Code writer

[Kabyr Rogi]

I am looking for good code editor. Preferably with brief-like features, like column marking etc

[Pritpal Bedi]

Hi

I am looking for good code editor. Preferably with brief-like features, like column marking etc

Look for HbIDE.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/qtcontribs

For help : http://hbide.vouch.info 

It is Harbour oriented code editor and project manager,

written in Harbour, for Harbour, with many Harbour specific goodies,

with powerful column editing features.

Pritpal Bedi

a student of software analysis & concepts

[Massimo Belgrano]

Hbide have column marking and other  feature

http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtcontribs/files/

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/qtcontribs

2014-11-27 16:56 GMT+01:00 Kabyr Rogi <mym...@gmail.com>:

I am looking for good code editor. Preferably with brief-like features, like column marking etc

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[Mario Rossi]

Hi,
try with SYNWRITE

http://www.uvviewsoft.com/synwrite/

[Qatan]

Hello Mario,

 

Seems interesting although I never heard of it before.

I assume you use it. Did you customize to use with Harbour? What did you do?

Do you mind to say more about this code editor?

I liked the Minimap feature although I prefer the “Sublime Text”  approach as one of the best and most pleasant. It is cool but misses a functions/procedures map on the right side (could be a switch with the Minimap)

Here is a list of some reviewed well known editors: http://tutorialzine.com/2012/07/battle-of-the-tools-which-is-the-best-code-editor/

In Harbour we have “HBIDE” that is pretty interesting and very complete although I do not use because I just need a simple lightweight and fast code editor.

I use “xDev Studio” that is also made for Harbour and it is freeware: http://www.vailton.com.br/index.php/artigos/item/86-xdevstudio but it also could have less options (like built in program compiler scripts, etc...) I like only the editor and project manager (the color schema is pleasant to me).

xEdit is interesting too: http://www.xailer.com/download?file=3  I used it for a while and it has a good integration with SQLite.

Thanks for sharing.

 

Thanks

 

Qatan

[Clippero]

http://www.contexteditor.org/index.php

[Qatan]

Hello Clippero,

 

It is also a good option with UTF-8 support - very light and simple.

I found someone explaining a bit about it.

Do you have Harbour syntax file for it or you use Foxpro syntax?

 

Qatan

 

 

From: Clippero

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http://www.contexteditor.org/index.php

[Mario Rossi]

Hi Qatan
in the DOS days I used the editor MELITE that allowed me to, among other things, to select, and then do a copy / paste, also of columns of source code. Moving on to Windows 64-bit I was forced to find another editor who approached to MELITE and through the FACEBOOK page of HARBOUR I happened to find SYNWRITE. At the beginning I had some doubts but then they found the keyboard shortcuts I just adopted without regrets. I have not studied thoroughly, but I can tell you what I scopertio so far:
1) For the syntax HARBOUR you can add it by selecting the menu item VIEW-LEXER. Unfortunately you do not find in the installed version, but you can add it; just copy the files HARBOUR.ACP, which I enclose, within the folder SYNWRYTE / HL.
2) For the keyboard shortcuts you should select the menu item and select OPTIONS-CUSTOMIZE-KEYS. However those that I use the most are the following:
- CTRL + D to duplicate a row or group of selected lines
- CTRL + Y to delete a line or group of selected lines
- ALT + ARROW (UP / DOWN) to move up / down the current line or selected
- SHIFT + ALT + ARROW (UP / DOWN / RIGHT / LEFT) to select text in columns (to select rows, obviously just use only SHIFT + ARROW (UP / DOWN)
- To COPY / PASTE is used, of course, the same key combination WINDOWS
- ALT + Backspace undo the changes made, obviously from the last) and within OPTIONS-CUSTOMIZE you can choose to cancel groups of changes or not (recommend you to read all the different options are endless. I, for one I also changed the background white screen that me weary eyes.)
- F2 saves the file
3) Another interesting thing is that if you select a group of rows and then click on the bullet markers that appears to the left of the last row selected, the block will change colors and all the changes that are made to a word in it, are made , automatically, in all other occurrences of the same word within the block (tap again to deselect the bullet markers). An example can be found here.
http://www.uvviewsoft.com/synwrite/images/SyncEdit.gif

At the moment I can not think of anything else.

