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Savinaya Malve savimalve

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Sep 23, 2016, 8:12:56 AM9/23/16
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Please help with id of this shrub species.
Simple alternate, spines are present, captured at theerthalli taluk of Shivamogga district, Karnataka(July2016)
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N Arun Kumar

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Sep 23, 2016, 9:44:18 AM9/23/16
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Likely to be Flacourtia indica

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Savinaya Malve savimalve <savi...@gmail.com> wrote:
Please help with id of this shrub species.
Simple alternate, spines are present, captured at theerthalli taluk of Shivamogga district, Karnataka(July2016)

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J.M. Garg

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Sep 26, 2016, 3:26:44 AM9/26/16
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Likely to be Flacourtia indica - from Arun ji                                         

efi page on Flacourtia indica                                 


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Muthu Karthick

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Sep 27, 2016, 2:11:21 AM9/27/16
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Flacourtia indica has red fruits? I doubt this to be a some Maytenus sp.
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 3, 2016, 2:12:02 AM10/3/16
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Likely to be Flacourtia indica - from Arun ji                                         

efi page on Flacourtia indica                                 

Flacourtia indica has red fruits? I doubt this to be a some Maytenus sp. - from Muthu ji

Gymnosporia & Maytenus species in efi so far.



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Date: 23 September 2016 at 17:42
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 12, 2016, 1:33:20 AM10/12/16
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Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Likely to be Flacourtia indica - from Arun ji                                         

efi page on Flacourtia indica                                 

Flacourtia indica has red fruits? I doubt this to be a some Maytenus sp. - from Muthu ji

Gymnosporia & Maytenus species in efi so far.

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Date: 23 September 2016 at 17:42
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Please help with id of this shrub species.
Simple alternate, spines are present, captured at theerthalli taluk of Shivamogga district, Karnataka(July2016)

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Vijayasankar Raman

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Oct 12, 2016, 11:18:58 AM10/12/16
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I also think it is Flacourtia indica.
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J.M. Garg

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Oct 14, 2016, 2:18:59 AM10/14/16
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Could be Scolopia crenata (Wight & Arn.) Clos - Flacourtiaceae

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Tapas Chakrabarty

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Oct 14, 2016, 4:31:12 AM10/14/16
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1a.

Petals present                                                                               2    

  b.

Petals absent                                                                                4    

2a.

Flowers unisexual; petals with a scale at base inside  4. Hydnocarpus

  b.

Flowers bisexual; petals without scale at base inside                        3   

3a.

Trees, armed; leaves 3 - 5-plinerved at base; stamens many; fruits fleshy berries                                                               5. Scolopia

  b.

Trees unarmed; leaves pinnately veined; stamens 4-6; fruits dry capsules                                                                    3. Homalium

4a.

Flowers unisexual (plants usually dioecious); stamens numerous; fruits fleshy, indehiscent, baccate                                        2. Flacourtia

  b.

Flowers bisexual; stamens 8-10; fruits capsular                1. Casearia


If petals are present then Scolopia, if absent then Flacourtia.  The characters of the leaves suggest Flacourtia and if so then F. indica. This is however a suggestion only.

Tapas Chakrabarty

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Oct 15, 2016, 10:33:50 AM10/15/16
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Dr. Dinesh Shirodkar tells that this is not Flacourtia but Scolopia.

Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 4, 2021, 7:25:51 AM1/4/21
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Forwarding again for ID
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Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 4, 2021, 7:26:53 AM1/4/21
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Forwarding again for ID
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Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Jan 4, 2021, 7:52:01 AM1/4/21
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Closest I can guess is Flacourtia indica (Burm.f.) Merr.   FoPI
Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju

Gurcharan Singh

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Jan 4, 2021, 10:51:12 AM1/4/21
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Thanks Saroj ji




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Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 12, 2021, 7:13:00 AM11/12/21
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Forwarding again for ID
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 20, 2021, 5:15:31 AM11/20/21
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Hi, Savinaya ji,
Was it planted?
I think it should be Flacourtia inermis Roxb., if cultivated. 

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Savinaya M S

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Nov 21, 2021, 6:33:24 AM11/21/21
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Dear Sir, Its a wild species.. No doubt, it is F.indica.
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J.M. Garg

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Nov 21, 2021, 8:45:34 AM11/21/21
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But leaves look different and fruits are not of this colour in F.indica

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Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Dec 8, 2025, 2:32:52 AM12/8/25
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I guess Flacourtia indica (Burm.fil.) Merr. is the closest match.

Thank you
Saroj Kasaju
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