm across; buds hemispherical; pedicels up to 4 mm long. Calyx lobes deltoid, 2 - 2 .5 mm long, acute, pubescent without, glabrous within. Petals spathulate, 1.5 -1 .8 mm long, cucullate, rounded at apex. Stamens 1.2 -1.6 mm long; filaments acicular. Disc 10-lobed with 10 furrows, glabrous. Ovary bicarpellary, superior; styles 2, connate up to the middle, divergent near the apex. Fruits globose, yellow when ripe. Seeds 1-2, compressed, black.

Fl. & Fr. : Oct. - March.

Distrib. India : On rocks. Rajasthan.

Notes. Z. truncata Blatt. & Hallb. is closely allied to Z. nummularia (Burm.f.) Wight & Arn. but differs in shape size and texture of leaves.

Experts please verify

J.M. Garg

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Nov 22, 2015, 9:53:45 AM11/22/15
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Ziziphus species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net) 

very nice
is there a local gujarati name ?

usha di                         

Some people call it as "Bairoli" it has round medium size fruits, size similar to Z. xylopyrus fruits, even green colored fruits also tastes sweet.
Regards. 
Paresh

Thank you
Regards
surajit koley 

From above link-------------------------

15. Ziziphus truncata Blatt. & Hallb. in J. Bombay Nat. Hist. Soc. 26: 234. 1918.

Small shrubs with divaricate branches; young parts chestnut coloured, downy; stipular spines 2, upto 1 cm long, tomentose at base, one straight and shorter, the other recurved. Leaves alternate, orbiculate, 1.5 -3.5 x 1 - 2.5 cm, subcordate, coriaceous, glabrous above, downy beneath, 3-nerved from base, apical truncate portion irregularly dentate; nerves extending up to apex; midrib with 2 - 3 equal, secondary veins; petioles 5 mm long. Cymes axillary, sessile, tomentose. Flowers 4 - 5 mm across; buds hemispherical; pedicels up to 4 mm long. Calyx lobes deltoid, 2 - 2 .5 mm long, acute, pubescent without, glabrous within. Petals spathulate, 1.5 -1 .8 mm long, cucullate, rounded at apex. Stamens 1.2 -1.6 mm long; filaments acicular. Disc 10-lobed with 10 furrows, glabrous. Ovary bicarpellary, superior; styles 2, connate up to the middle, divergent near the apex. Fruits globose, yellow when ripe. Seeds 1-2, compressed, black.

Fl. & Fr. : Oct. - March.

Distrib. India : On rocks. Rajasthan.

Notes. Z. truncata Blatt. & Hallb. is closely allied to Z. nummularia (Burm.f.) Wight & Arn. but differs in shape size and texture of leaves.

Experts please verify 
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 23, 2015, 8:36:40 PM11/23/15
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It's more than two months and no one there even to suggest a probability! Since leaves are not with apical truncate portion (+irregularly dentate) it is unlikely to be Z. truncata.

Better goes with Z. xylopyrus (a) (Retz.) WIlld.

Thank you
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Paresh Churi

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Nov 23, 2015, 9:35:33 PM11/23/15
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Surely not Z. xylopyrus, since I have seen it numerous times in field across India. It is something else.
Fruiting season Dec- Feb. as per info given by local people.

Satish N. Pardeshi

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Nov 23, 2015, 11:42:01 PM11/23/15
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Dear all
Going by the BSI key Provided by Surajit jee...it is not conclusive to mention the plant in concern is Z. truncata as inflorescence and other observation are required. the diagnostic character i found in this plant is the apiculate apex of leaves.
while workign on flora of Mumbai i observed that the juvenile plants of Zizuphus show much contrasting and varid characters as compared to mature plants.

inflorescence and other character are necessary for proper identification of this plant ..this is what i feel.

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