Hooghly : Cedrela toona Roxb.

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surajit koley

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Mar 14, 2013, 2:55:16 PM3/14/13
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The images at http://www.flickr.com/photos/72842252@N04/sets/72157630983724844/detail/ identify this species as Cedrela toona Roxb. (= Toona ciliata M.Roem.).
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Prashant Awale

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Mar 15, 2013, 12:30:01 AM3/15/13
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Nice set of photographs.
Regards
Prashant

On 3/15/13, surajit koley <surajitno...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> this species as *Cedrela toona* Roxb. (= *Toona ciliata*
> M.Roem.<http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/kew-2707264>
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surajit koley

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Mar 15, 2013, 1:37:21 PM3/15/13
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D.S Rawat

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Mar 16, 2013, 3:48:33 AM3/16/13
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Fine pics. Flowers seems quite robust. It has started blooming in Pantnagar (Uttarakhand) also.

DSRawat Pantnagar

Sukla Chanda

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Mar 16, 2013, 9:36:32 AM3/16/13
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Beautiful photographs Surajit ji. In this time you have not given the name in bengali script which I like very much!! Thanks :)
 
 
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Sukla

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Dr Pankaj Kumar

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Mar 16, 2013, 9:40:04 PM3/16/13
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Nice pics.
I imagine why you dont call it Toona cilliata M.Roem..
Pankaj

surajitkoley

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Mar 16, 2013, 10:08:11 PM3/16/13
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Thank you very much Sir, once again.
And again my mailbox didn't receive your mail!

Regards,
surajit

surajitkoley

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Mar 16, 2013, 10:19:36 PM3/16/13
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Good morning Madam

I am very sorry for not providing its Bengali names, the names are confusing though. The 'Bengal Plants', 'Flora Indica' and 'Hortus Suburbanus Calcuttensis' refer it as তুন (TOON). But, local people call it মহানিম (MAHAANEEM), though according to the 'Bengal Plants' MAHHANEEM is Melia azedarach L. Some people also call it as পাঁউ (PAU).

Thank you very much for appreciating.

Regards,
surajit

surajitkoley

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Mar 16, 2013, 10:22:21 PM3/16/13
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Good morning Pankaj Ji
Thank you very much, it's very nice to hear/read you again, after a short break :)

Regards,
surajit

Satish Phadke

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Mar 17, 2013, 12:56:39 PM3/17/13
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I was also wondering it as a different plant until I read Pankaj ji's mail.
As per GRIN as well as The plant List the name should be Toona ciliata.
Flora of Pakistan mentions it as Cedrela toona.
Good find of a robust plant with large beautiful inflorescences.
Dr Satish Phadke


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surajit koley

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Mar 17, 2013, 2:09:45 PM3/17/13
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Thank you very much Satish Sir.
One interesting point in the 'Bengal Plants' -

(i) leaves usually 7-jugately pinnate, panicles glabrous; sepals ovate-acute; capsule sub-globose...... ------ C. toona Roxb.
(ii) leaves usually 9-jugately pinnate; petiole long; panicles puberulous; sepals orbicular; capsule ellipsoid.... ------ C. microcarpa C. DC.

I was hesitant and wanted to go for the C. microcarpa.

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surajit

Sukla Chanda

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Mar 17, 2013, 9:41:04 PM3/17/13
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Thanks Surajit ji for providing its name in Bengali script.
 
Regards,
Sukla

surajit koley

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Mar 17, 2013, 10:25:58 PM3/17/13
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Good morning Madam

I am very happy to provide Bengali names. Earlier i skipped the names because during these three or four weeks i am very engaged in checking the answer scripts of our board exam!

A very happy week ahead to you, and all members.

Regards,
surajit


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Gurcharan Singh

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Mar 18, 2013, 4:16:12 AM3/18/13
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Surajit ji

the local name Mahanim is shared by three trees with similar looking pinnate leaves

Ailanthus excelsa in Oriya
Toona ciliata (Cedrella toona) in Hindi and Bengali
Melia azedarach in Bengali

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Sukla Saha

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Mar 18, 2013, 11:17:15 AM3/18/13
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Sir,
 
Thanks for elaborate our knowledge regarding Mahaneem.

 

Regards,
Sukla

surajit koley

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Mar 18, 2013, 1:53:22 PM3/18/13
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Thank you very much Sir for the interesting information on regional names of plants.

I haven't seen (didn't know) Ailanthus excelsa but 'Bengal Plant' also describes that it is MAHANIM (also GORMI-KAWAT) in Oriya. Neither Bengal Plants nor the Flora Indica gives any Bengali name for Ailanthus excelsa.

Regards,
surajit

Sukla Chanda

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Mar 18, 2013, 5:01:42 PM3/18/13
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Melia azedarach L. (Meliaceae) is also known as Ghora neem (Ghora meaning horse) in Bengal and Assam. But I don’t know its exact relationship with horses.

Regards,

Sukla

surajit koley

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Mar 18, 2013, 10:20:42 PM3/18/13
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Good morning Madam, Good morning Gurcharan Sir

Yes, Melia azedarach L.is also known as GHORA-NEEM in Bengali.
But, sometimes i think that actually it could be GORA-NEEM in older days. GORA in the sense of either Bigger or More (bitter tasted), as we have PATI-LEBU (NEBU) and GORA-LEBU (Citrus aurantifolia and C. medica).

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surajit
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