I hope I was clear (I used google translate) and especially that I was helpful.
I remain at your disposal.

Hello and good day (at least to me it is day).

Il giorno giovedì 27 novembre 2014 16:56:48 UTC+1, Kabyr Rogi ha scritto:

[Maurizio la Cecilia]

Hi,

Il 29/11/2014 10:33, Mario Rossi ha scritto:

.....

1) For the syntax HARBOUR you can add it by selecting the menu item VIEW-LEXER. Unfortunately you do not find in the installed version, but you can add it; just copy the files HARBOUR.ACP, which I enclose, within the folder SYNWRYTE / HL.

AFAIR the correct folder to store the acp file is Synwrite/Data/autocomplete.

Another element to take in count for Synwrite evaluation is the availability of external tools that, after a short and simple configuration, allows an effective integration with hbmk2.
BR
Maurizio

[José Quintas]

A old good editor with things like this was IBM PE2, where we can configure each key using a simple keyboard programming language.
It exists a 32 bits clone version PE32.
I used too much the original 16 bits version.

But at momment I like Programmers Notepad.

José M. C. Quintas

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[Mario Rossi]

Hi,
in my installation does not exist subdirectory DATA (version 6.11.1680) but the editor works perfectly even if I copy the folder SYNWRITE in another PC without installation.

I noticed that you can add external tools but I did not understand what and how to use them. You give examples?

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[Maurizio la Cecilia]

Hi, I just tested and in the last SynWrite version (6.14.1835) the syntax isn't linked until you put the acp file in the data/autocomplete folder.
The changelog says:

6.13.1740

* folders change! Folder "Template" is now "Data"(remove old "Template" by hands-- if u don't want goback to 6.12). Folder "HL" not needed too(remove by hands)-- acp files gone to "Data\autocomplete", LXL file gone to Synw root.

About the external tools:
1. access configuration via the menu "Tools" and add something as:



The tool now appears in the same "Tools" menu, or you can add a button in a user toolbar.
The program help is very clear about this steps.
Ask me if needed some further help.
BR
Maurizio

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[Mario Rossi]

Hi Maurizio,
thanks for the reply and for example. I installed the new version and, of course, you're right in folder names.

For QATAN, following the changes made to the new version, for the syntax HARBOUR follow these steps:
1) Download the file to attach
2) Select the menu item OPTIONS-CUSTOMIZE LEXERS LYBRARY ..., select IMPORT FILE A LEXER FROM A FILE ... and open the downloaded file.
3) Select the menu item VIEW-LEXER-H-Horbour

4) END

[Francesco Perillo]

I used to use pe2... spent endless programming days and nights with it!

[Maurizio la Cecilia]

I born typing code with PE2.
It came (1987) with the first IBM-PC sold by my computer seller and was my only editor until 1995 and  over.
A robust piece of software suffering only because was working hard in RAM (I remember the message "Spill file created..." causing a wait state of few minutes with large source).
Amarcord (Fellini's movie telling about the memories).
Bye
Maurizio

[José Quintas]

Take a look here:

http://www.pe32.com/

José M. C. Quintas

[Qatan]

Hello Mario,

 

Thanks for sharing the configuration file and your experiences with this interesting editor.

I like to know about other editors.

Regards,

 

Qatan

 

 

From: Mario Rossi

Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 10:33 AM

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[Qatan]

Hello Maurizio,

 

I tried with the latest version (6.14.1835) and you are right about the location but I copied that and I can’t find it on the menu (View/LEXER)...

Is something that I am missing? Look the attached image of my screen showing both the folder and the program.

 

Thanks

 

Qatan

 

 

From: Maurizio la Cecilia

Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 11:05 AM

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[Qatan]

Hello Mario / Maurizio,

 

Now it works.

It is really an interesting editor..

