v3.2 Release Candidate 1X - Download links and Use this post for feedback.

[G Coco]

Hi,

There are builds available for download at:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/goldencheetah/files/3.2.0/Release%20Candidate%201X/

or

https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah/releases/tag/V3.2-RC1X

Windows 32bit, Windows 64bit and Mac 64bit. All are Qt 5.4.2.

I am working on a Mac Univeral build running some form of Qt 4.8.x.

Please use this post for feedback.

[Mark Liversedge]

I'm sure everyone is being polite - but THANKS !!

Its ace to have some binaries in the wild, I know how much effort you and Joern put into this.

Cheers

Mark 

[Tom Weichmann]

Any Linux RC?

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[Darren Cope]

Yes, a HUGE thank for all the work that went into this--I love the auto-detected intervals. Truly a fantastic addition!

[G Coco]

I suspect that there may be a Debian version but not much else unless someone want to step up for building one.

Issue is each Linux has a different QT and different libraries it is hard to make a simple consistent build.

This is also harder with several libraries needing to be added.

Always happy for someone to build it and I am happy to add it to the release list. 

Email me if you would like to.

Any Linux RC?

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[Ruud Goorden]

Great work! Interval discovery is great!

[c c]

In an old pc with xp i can install but not run. i need some extra file/change?

[Jörn R.]

Which Version did you use - 32bit or 64bit. If 64bit try 32bit please.

Explicite XP support is not done for new QT versions. So there might be issues in QT5

which we used to build.

Joern

[jkoch6599]

I downloaded 3.2 and played with it a little last night.  The interval discovery and analysis and the new map features are amazing!  Thank you so much for all of the hard work you've all done on this project!

[Mark Liversedge]

On Monday, 22 June 2015 17:20:41 UTC+1, G Coco wrote:

Windows 32bit, Windows 64bit and Mac 64bit. All are Qt 5.4.2.

Playing with the 64bit build on Windows 7 and drag and drop a season into the compare pane sets the season to blank !

I will check this out obviously :)

Some other nits that are already fixed include Core Temp not showing on charts or being lost when you smooth which are also fixed ready for the next release candidate.

Mark 

[c c]

the pc is 32bit i tried only 32

[Salvatore Taibi]

I'm running on Mac OS 10.10.3, and so far so good. The interval feature is really cool... but here's a question: how do I disable it? I want it to search for some of the intervals automatically, but not all. For instance, I have no need to look at 20" peak power or the EFFORTS. I think the ability to create segments is the best part, but this feature means I don't need a separate header for the other climbs. Frankly it's just a bit cluttered. 

Thanks for all the hard work!

[Jean Div]

Thanks fort all the hard work on this guys.. much appreciated!

Quick one - If I want to test 3.2, do I need to be careful / backup my existing GC files? Does this use the same structure, or a different one?

Ta,

Jean

[Mark Liversedge]

I was thinking about making the different interval searches optional. I think we should add that since it will speed a few things up.

Mark

[Salvatore Taibi]

Thanks Mark. Yes, if we had the ability to pick and choose which intervals we want to auto-search, it would be icing on the cake!

[Günter]

Hi,

thx for all the hard work you put into Golden Cheetah. I really aappreciate this!
Unfortunatlyafter installing the new 3.2RC1 Golden Cheetah is no longer working. I upgraded back in Feb to 3.2Dev and it worked very nice for me. After installing 3.2 RC1 my Golden Cheetah is crashing always while loaading the athlete. I already tried to clear the cache dir, but no success. The crash log ist attached

cheers
Günter

[Mark Liversedge]

On Tuesday, 23 June 2015 20:07:08 UTC+1, Günter wrote:

thx for all the hard work you put into Golden Cheetah. I really aappreciate this!
Unfortunatlyafter installing the new 3.2RC1 Golden Cheetah is no longer working. I upgraded back in Feb to 3.2Dev and it worked very nice for me. After installing 3.2 RC1 my Golden Cheetah is crashing always while loaading the athlete. I already tried to clear the cache dir, but no success. The crash log ist attached

Would you mind sending me your June 2015 rides in a zipfile ?

