23062014GS1 wood climber for ID from Karnal

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 23, 2014, 6:33:40 PM6/23/14
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Kindl help in the ID of this woody climber (Liana) photographed along Roadside in Karnal in September.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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surajitkoley

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Jun 23, 2014, 9:43:58 PM6/23/14
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Good morning Sir

Looks very similar to Operculina turpethum (L.) Silva Manso

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Nidhan Singh

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Jun 24, 2014, 1:37:47 AM6/24/14
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Yes, I agree with Surajit Ji..

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Dr. Nidhan Singh
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Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227

Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 24, 2014, 1:47:05 AM6/24/14
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Thanks a lot Surajit ji and Nidhan ji. And yes this should be a herbaceous climber. 

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089



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surajit koley

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Jun 24, 2014, 11:26:20 AM6/24/14
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Sir,

'Bengal Plants'. FBI and FI describe it as a perennial stout climber. I have pictures of dried stem. I think, if left undisturbed the base of stem can be woody. In fact a document claims it to be a 'woody vine'.

Thank you very much. Thank you Nidhan Sir.

Regards



Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 27, 2014, 12:17:52 PM6/27/14
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Lalawmkima Darlong (personal communication) has suggested Byttneria aspera Collb. (Sterculiaceae),  Looks more convincing.  


Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089


On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Lalawmkima Darlong <darl...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sir i think its Byttneria aspera Collb. (Sterculiaceae) 


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:

surajit koley

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Jun 27, 2014, 12:54:30 PM6/27/14
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Sir,

The docs/illustrations found in the following links do not support winged stem. Moreover, the leaves in the photographs seem to have 7  basal veins.

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 27, 2014, 7:30:12 PM6/27/14
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Thanks Surajit ji for useful analysis.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089


surajit koley

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Jun 27, 2014, 9:01:49 PM6/27/14
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Good morning Sir

I was wondering if Buettneria aspera Colebrooke in FBI or FoN is same as Byttneria grandiflora DC.! FBI informs it's a tree!

Thank you

Regards

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Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 27, 2014, 11:16:22 PM6/27/14
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Link I have given

Byttneria aspera (Chinese name: prickly fruit vine)


and this


Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089


surajit koley

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Jun 28, 2014, 11:03:53 AM6/28/14
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Yes, Sir, I have noted that in you earlier mail. My query was why it had been entered as a tree in FBI. I have found the answer in Haines (attached here).

Thank you

Regards

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Balkar Singh

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Jun 28, 2014, 12:16:45 PM6/28/14
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Sir No need to have any doubt. 101% Operculina turpethum. A highly important medicinal Plant Called as "Nishoth". This plant grow in plenty along roadside area in Panipat and Karnal Districts
Thanks 
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Dr Balkar Singh
Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology & 
Horticulture Incharge
Arya P G College, Panipat
Haryana-132103
09416262964

Gurcharan Singh

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Jun 28, 2014, 4:47:31 PM6/28/14
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Accepted Balkar ji if you are so sure.

Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089


Nidhan Singh

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Jun 28, 2014, 9:37:28 PM6/28/14
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I do agre with Balkar Ji, must be O. turpethum only..

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