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

 

Qatan

 

 

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[Qatan]

Talking about nostalgia... who remembers?:

• Sidekick 1.x: My favorite on the DOS times because it was in memory (TSR), I could check the ASCII table and I could capture/copy the screen. When 2.0 came I was stopping my programmers career...
• QEdit: The best until Windows came with other nice options

Qatan

 

 

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[Daniel Du Pré]

Qatan

Lo recuerdo perfectamente, tal es así que configuro en  mis nuevos editores de texto con la tecla F2 para salvar, ;)
Esa tecla estaba asignada en mi Sidekick de hace mas de 20 años atras para salvar la edición

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I remember it perfectly, so much so that I configure in my new text editors F2 to save   ;)
That key was assigned to my Sidekick for more than 20 years ago to save editing.


regards
Daniel

[Pete]

Just curious, nobody here has ever used ned.com?
A 32kb gem with which I have written 1000nds pure clipper code
in the past (circa 90's..) what wonder years..

[Qatan]

Hello Pete,

 

Sure! I used it although I really liked Sidekick and QEdit but when I needed to open a really big file only NED worked...

Some people will also remember “Aurora” (still available for 32 bits in beta version) with syntax highlighting.

 

Qatan

 

 

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[Clippero]

[Esp]

Yo uso la syntaxis de Clipper 5.2 sin problemas.

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I use the Clipper 5.2 syntaxis smoothly.

[Clippero]

Remember  XtreeGold

[Moshe Mordkovych]

Hi! I am still looking... Any new suggestions?

[M., Ronaldo]

Then look at:
http://www.ztree.com/html/ztreewin.htm

On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 8:46:15 AM UTC-2, Clippero wrote:

Remember  XtreeGold

[M., Ronaldo]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/notepad-plus/
https://www.textpad.com/
http://www.ultraedit.com/products/ultraedit.html
http://www.pspad.com/en/
http://macromates.com/
http://www.sublimetext.com/
http://www.pnotepad.org/

See more at ( with comments about each one ):
https://blog.profitbricks.com/top-49-source-code-editors/
http://digital.guide/best-10-free-source-code-editors-to-edit-code-easily-on-pc-software/753/?v=1

[jumppan...@gmail.com]

FWIW the Zeus IDE emulates the Brief keyboard mapping and has column marking and column editing.

It is scrip-table like the original Brief, but it is script-able in Python.

It also has limited support for Clipper/xBase languages.

[Qatan]

Hi Moshe,

 

*

Hi! I am still looking... Any new suggestions?

 

Some suggestions:

 

• https://atom.io/ https://atom.io/users/hernad
• http://www.jedit.org/ https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/harbour-users/-W93POuNtGQ
• http://www.geany.org/ https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/harbour-users/geany/harbour-users/gdYcgTBQBHQ/q9svnm8BBwAJ
• https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtcontribs/ http://hbide.vouch.info/
• https://www.sublimetext.com/ https://github.com/rafathefull/harbour

 

Qatan

 

[Gale Ford]

I used Brief way back in the day but moved to Multi Edit back in the 90's. It support over 50 languages include xBase. It has all of the Brief features including keyboard layout if you want. Includes all of the column manipulation features including upper/lower/first cap text, commenting, etc.
It comes with an add on called Evolve that includes xBase specific tools like DBF documenting, re-indent code, list constants (even from the #include), etc.
It has one of the best source code file compare tools I have found.

https://multieditsoftware.com/

[Alex Strickland]

On 2016-02-10 05:27 PM, Gale Ford wrote:

> https://multieditsoftware.com/

Yeah, I've tried to wean myself off multiedit a few times but I just
keep coming back.

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[Maurizio la Cecilia]

I discovered SynWrite ( http://www.uvviewsoft.com/synwrite/ ) thanks to Miguel Angel Juárez Apaza, and I'm comfortable with it.

It's free, it has a lexer for Harbour, a project manager and all the tools needed to launch hbmk2 and more.

It's highly customizable using a lot of plugins and has a full set of features.

I think that a look is mandatory before to adopt definitively the own code editor.

JM2C

Best regards.

