SK116SEP29-2016:ID

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear Members,

Sharing some pictures for ID shot at Nubra Valley on 21 August 2016.

Is it some sort of wild Jeera or Saunf??

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[chrischa...@btinternet.com]

Would have helped to be able to see foliage, particularly at base.  "Saunf" (Foeniculum vulgare) is cultivated on the plains to 2100m but not in Ladakh - I do not think there is a wild equivalent here.  Likewise "Jeera" (Cyminum cymium) is sparingly cultivated in gardens at lower levels but not Ladakh.  Again, I do not know of a wild equivalent.

It is certainly Apiaceae (formerly Umbelliferae) family.  I am speculating a bit but wonder about Carum carvi ('Caraway') which is very common in damp places in Ladakh to 4200m.  Occurs in W.Himalaya as forma gracile.  Can anyone confirm this or suggest different?  Apiaceae are often not easy to be sure about.

[J.M. Garg]

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Date: 3 Oct 2016 20:49
Subject: Re: SK116SEP29-2016:ID
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>, "C CHADWELL" <chrischa...@btinternet.com>
Cc:

Some Trachyspermum ??

On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 9:33 AM, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

Would have helped to be able to see foliage, particularly at base.  "Saunf" (Foeniculum vulgare) is cultivated on the plains to 2100m but not in Ladakh - I do not think there is a wild equivalent here.  Likewise "Jeera" (Cyminum cymium) is sparingly cultivated in gardens at lower levels but not Ladakh.  Again, I do not know of a wild equivalent. It is certainly Apiaceae (formerly Umbelliferae) family.  I am speculating a bit but wonder about Carum carvi ('Caraway') which is very common in damp places in Ladakh to 4200m.  Occurs in W.Himalaya as forma gracile.  Can anyone confirm this or suggest different?  Apiaceae are often not easy to be sure about.

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Some Trachyspermum ?? - from Saroj ji.

I think does not match with images of Carum carvi as per images herein Appears close to flowers of  Trachyspermum species as per images herein. Pl. also check with comparative images at ‎Apiaceae

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[Saroj Kasaju]

Sorry ! Could not!

[Saroj Kasaju]

Dear all,

I just remembered the scent was  something like Cumin, 

I guess it may be Carum carvi Linnaeus, Sp.

http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200015475

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

[C CHADWELL]

OK.  Scents/smells can be so important in confirming identifications in Apiaceae (Umbelliferae)

but without views of foliage and close-ups of mature fruits then difficult to do more than speculate. 

Best Wishes,

Chris Chadwell

81 Parlaunt Road 
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk

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From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>; C CHADWELL <chrischa...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Saturday, 15 October 2016, 17:28
Subject: Re: SK116SEP29-2016:ID

[J.M. Garg]

Re-surfacing for ID
Thank you.
@kasaj...@gmail.com

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[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Trachyspermum species ?- Nubra valley, Ladakh

Group discussion at

SK116SEP29-2016:ID (google.com)

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Distributed as Trachyspermum species ?- Nubra valley, Ladakh

Group discussion at

SK116SEP29-2016:ID (google.com)

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From: Saroj Kumar Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016 at 8:00:43 PM UTC+5:30
Subject: SK116SEP29-2016:ID

[Gurcharan Singh]

Forwarding for ID

Dr. Gurcharan Singh

Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
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[Saroj Kasaju]

Carum carvi L.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biopix.com%2Fcaraway-carum-carvi_photo-114157.aspx&psig=AOvVaw35xcQMxXWonwRpjPejeOli&ust=1752313128532000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCLisqqHBtI4DFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju