plant ID requested...

[Naresh Kumar]

Place: tamilnadu

[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Naresh ji,

Pl. also mention exact place and date. 

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Place: tamilnadu

[J.M. Garg]

OK. Naresh ji. 

On Thu 4 Oct, 2018, 6:23 PM Naresh Kumar, <nareshku...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't know exact date and time sir...

I shared from my friend.

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[Nambiyath Balakrishnan]

This plant appears to be Euphorbia thymifolia L., common throughout India.

N. P. Balakrishnan

4 Oct. 2018

[Ushadi Micromini]

Balakrishnanji

that dx works for me

usha di

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[Santhan P]

Andrographis serpyllifolia (Vahl) Wight - prostrate herb near Hosur, Bangalore area it if frequent.

On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 4:18:10 PM UTC+5:30, Naresh Kumar wrote:

Place: tamilnadu

[J.M. Garg]

Thanks a lot, Balakrishnan ji.

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[J.M. Garg]

Thanks, Santhan ji.

Identified as Euphorbia thymifolia L. by Balakrishnan ji. 

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[Ushadi Micromini]

but the round leaves bother me a lot

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[J.M. Garg]

Hi, Ushadi,

Balakrishnan ji is the Expert on this genus. 

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

I was puzzled with the lines "that dx works for me", particularly when this code was used for Balakrishnan Sir, who is my Ph. D. guide and a living legend in Indian Plant Taxonomy. Anyway, what does it mean?

Thank you.

[Ushadi Micromini]

oh oh i started a mutiny here with a bit arcane medical jargon?

i am glad you asked

and nice to know we have an authritatve voice in euphorbias here. 

Nice meeting you Dr.Balksrishan ji.

=

thats fine, Garg ji, it means i accept, agree, 

it means, Tapasda

picture was pointing me to euphorbia, but the roundish somewhat succulent looking leaves were bothering

me and i was pondering /intrigued  before anybody gave a diagnosis

and then when Dr B gave his dx, i said it works for me

it also means, i accept and treat the patient according to the consultant's opinion.

'''

went to sleep all non-intrigued, came back,

but the round leaf shape still was bothering me and i said so

more like it has been  intriguing me

so now tell me why should the round leaves not bother me

is there something i am overlooking

tell me, please

thank you

usha di

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[Dinesh Valke]

If I am not mistaking. the uploaded picture needs a 90 deg anticlockwise rotation.

Attaching what I feel is correct orientation.

Regards.

Dinesh

[Ushadi Micromini]

is it your picture or case, Dinesh?

usha di

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[Dinesh Valke]

Ushadi - it is "the" picture attached to this post by Naresh Kumar ji in the first place. I have rotated it 90 degrees anticlockwise.

Regards.

Dinesh

[Tapas Chakrabarty]

Thank you Usha di,

So you went by diagnosis and prescription. Ha ha ha.

[Ushadi Micromini]

yes, Tapasda

i will also show you why i woke up with the intrigue

look at flora of karnataka page

the leaves are not roundish

http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ac.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=1685&cat=1

and these are screen shots from  flora of karnataka: herbarium JCB

from herbarium jcb

http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ac.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=1685&cat=1

 i see oblong leaves

they say oblong or elliptic oblong

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but i also subscribe to 

never say never

things happen thats not expected or written down

that why i think it works for me in such cases as this one picture case

and an authority speaks.

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 be well

and please convey all this to Dr. B.

he should not be offended. he is a  scientist, he will understand my intrigue/angst.

thanks

usha di

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[Ushadi Micromini]

oh!

thank you Dinesh

you did it to help me

usha di

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[Ushadi Micromini]

pictures are not showing up are they?

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[Nathan Taylor]

I agree that this is not Euphorbia.  Firstly, the leaves are symmetrical, which means that it is very unlikely that it belongs to Euphorbia subg. Chamaesyce sect. Anisophyllum (the current nomenclature for the Chamaesyce group based on the most recent phylogenetic evidence).  While I can't really rule out any other Euphorbias, prostrate growth is quite rare in Euphorbia except for section Anisophyllum.  Also, I know of no species within the group that is known from India that has leaves that broad and rounded (those of E. serpens can become suborbicular and perhaps even close to this shape, but are far smaller and the stems are hairless).

Regards,

Nathan Taylor

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[J.M. Garg]

I agree that this is not Euphorbia.  Firstly, the leaves are symmetrical, which means that it is very unlikely that it belongs to Euphorbia subg. Chamaesyce sect. Anisophyllum (the current nomenclature for the Chamaesyce group based on the most recent phylogenetic evidence).  While I can't really rule out any other Euphorbias, prostrate growth is quite rare in Euphorbia except for section Anisophyllum.  Also, I know of no species within the group that is known from India that has leaves that broad and rounded (those of E. serpens can become suborbicular and perhaps even close to this shape, but are far smaller and the stems are hairless).

Regards,

Nathan Taylor

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Euphorbia species ?- Tamilnadu

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as  Euphorbia species ?- Tamilnadu

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[Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan]

It is Andrographis serpyllifolia (Rottler ex Vahl) Wight

Thanks & regards

Dr. Santhan P

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[Paradesi Anjaneyulu]

Santhan sir is Correct, I too agree with him,

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