gwt-site(https://github.com/gwtproject/gwt-site ) compiled and run successfully but a lot of stuff missing

[Alex Luya]

Hello,
     I have asked a question here:https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-web-toolkit/x-OoMQv_RHo.Briefly speaking,due to all google related stuff is  blocked in China,so I want to set up gwt-site in my local machine,followed the instructions in gwt-site page,I got compilation and run successfully,but there are many stuffs missing including:gwtproject.nocache.js(please check blow image),why?
   (screenshot with firebug of gwt-site)

[Thomas Broyer]

gwt-site contains the doc's "content" only.

If you want the "full" website, then you need https://gwt.googlesource.com/gwt-site-webapp/ in addition.

[Alex Luya]

Thanks,
        I tried it,but it depends on google app engine.I just wonder:since GWT has kinds of out of google,why does it still inherit google's bad tradition:not provide downloadable doc package?After all,it is faster,bandwith saving and  still avaialbe when network is down or in google blocked place.

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[Julien Dramaix]

The old site was downloadable and you was able to crawl it locally. 

It's something we broke with the new site and that has to be fixed. When ? When somene would have time to work on a patch for that :-)

On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 1:55:19 AM UTC+2, Alex Luya wrote:

Thanks,
        I tried it,but it depends on google app engine.I just wonder:since GWT has kinds of out of google,why does it still inherit google's bad tradition:not provide downloadable doc package?After all,it is faster,bandwith saving and  still avaialbe when network is down or in google blocked place.

On 04/18/2015 07:34 PM, Thomas Broyer wrote:

gwt-site contains the doc's "content" only.

If you want the "full" website, then you need https://gwt.googlesource.com/gwt-site-webapp/ in addition.

On Saturday, April 18, 2015 at 7:10:49 AM UTC+2, Alex Luya wrote:

Hello,
     I have asked a question here:https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/google-web-toolkit/x-OoMQv_RHo.Briefly speaking,due to all google related stuff is  blocked in China,so I want to set up gwt-site in my local machine,followed the instructions in gwt-site page,I got compilation and run successfully,but there are many stuffs missing including:gwtproject.nocache.js(please check blow image),why?
   (screenshot with firebug of gwt-site)

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[Alex Luya]

Sorry,
      But I think this isn't about time but how gwt guys think about problem,I just hope gwt guys can think from user's perspective:
1,not from google perspective.google just hope everything be online,then it can track every clicking and push ads to you,so it rarely provides downloadabe docs(in the opposite,apache and many other tech providers do it very well:provide good downloadable doc).Google just has too strong desire of controlling.

2,GwtProject site primarily contains static pages,not so much interactions can be performed.Why does it use so "heavy and fancy" tech like GWT+App engine?Html and jquery can handle it very well.New tech should simplify complicated things,not 'complicatify' simple things.

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[Julien Dramaix]

1. GWT is not a Google product anymore. The website has been mainly built by Arcbees, a Canadian company member of the GWT steering committee. Google is just offering to host freely the website on its infrastructure. 

2. AppEngine is used to store the pages on the database so that we can change the content of the pages without redeploying the application. It's not so complex and gives us a lot of flexibility. We use GWT and not jQuery (though we use gwtQuery) because we are GWT developpers and it makes sense to use GWT for the GWT website (we use GWT to enhance the html like we would have done if we had used jQuery...). So it's not a problem of using GWT instead of jQuery. In our case, I think the main issue that make the site available offline is that CSS hide the main content until the GWT code (or javascript code if you prefer)  is loaded. That why you cannot simply crawl the website from the file system.

There are still a lot of work to do on the website (like updating the content for example) but don't expect Google engineers to do that. It's the role of the community to do it. So if you want to contribute in order to make the website more user friendly for non-connected users, fell free to contribute or wait that another people on the community has the same problem and decide to fix it.

Julien