It looks like one of them causes a crash.

Mark

liversedge gmail com 

[Mark Liversedge]

On Tuesday, 23 June 2015 20:07:08 UTC+1, Günter wrote:

Thank you for the ride. At one point in the ride time goes backwards and I had not anticipated that in my resampling code (used to resample to 1s intervals for the sustained efforts search).

I have fixed the code.

Mark 

[art...@gmail.com]

Hi,

if I add a workout (swim) now manual in GC the intervals starts with -1 in .json file and the distance are not correct. All intervalls are 2 meters to short and the rest intervalls have all 1 meter!

"INTERVALS":[
            { "NAME":"1 ", "START": -1, "STOP": 458 },
            { "NAME":"2 ", "START": 459, "STOP": 518 },
            { "NAME":"3 ", "START": 519, "STOP": 613 },
            { "NAME":"4 ", "START": 614, "STOP": 643 },
.
.
"SAMPLES":[
            { "SECS":0, "KM":0, "KPH":3.13043 },
            { "SECS":1, "KM":0.000869565, "KPH":3.13043 },
            { "SECS":2, "KM":0.00173913, "KPH":3.13043 },
            { "SECS":3, "KM":0.00260869, "KPH":3.13043 },

cheers
Andy

[Manuel Oberti]

FANTASTIC  MARK

THANKS

[Ale]

On mac osx 10.10.3 16gb ram + ssd works fine just a little bit slow when opening. Did you already put the second column (the one on the right) in this version or will it come later? If is already in I'm not able to find

[Mark Liversedge]

On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 09:39:12 UTC+1, Ale wrote:

On mac osx 10.10.3 16gb ram + ssd works fine just a little bit slow when opening. Did you already put the second column (the one on the right) in this version or will it come later? If is already in I'm not able to find

We haven't changed for v3.2.

If we do anything we will make it a draggable component, it might make sense for some users to have stuff on the right in some views but not others. Planning will also add more sidebars...

Mark 

[Paul22]

@ Mark

I have updated from 3102 to 3.2RC1x yesterday, using a Windows 8.1 (64 bit) Computer. The new version runs fine! THX!

Two comments:
1. Speed
It takes really long (up to 20 seconds) before the programm is started. This is quite normal after the installation, when the program is doing a recalculation (1500 activities). But version 3.2 is always slow when started.
Version 3102 is much faster (approx. 2-3 seconds)

2. Intervals
Each activity has now automatically calculated "best intervals". They are shown in the left side bar. Can I switch the calculation off or manually delete the intervals?

Regards
Paul 

 

[Mark Liversedge]

On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 11:23:10 UTC+1, Paul22 wrote:

@ Mark

I have updated from 3102 to 3.2RC1x yesterday, using a Windows 8.1 (64 bit) Computer. The new version runs fine! THX!

Two comments:
1. Speed
It takes really long (up to 20 seconds) before the programm is started. This is quite normal after the installation, when the program is doing a recalculation (1500 activities). But version 3.2 is always slow when started.
Version 3102 is much faster (approx. 2-3 seconds)

At startup the memory cache is loaded from backing store, this can take as long as 10-15 seconds, depending on your PC and the number of rides you are looking at. This load time has increased now that we have intervals pre-computed. Once loaded you will find 3.2 is faster in all respects, and especially when working with intervals.

 

2. Intervals
Each activity has now automatically calculated "best intervals". They are shown in the left side bar. Can I switch the calculation off or manually delete the intervals?

Yeah, this was raised above, I will add the option to remove interval discovery for all the different types individually.

This will also reduce the time it takes to load.

You can hide the intervals by double clicking on the tree i.e. double click on "PEAK POWER" to hide all peak power intervals in the sidebar. But I am like you, they are pretty blunt and provide little insight, so will make it possible to turn off the autodiscovery.

Cheers,

Mark

Mark 

[Paul22]

@Mark

THX!
Paul

[Mark Liversedge]

On Tuesday, 23 June 2015 17:39:00 UTC+1, Jean Div wrote:

Quick one - If I want to test 3.2, do I need to be careful / backup my existing GC files? Does this use the same structure, or a different one?

