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Krishna Mohan

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Mar 19, 2019, 12:08:24 AM3/19/19
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Dear members, 

Id requested for this plant from Nagaon, Maharashtra.

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J.M. Garg

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Mar 19, 2019, 12:10:17 AM3/19/19
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I think some Solanum‎ species.

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Krishna Mohan

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Thank you so much.
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J.M. Garg

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Apr 4, 2019, 1:28:05 AM4/4/19
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

I think some Solanum‎ species - from me

 



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Apr 4, 2019, 4:01:07 AM4/4/19
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Thanks, Karmegam ji.

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 13:05, Natchimuthu Karmegam <kanishk...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Garg Ji,

Greetings of the day.

It appears to be Solanum pseudocapsicum.

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N. Karmegam.

J.M. Garg

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Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 13:25, Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com> wrote:
If it is a herb, it is Solanum nigrum; pod or calyx not clear
A.Lalithamba

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Krishna Mohan

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Apr 4, 2019, 4:31:20 AM4/4/19
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Thanks for all for your gracious ID suggestion.
regards
Krishna mohan

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Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

On Thu, 4 Apr 2019 at 13:25, Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com> wrote:
If it is a herb, it is Solanum nigrum; pod or calyx not clear
A.Lalithamba

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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

I think some Solanum‎ species - from me

 

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Dear members, 

Id requested for this plant from Nagaon, Maharashtra.

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Saroj Kumar Kasaju

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Apr 5, 2019, 3:26:28 AM4/5/19
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Solanum diphyllum L.




Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

J.M. Garg

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Thanks, Saroj ji.

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Apr 14, 2019, 5:50:49 AM4/14/19
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Thanks, Karmegam ji, for the id.
To me looks different from images at Solanum diphyllum & Solanum nigrum
Looks close as per images at Solanum pseudocapsicum
When were pictures clicked ?

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Apr 14, 2019, 7:09:38 AM4/14/19
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Thanks, Lalithamba ji.

On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 at 15:35, Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com> wrote:
yes Garg ji,  the leaf and flower are close to S, pseudocapsicum 
A.Lalithamba, 

Krishna Mohan

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Apr 14, 2019, 7:44:49 AM4/14/19
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It was captured on Feb 6th 2019
Krishna Mohan

On Sun, 14 Apr 2019 at 15:35, Lalithamba Avadhanam <alali...@gmail.com> wrote:
yes Garg ji,  the leaf and flower are close to S, pseudocapsicum 
A.Lalithamba, 

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dr.rakesh Singh

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Apr 14, 2019, 10:13:08 AM4/14/19
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Pair of big and small leaf can be seen ..........Solanum diphyllum 

J.M. Garg

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Lalithamba Avadhanam

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Apr 14, 2019, 10:47:22 AM4/14/19
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Thanks a lot. yes there are a pair of leaves; at upper nodes they are seen; I agree with you
A.Lalithamba 

Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 14, 2019, 10:59:36 AM4/14/19
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its leaves are wider than i remember in house plant once popular
as Jerusalem cherry or  S. pseudocapsicum

also this seems to have a variation in leaves sizes

as Saroj ji mentioned
look at S diphyllum as a strong possibility

oh, i just saw Dr Singh's opinion
okay then



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Dr. N. Karmegam

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Apr 15, 2019, 12:06:47 AM4/15/19
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Thank you one and all for your valuable suggestions in identifying the plant. 

For better comparison, I am herewith attaching some of the photos from my collection that may be useful.

Photos 1 & 2: Solanum pseudocapsicum
Place: Sirumalai Hills, Dindigul Dist., TN. 
Approx. 1100 masl
DoP: 07-08-2014

Photos 3, 4 & 5: Solanum diphyllum.
Place: Shervaroyan Hills, Salem Dist., TN. 
Approx. 1200 masl
DoP: Photos 3 &4: 30-11-2012; Photo 5: 15.12.2013.

Thank you 

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1. Solanum pseudocapsicum.jpg
2. Solanum pseudocapsicum.jpg
3. Solanum diphyllum.jpg
4. Solanum diphyllum.jpg
5. Solanum diphyllum.jpg

J.M. Garg

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Apr 15, 2019, 12:40:06 AM4/15/19
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I will go with Karmegam 's id of Solanum pseudocapsicum

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Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 15, 2019, 5:42:28 AM4/15/19
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you mean 
there is so much variation in the leaf size?

then the photographer must document it properly, eh??


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Krishna Mohan

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Apr 15, 2019, 6:06:09 AM4/15/19
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Dear Usha di,
Dear Usha di,
It didn't occur to my friend that such variation of leaf was to be documented when the photo was taken. I see that leaf size variation are very common Solanum diphyllum. But not in
Solanum pseudocapsicum. Is it an identification feature? Will document it properly when visiting the location again.
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Apr 15, 2019, 6:14:21 AM4/15/19
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ok

but Dr Karmegam's first two pictures are showing leaf size variation alright
but his leaves have wrinkly edges?

our current specimen has fresh lush green smooth edged leaves, even though it seems some size variation could be present.


i am floored
someone who has a large collection of this S. pseudocapsicum photos please show us

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Krishna Mohan

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Saroj Kasaju

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Apr 15, 2019, 6:54:02 AM4/15/19
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Any similarity to the link ?


Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju

Ushadi Micromini

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Apr 15, 2019, 9:30:10 AM4/15/19
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Thank you
S diphyllum with distinct small leaf accompanying  as in this paper
is not the problem
we have these growing in lower ganges delta as weeds sometimes

it is the s. pseudocapsicum leaves ..... the question.

also no rush 
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Mahadeswara

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Apr 15, 2019, 11:38:09 PM4/15/19
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Photographs of the flowers and fruits  are essential.  The photos of flowers are not clear.

Gurcharan Singh

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 Forwarding again for ID confirmation
Distributied as  Solanum pseudocapsicum ? 
It is S. diphyllum
Group discussion at

Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 14, 2020, 11:16:57 AM11/14/20
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   Forwarding again for ID confirmation
Distributied as  Solanum pseudocapsicum ? 
It is S. diphyllum
Group discussion at

1. Solanum pseudocapsicum.jpg
2. Solanum pseudocapsicum.jpg
3. Solanum diphyllum.jpg
4. Solanum diphyllum.jpg
5. Solanum diphyllum.jpg

Gurcharan Singh

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Nov 14, 2020, 11:19:04 AM11/14/20
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Yes 1 and 2 Solanum pseudocapsicum
rest S. diphyllum




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M Swamy

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Nov 14, 2020, 10:57:20 PM11/14/20
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I agree with Gurucharanji"s ID. 

J.M. Garg

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On further checking, I will go with Solanum diphyllum L., as per images and details herein. 

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Dear members, 

Id requested for this plant from Nagaon, Maharashtra.

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Feb 13, 2022, 10:26:51 AM2/13/22
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I too agree with you, Garg Ji,
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Saroj Kasaju

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Yes Mr. Garg !
Thank you.

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