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[Joel - Yahoo]

Hi,
I use MED. It support many language and xbase too.

http://www.utopia-planitia.de/indexus.html

Best regards,
Joe Bernardes

[Qatan]

*http://www.utopia-planitia.de/indexus.html

Interesting, has an OS/2 version...

[Qatan]

*http://www.uvviewsoft.com/synwrite/

 

Looks pretty good... and Cuda has OS/X and Linux versions.

Does Cuda has the same features of Syn or it is still in early dev?

 

 

[Nenad Batoćanin]

For me, a good editor and a good keyboard make up 90% of success :)

I used BRIEF many years ago, then Notepad++ and Sublime. Both are good editors, but I'm not completely satisfied. While I used the Notepad++ I had a problem with the code page: PRG having ASCII graphics characters are sometimes corrupted after savings. I do not like the Sublime search command, because always works as incremental search. System for automatic closing parenthesis does not always work the way I expect, work with multiple windows is pretty weak (my opinion). I plan to test the UltraEdit and MultiEdit, both editors at first glance looks excellent.

Regards, NB

[jumppan...@gmail.com]

> I used BRIEF many years ago, then Notepad++ and Sublime. Both are good editors, but I'm not completely satisfied.

FWIW Zeus has good BRIEF emulation (but it is not a 100% clone).

In fact some BRIEF users have said in some ways Zeus is actually better than BRIEF: http://www.zeusedit.com/awards.html

[Nenad Batoćanin]

I tried Zeus today. It looks very good (when I turned off everything except the main screen), recognized .PRG files; BRIEF emulation is good ... But!

In the first 5 minutes report two different internal errors (try F3, F3, F4 in BRIEF emu.mode). When an error occurs, does not allow exit from the program, I had to use the taskmanager :( The next session is collapsed without a visible reason, too. Search command always working in incremental mode. 

Maybe next time :)

Regards, NB

[Ash]

I have been using Crimson Editor for many years. It is a well rounded editor.

Regards.
Ash

[Nenad Batoćanin]

Regardless of the old fashion interface, it seems to work very well. But the development was stopped in 2008, unfortunately.

NB

[Moshe Mordkovych]

Zeus dont run - it gives some error. Have no time for such software, sorry

[Moshe Mordkovych]

Thanks!
Yes this one I am trying now
It doesnt have column manupulation. Or may I just overlooked it.

[jumppan...@gmail.com]

I'm sorry to read Zeus did not run correctly on your machine and I'm not really sure why it would not be working as expect :(

I tried replicating this by hiding everything, setting the keymap to Brief and hitting F3, F4, F3, F3, F4, stopping and re-starting Zeus, but for me it worked as expected.

[jumppan...@gmail.com]

> Zeus dont run - it gives some error.

The only know reasons for these types of problems are:

1) Some virus checkers (i.e. Bitdefender is a known culprit) incorrectly identify it as a virus.

2) Some people try running Zeus on server systems and it is stopped from running for DEP reasons (i.e. it crashes on startup or does not even start).

The DEP security settings on server machines are much tighter than for standard Windows client machines and this is the cause of the issue.

But it turns out those DEP issues easily fixed with some simple configuration changes: http://www.zeusedit.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6719&p=9886&hilit=server#p9886

[Nenad Batoćanin]

I installed Zeus again and over again the same error occurs. Open file, F3, F3, F4 and error always occurs. Here's a picture, ini, dmp and log files: 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwEGIJ1QfjrKamQ4OGhJQnhtbHM/view?usp=sharing

(Windows 7 Professional, MS Security, Windows classic theme)

Regards, NB

[jumppan...@gmail.com]

The fact that a dump file was created shows that this was a Zeus internal error, so there is no doubt you have found a bug.

I'll take a look at the crash dump to see if it highlights cause of the issue.

As a first guess I suspect this has something to do with the fact that you hid all the GUI elements other than the main editor window.

Something particular to that (rather unique) configuration has resulted in the issue.

But none the less this is is still a Zeus bug :(

[Nenad Batoćanin]

It is well known that there is no program without bugs :) I'm glad that I was useful.