It uses a completely different structure; the athlete directory has a number of subdirectories for activities, cache, config etc.

I would certainly recommend taking a backup !

Mark 

[Ale Martinez]

I think all intervals were shifted one sample when the new intervals structure was implemented since manual workouts haven't changed, do you find something similar with imported tcx or pwx files?

[Mark Liversedge]

On Wednesday, 24 June 2015 14:25:28 UTC+1, Ale Martinez wrote:

I think all intervals were shifted one sample when the new intervals structure was implemented since manual workouts haven't changed, do you find something similar with imported tcx or pwx files?

That's *exactly* what is happening. The ridefile samples are all adjusted so the ride starts from 0 secs, but the intervals are not aligned. Its a really easy fix, but would be neat to have one of these files to work with to validate the fix.

Mark 

[Jean Div]

I can confirm that it takes a *little* longer to open, but once it is open, it feels a little snappier. Difficult to quantify.. but things like scrolling through the activity log are more responsive. Macbook with 16GB RAM and SSD.

Also an oddity, but the 2 or 3 old swim files that I had in GC read very strange. Not an issue because all new ones that I pull from TP are perfect!

Silly 2 things on Synchronise to TP: 1. why was the hotkey 'command - L' removed from 'Synchronise with TP'.. that was handy! and 2. Every time that I open the synchronisation window, its too small for the contents of the columns, so I have to resize the block every time! No chance that it could either remember its last position, or pop up to fit the columns by default..?

 

Will keep looking at the swim stuff, then the running.

Thanks again for all the hard work guys!

[art...@gmail.com]

Hi Mark,

here is a .fit file from a indoor ride. Hopefuly this help you.

cheers
Andy

[Jean Div]

One more issue.. using the Mac Version, when you are in 'full screen' mode and open the preferences, the preference pane goes to a new fullscreen of its own. When you click 'save' or 'close', the preference pane's fullscreen does not close thought he contents do dissappear, and it does not give you the little right cross on the top left to do it in expose.

Below you can see I've opened and closed preferences 4 times, and so I have the GC window (rightly so) plus 4 blank fullscreen panes that won't close.

Not sure if anyone has reported that before?

Ta,

Jean

[Arturo Gonzalez Mac Dowell]

Great work!

Here is what I've found so far:

• Lap swimming .fit files from a Garmin 920xt are not imported. I don't know if it is an error or it is intended.
• Withings import is not working for me. I only get the weight from some months in 2013 and no fat mass or fat ratio.
• I miss an explanation somewhere of what values should be entered for critical velocity for the run and swim.

Arturo

[Ale Martinez]

El miércoles, 24 de junio de 2015, 18:27:44 (UTC-3), Arturo Gonzalez Mac Dowell escribió:

Great work!

Here is what I've found so far:

• Lap swimming .fit files from a Garmin 920xt are not imported. I don't know if it is an error or it is intended.

Direct import for Lap swimming .fit files are not supported yet, but they can be imported in .tcx format (exported from Garmin Connect) or .pwx (exported from TrainingPeaks/Device Agent).

• I miss an explanation somewhere of what values should be entered for critical velocity for the run and swim.

Perhaps we can put some explanation in the wiki or GC site, context sensitive help would better but it is not enabled for the Options dialog so probably it will not happen for 3.2 (short answers could be: a TT around 60' or Daniels T-Pace from a recent race, and a TT around 30' for swimming or CSS based on 200/400 tests)

[art...@gmail.com]

Hi,

was there a change on GVOSS calculation? I run last week and today the same lap. Today, I was a bit faster than last week but the GOVSS has a lower value. RTP has not changed.
Metric:   Last week / today
Time:     57:52 / 57:07
xPace:   04:55 / 04:54
LNP:      339 / 341
GOVSS 78 / 77

I would expect a higher GOVSS value or at least equal but not lower.

cheers
Andy

[Ale Martinez]

It didn't changed, but it depends on other data that could: height/weight and altitude, even on the same loop GPS reported altitude could be different, try running Edit->Fix Elevation Errors con both workouts.

