Please help me identify this plant

Wungrampha S

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Sep 28, 2018, 12:59:37 AM9/28/18

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The picture for this plant was taken from Rajasthan, Sambhar Lake area during September.

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 28, 2018, 1:01:46 AM9/28/18

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Thanks Wungrampha ji, for the wonderful images

On Fri 28 Sep, 2018, 10:29 AM Wungrampha S, <s.wung...@gmail.com> wrote:

The picture for this plant was taken from Rajasthan, Sambhar Lake area during September.

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Wungrampha S

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Sep 28, 2018, 1:05:14 AM9/28/18

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My pleasure.

With regards

S. Wungrampha

Ph.D. scholar

Stress Physiology and Plant Molecular Biology Lab

School of Life Sciences

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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 28, 2018, 2:17:46 AM9/28/18

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Please check for Sesuvium portulacastrum - sea purslane.

Regards.

Dinesh

Ushadi Micromini

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Sep 28, 2018, 2:27:06 AM9/28/18

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yes, Wungrampha

wow Dinesh

your pictures in FOI are superb

foragers in the western countries eat it

do people in india eat it? i wonder.

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On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Please check for Sesuvium portulacastrum - sea purslane.
Regards.
Dinesh

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My pleasure.
With regards

S. Wungrampha
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School of Life Sciences
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New Delhi, India
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Thanks Wungrampha ji, for the wonderful images

On Fri 28 Sep, 2018, 10:29 AM Wungrampha S, <s.wung...@gmail.com> wrote:

The picture for this plant was taken from Rajasthan, Sambhar Lake area during September.

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Dinesh Valke

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Sep 28, 2018, 4:29:56 AM9/28/18

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Thanks Dr Wungrampha.

You may simply call me Dinesh or Valke. I am not a doctor :)

Thanks Ushadi.

People in our country do eat it.

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Dinesh

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Sep 28, 2018, 9:22:17 AM9/28/18

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Thanks, Dinesh ji and Ushadi

Ushadi Micromini

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Sep 28, 2018, 9:47:23 AM9/28/18

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thanks Dinesh

then one more the ethnobotany for food in coastal communities

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 13, 2018, 6:28:01 AM10/13/18

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I do not why flowers here, look different from those at Sesuvium portulacastrum

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Oct 13, 2018, 6:29:15 AM10/13/18

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I do not know why flowers here, look different from those at Sesuvium portulacastrum

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From: Wungrampha S <s.wung...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 at 10:29
Subject: [efloraofindia:306031] Please help me identify this plant
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The picture for this plant was taken from Rajasthan, Sambhar Lake area during September.

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 13, 2018, 9:31:04 AM10/13/18

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Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 at 18:12, Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes it resembles Sessuvium but may be some other species, the bud is slightly different
thank you
A.Lalithamba

Ushadi Micromini

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Oct 13, 2018, 10:13:28 AM10/13/18

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seems closer to western sea purslane

Sesuvium verrucosum

https://garden.org/plants/photo/206050/

flower bud in this following picture resembles what is our current case

https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7130/6861246676_8b840a3b4d_b.jpg

https://farm8.static.flickr.com/7078/7007366177_63d8e57da9_b.jpg

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Lalithamba Avadhanam

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Oct 13, 2018, 11:11:54 AM10/13/18

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Thanks a lot.

yes it is

A.Lalithamba

Ushadi Micromini

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Oct 13, 2018, 1:48:15 PM10/13/18

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thank you , Lalithamba ji for the inspiration to look at the buds too,

i was mostly looking at the flowers.

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 15, 2018, 12:02:33 AM10/15/18

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I am more worried about the stamen like projections, these look different.

J.M. Garg

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Oct 16, 2018, 12:28:36 PM10/16/18

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Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

On Mon 15 Oct, 2018, 10:39 AM Lalithamba Avadhanam, <alali...@gmail.com> wrote:

Flower is not clear, staminodes are present in Sessuvium
A.Lalithamba

Ushadi Micromini

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Oct 16, 2018, 1:13:31 PM10/16/18

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it seems is one needs better macro shots

plus a dissection of parts and detailed bw drawings to scale

and if possible well represented herbarium pressing.

sure could be done

seems abundant for this little scheme, if site can be revisited

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Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Oct 17, 2018, 2:07:28 PM10/17/18

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Nice images.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

radha veach

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Oct 19, 2018, 9:33:25 AM10/19/18

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This looks like Sesuvium sesuvioides (Fenzl) Verdc., Aizoaceae

According to Dr M.M. Bhandari, author of Flora of the India Desert, this species is distributed in Pakistan, Saurashtra and Rajasthan.

He mentions that Sesuvium portulacastrum is not found in Rajasthan.

Sesuvium verrucosum is restricted to the south western part of the United States, Mexico and parts of South America.

regards

Radha

Wungrampha S

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Oct 19, 2018, 11:34:52 PM10/19/18

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Dear all,

I am the one putting up this picture for identification and this has led into several discussion. I wish I could have taken more pictures, close up. I am sorry about that. However, all your inputs are highly appreciated. I surely will acknowledge the eflora team on my Ph.D. thesis.

Thank you all

With regards

S. Wungrampha

Ph.D. scholar

Stress Physiology and Plant Molecular Biology Lab

School of Life Sciences

Jawaharlal Nehru University

New Delhi, India

110067

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Ushadi Micromini

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Oct 19, 2018, 11:44:02 PM10/19/18

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S. Wungrampha

what is your thesis all about

how is this one species related to what your research is all about?

tell us please!!

now. not when you are done

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J.M. Garg

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Oct 20, 2018, 7:51:29 AM10/20/18

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Thanks, Radha ji

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Oct 21, 2018, 2:53:39 AM10/21/18

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From: Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat 20 Oct, 2018, 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:308134] Re: Please help me identify this plant
To: jmgarg1 <jmg...@gmail.com>

Thank you

A.Lalithamba

J.M. Garg

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Nov 7, 2018, 2:47:11 AM11/7/18

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To me looks different from images of Sesuvium sesuvioides at

http://www.africanplants.senckenberg.de/root/index.php?page_id=78&id=7718#

http://www.southernafricanplants.net/plantdata_sub.php?Mspec_ID=5849
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=115353&flora_id=5

I feel it is closer to as per images of Sesuvium hydaspicum at

http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:58073-1#distribution-map

https://plants.jstor.org/compilation/sesuvium.hydaspicum

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J.M. Garg

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Nov 7, 2018, 3:56:57 AM11/7/18

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Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

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Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 14:07
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:306031] Please help me identify this plant
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The projections are staminodes, they are common in Amaranthaceae

A.Lalithamba

J.M. Garg

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Nov 8, 2018, 1:47:19 AM11/8/18

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Thanks a lot, Radha ji.

On Wed, 7 Nov 2018 at 21:37, radha veach <radha...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Garg ji,

You are right.
Earlier the two species were treated as synonyms. Recent research has clearly shown that the Indian plant is S. hydaspicum.

regards
Radha

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