Regards, NB

[jumppan...@gmail.com]

The crash dump has me confused as it says the crash happened when the IDE was closing?

When you say the F3,F4 commands you do mean the 'split current view', 'join current view' BRIEF commands don't you?

[JoséQuintas]

I use programmers notepad for a long time.
I do not know if can solve your needs.

It is slow for large files, as example today I edit a MySQL backup with more than 3.5 million lines, and was too slow to save.

José M. C. Quintas

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[Nenad Batoćanin]

I did exactly the following:

- start Zeus

- Open some file

- hit F3

- F3 again

- F4 -> err

If necessary, I suggest that we continue the communication via mail. 

Regards, NB

[jumppan...@gmail.com]

very happy to take this offline and use e-mail.

You have certainly found a bug and I don't like bugs ;)

I'll send you a private message, as I have a few ideas on what might be going wrong.

Cheers Jussi

[Dušan D. Majkić]

> I discovered SynWrite ( http://www.uvviewsoft.com/synwrite/ ) thanks to

There is full SynWrite as TotalCommande F3 viewer plugin.
It is in the zip file.

Just open SyWrite zip file with TotalCmd, and it will offer to install it.
Supporting a good number of file formats, it is very useful for F3 viewer.

Thank you!

[Francesco Perillo]

vim

why look further?

[Moshe Mordkovych]

Hi! Also important 1) split to multiple windows (and to see 2 files side by side) 2) macros 3) indent the code

[Moshe Mordkovych]

Thanks! Which product you are speaking? And where is Evolve product?

On Wednesday, February 10, 2016 at 10:27:25 AM UTC-5, Gale Ford wrote:

I used Brief way back in the day but moved to Multi Edit back in the 90's. It support over 50 languages include xBase. It has all of the Brief features including keyboard layout if you want. Includes all of the column manipulation features including upper/lower/first cap text, commenting, etc.
It comes with an add on called Evolve that includes xBase specific tools like DBF documenting, re-indent code, list constants (even from the #include), etc.
It has one of the best source code file compare tools I have found.

https://multieditsoftware.com/

On Tuesday, February 9, 2016 at 3:58:31 PM UTC-6, Moshe Mordkovych wrote:

Hi! I am still looking... Any new suggestions?

[Gale Ford]

Evolve is an addin that comes with Multi-Edit. Evolve adds many (x)base related functions and utilities.

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[Moshe Mordkovych]

Hi!

Where is the latest verson of HbIDE?



On Thursday, November 27, 2014 at 11:06:57 AM UTC-5, Pritpal Bedi wrote:

Hi

I am looking for good code editor. Preferably with brief-like features, like column marking etc

Look for HbIDE.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/qtcontribs

For help : http://hbide.vouch.info 

It is Harbour oriented code editor and project manager,

written in Harbour, for Harbour, with many Harbour specific goodies,

with powerful column editing features.

Pritpal Bedi

a student of software analysis & concepts

[Massimo Belgrano]

Here 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/qtcontribs
afaik you need re compile from source

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[Moshe Mordkovych]

Hi! It's the same download QtContribs_Mingw-492_Qt-550_r417_Setup.exe. Where can I find instructions how to recompile?
Thanks

[Moshe Mordkovych]

Hi! Can you please explain how to recompile HbIDE (people saying I have to do it). Also - why debugger doesnt work? Ii opens many boxes but I cannot step through the code. Thanks

[Pritpal Bedi]

Hi

Hi! Can you please explain how to recompile HbIDE (people saying I have to do it). Also - why debugger doesnt work? Ii opens many boxes but I cannot step through the code. Thanks

You need not to compile HbIDE at all if you are using the same distro.

About the debugger, please look into qtcontribs changelog or past messages on that group.

[Massimo Belgrano]

2016-06-01 4:08 GMT+02:00 Pritpal Bedi <bedipr...@gmail.com>:

You need not to compile HbIDE at all if you are using the same distro.

Who is very old regarding harbour version 2015-08-03

[Pritpal Bedi]

He is talking about HbIDE not Harbour.