[Arturo Gonzalez Mac Dowell]

Thanks Ale,
I guess entering incorrect values is the reason I get CTL values in green and RR in red and with a minus sign. Right?

Arturo

[Ale Martinez]

Arturo, CV value has a big impact in TriScore (GOVSS/SwimScore) values, too low and TriScore will be overestimated, too high and it will be underestimated.

WRT to PMC data beware the showed values depend on the sport(s) of selected activit(y/ies).

Green CTL is for values >80 and blue for values >100

RR is a kind of linear tendency / slope for CTL where red is for values < -4 (probably detraining) or > 8 (probably too fast).
A PMC chart using TriScore as base metric for CTL/ATL/TSB and filtered for sport would provide a more panoramic view.

[art...@gmail.com]

Hi Ale,

jep, thanks. After Fix Elevation Errors the values are equal.

After a import of my last ride and the first one in 3.2 RC I just see in Activity -> Summery -> Modell n.v for all values. W', CP and Pmax. Is that known?

cheers
Andy

[Ale Martinez]

Andy, this is fixed now, it should be ok for RC2

El miércoles, 24 de junio de 2015, 1:44:25 (UTC-3), art...@gmail.com escribió:

[Ale Martinez]

Good to know ;-) BTW to run Fix Elevation Errors is generally advice if your device has GPS based altitude.

WRT to model that is expected if you don't have bike power data from which to compute those parameters, perhaps would be a good idea to hide them for runs and swims, I toyed with the idea to replace them with CV/D' according to sport but I think it will not happen for v3.2

[art...@gmail.com]

Hi Ale,

ok, but I am talking of a bike ride with power data.

Andy

[paull]

Not working well for me in windows:

- Upgrade failed with buckets of error messages, ending up wiping out all GC files everywhere to reset it
- Then I installed the latest as a clean install
- Import my files - its stuck on "select date" and yet all the rides had dates already
- One file had something about "cannot load more than 24 hours" or something like that
- Import 3 years worth 2011 to 2013, ok that loaded but I had to select date, no idea which workout it was referring to
- Columns in the ride list look weird, went to column chooser but double click, drag, click, whatever, does nothing
- Column chooser is system modal - no dialogs should be system model, application modal is fine, system modal is bad programming
- Column chooser sort order is case sensitive
- Resizing the ride list width still resizes the columns, unnecessary and silly IMO
- When you click "find intervals" it appears below column chooser even though it has the focus
- I couldnt find a way of removing "sport" from the ride list - takes up a lot of screen estate with the word "Ride" !!
- When I click the layout icons on the top right next to search, the whole thing white screens (not responding) had to end task it.
- When I start up it gives me a dialog "select athlete" even though there is only one athlete. Why not just open that athlete?

I kind of expected it would trash everything so not a problem, it happens pretty much every time I upgrade. I've never put any manual data in for that reason, but its a shame to lose all my ride edits (mainly trimming off zeros off the start and end of each ride)

I won't respond to this as I'm giving up with this software, but if the above helps you fix it, that might help someone else.

[David Rae]

Was working when first install but am now getting Microsoft C++ runtime error which is cause GC to crashout.

No changes or updates to the machine or software in the last two days.

Any ideas please?

[Mark Liversedge]

On Friday, 26 June 2015 08:35:51 UTC+1, paull wrote:

Not working well for me in windows:

- Upgrade failed with buckets of error messages, ending up wiping out all GC files everywhere to reset it

I expect there was a lot of bad files.

 

- Then I installed the latest as a clean install
- Import my files - its stuck on "select date" and yet all the rides had dates already

I expect there were a few files that didn't.

 

- One file had something about "cannot load more than 24 hours" or something like that

We don't import rides longer than 24 hrs long.

 

- Import 3 years worth 2011 to 2013, ok that loaded but I had to select date, no idea which workout it was referring to

Not sure how the software would know any better than you. Software is not magic.

 

- Columns in the ride list look weird, went to column chooser but double click, drag, click, whatever, does nothing

Column chooser is drag and drop.

 

- Column chooser is system modal - no dialogs should be system model, application modal is fine, system modal is bad programming

No it isn't.

