Fabaceae (Lathyrus sp.) for id

Ashutosh Sharma

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Mar 22, 2018, 11:35:18 PM3/22/18

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Respected members,
Please help to identify this Fabaceae , to me it looks some Lathyrus sp. but I can't find any matching species on the site .
Photographed at Hamirpur ,Himachal Pradesh
Altitude - 700metres amsl
Dated - 10/3/2018

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Ashutosh Sharma

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J.M. Garg

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Mar 23, 2018, 1:22:53 AM3/23/18

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Beautiful images, Ashutosh ji.

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ashutoshsharma11sn

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Mar 23, 2018, 6:11:24 AM3/23/18

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Thanks Garg ji

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Mar 26, 2018, 9:07:32 AM3/26/18

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Id still pending
Experts Please help

J.M. Garg

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Mar 26, 2018, 9:12:44 AM3/26/18

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Forwarding again for id pl.

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J.M. Garg

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Mar 27, 2018, 12:27:10 AM3/27/18

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Thanks, Vaneet ji.

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Lathyrus normally does not have this colour flowers...we could try Vicia.......moreover a request to yo

Ashutosh Sharma

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Mar 29, 2018, 11:47:50 AM3/29/18

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Thanks Vineet ji,
I also don't find any match on Vicia species page.
Please see the attached picture of seed pod.

Best regards
Ashutosh Sharma

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Thanks, Vaneet ji.

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Lathyrus normally does not have this colour flowers...we could try Vicia.......moreover a request to yo

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Forwarding again for id pl.

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Respected members,
Please help to identify this Fabaceae , to me it looks some Lathyrus sp. but I can't find any matching species on the site .
Photographed at Hamirpur ,Himachal Pradesh
Altitude - 700metres amsl
Dated - 10/3/2018

Best Regards
Ashutosh Sharma

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J.M. Garg

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Mar 29, 2018, 11:55:17 PM3/29/18

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Thanks, Ashutosh ji.

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J.M. Garg

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Apr 9, 2018, 2:48:55 AM4/9/18

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To me also appear close to Vicia species.

What are the species reported from Himachal ?

Pl. check with images at Vicia sativa subsp. nigra (L.) Ehrh.

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Apr 10, 2018, 12:04:28 AM4/10/18

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Thanks Garg ji
I don't think it to be Vicia sativa subsp. nigra as it only has 2 pair of long leaflets with larger stipules unlike V.sativa which has 5-6 pair of leaflets with much smaller stipules.

J.M. Garg

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Apr 10, 2018, 12:33:03 AM4/10/18

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Thanks, Ashutosh ji,

What are the other species reported from the area?

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Thanks Garg ji
I don't think it to be Vicia sativa subsp. nigra as it only has 2 pair of long leaflets with larger stipules unlike V.sativa which has 5-6 pair of leaflets with much smaller stipules.

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Apr 10, 2018, 1:20:30 PM4/10/18

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Sorry Garg sir is dont have flora of Himachal , I think Rawat sir may help.

J.M. Garg

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On Tue 10 Apr, 2018, 10:50 PM ashutoshsharma11sn, <ashutoshs...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry Garg sir is dont have flora of Himachal , I think Rawat sir may help.

D.S Rawat

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Apr 12, 2018, 3:23:23 AM4/12/18

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Viciaa bakeri, V. faba, V. hirsuta, V. pallida, V. rigidula, V. sativa, V. sepium, V. tenera, V. tenuifolia and V. tetrasperma are listed in Flora of Himachal Pradesh.

Lathyrus aphaca, L. emodii, L. erectus, L. humilis, L. pratensis,, L. sativus and Lathyrus sphaericus are listed in Flora of Himachal Pradesh.

DSRawat Pantnagar

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Apr 12, 2018, 3:37:28 AM4/12/18

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Thanks, Rawat ji.

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Ashutosh Sharma

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Apr 13, 2018, 12:36:16 PM4/13/18

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Thanks Garg sir

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Apr 13, 2018, 12:45:52 PM4/13/18

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Thanks Rawat sir .
But Garg sir I can't find any of these mentioned species matching.

Ashutosh Sharma

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Apr 17, 2018, 1:18:32 PM4/17/18

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Identification is still pending, experts please help to confirm.
Garg sir here is another one picture showing plants details including leaflets, stipules and a ripenned pod.

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Ashutosh Sharma

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Thanks Rawat sir .
But Garg sir I can't find any of these mentioned species matching.

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Apr 19, 2018, 1:01:01 AM4/19/18

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Please confirm the genus by following Flora of Pakistan (http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=316895) point 16; and then follow the keys. It may help.

DSRawat Pantnagar

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Apr 19, 2018, 1:57:55 AM4/19/18

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Thanks, Rawat ji.

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Jul 23, 2018, 10:50:35 AM7/23/18

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Finally I found the species
Its Vicia bithynica.
Synonyms - Lathyrus bithynicus
Description as well as images are matching.
In description it is mentioned that the leaves are more like those of Lathyrus and stipules are broad and toothed.Fruits are about 2.5-3cms long with 4-6seeds.

Here's description link
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/41686919#page/210/mode/1up
V.bithynica is also mentioned in Flora of Pakistan
Here's the link
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250065309

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Ashutosh Sharma

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Great, Ashutosh ji.

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Jul 23, 2018, 12:08:31 PM7/23/18

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Well done. Must be a new entry in eFI.

Known in India from J&K and HP only (http://www.legumes-online.net/ildis/aweb/td026/td_05288.htm)

DSRawat Pantnagar

Ashutosh Sharma

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Jul 23, 2018, 10:01:31 PM7/23/18

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Thanks Nidhan Singh sir, JM Garg sir and DS Rawat Sir.

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Thank you

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 9:34 PM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Great, Ashutosh ji.

On 23 July 2018 at 20:20, ashutoshsharma11sn <ashutoshs...@gmail.com> wrote:

Finally I found the species
Its Vicia bithynica.
Synonyms - Lathyrus bithynicus
Description as well as images are matching.
In description it is mentioned that the leaves are more like those of Lathyrus and stipules are broad and toothed.Fruits are about 2.5-3cms long with 4-6seeds.

Here's description link
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/page/41686919#page/210/mode/1up
V.bithynica is also mentioned in Flora of Pakistan
Here's the link
http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=250065309

Regards
Ashutosh Sharma

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