 

- Column chooser sort order is case sensitive

This is a bug - there are some metrics that are listed with Z prefixes and should be fixed.

 

- Resizing the ride list width still resizes the columns, unnecessary and silly IMO

You are welcome to your opinion. We have others.

  

 

- When you click "find intervals" it appears below column chooser even though it has the focus

Then close column chooser or move it.

 

- I couldnt find a way of removing "sport" from the ride list - takes up a lot of screen estate with the word "Ride" !!

Right click on the column header and choose 'remove column'

 

- When I click the layout icons on the top right next to search, the whole thing white screens (not responding) had to end task it.

Will see if we can recreate this, sounds odd.

 

- When I start up it gives me a dialog "select athlete" even though there is only one athlete. Why not just open that athlete?

Because you have just crashed and may need to create a new one to import rides / etc.

 

I kind of expected it would trash everything so not a problem, it happens pretty much every time I upgrade. I've never put any manual data in for that reason, but its a shame to lose all my ride edits (mainly trimming off zeros off the start and end of each ride)

Trimming of empty data is bad !?

 

I won't respond to this as I'm giving up with this software, but if the above helps you fix it, that might help someone else.

Bye.

Mark 

[Mark Liversedge]

On Friday, 26 June 2015 08:52:50 UTC+1, David Rae wrote:

Was working when first install but am now getting Microsoft C++ runtime error which is cause GC to crashout.

No changes or updates to the machine or software in the last two days.

Any ideas please?

The crash log would be useful, as a start.

Mark 

[Mark Liversedge]

On Friday, 26 June 2015 08:35:51 UTC+1, paull wrote:

I won't respond to this as I'm giving up with this software, but if the above helps you fix it, that might help someone else.

As a note to everyone, please remember these are *release candidates* and will contain bugs.

If you are new to GoldenCheetah and have little experience of it I would recommend you avoid them and wait for the release.

Also, it is tedious to have to deal with user error when trying to diagnose real issues.

We develop and build this software as volunteers, please respect that.

Mark 

[Harold Heyermans]

Mark (and all the developers)

I been kinda a closet GC user for years and what you are seeing (and reading) are people that are being frustrated because they have not been through the evolution of the software changes. Its not the easiest to get around if you are installing for first time. I have few few friends that are now using it and i get emailed allot to help them through it. Once they are on board and see what it can do and the fact that its free and open source it amazes them.

Please dont let the one percent of users that fail to understand its still in the development stage get to you. There are many more of us that feel you and the group are doing a great job!.

Oh, and my trick for updates is to try it out on my old laptop first and then if all things go well install it on my main laptop.......this way I don't mess up a working copy...

 

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[Ale Martinez]

Andy, that is weird, I could reproduce it but only in this particular situation:

- I have a test user without rides, only swims and runs, CP Model estimates are N/A, which is expected.

- Added a ride with power data and CP Model continue to be N/A, even when the ride is selected as in your case and even when CP chart display the model curve and parameters.

After restart model estimates start to appear as expected, so in my case it seems to be related to cache refresh.

[art...@gmail.com]

Hi Ale,

jep, like in my case. I did I ride today and still the modell values of all workouts I added since I have used 3.2 RC1 have N/A. After restart today the values back! If it is cache releated, when gets the cache refreshed? I installed RC1 at release date and today the values are back. It is depending on days, numbers of imports or ....?

Andy

[Kevin Hays]

Unfortunate for me, the new GC 3.2 crashes on my Mac.  I did install it over the previous version I had on this machine, but the computer is a brand new (2 weeks old) Macbook Pro.  Maybe I need to do a clean install.  Here's what happened for me:

• Installation went fine.
• At startup, it asked me to pick the athlete (only me)
• App opens and displays all the ride files I had previously in the left panel.  The latest ride shows in the main panel.
• A couple seconds later, I get a spinning beachball cursor for several seconds, turns off briefly, and then continues repeating this process.  I'm guessing it's going through my files adding the intervals - but you would know better.  After about 1 minute the app crashes.
• Macbook Pro 15inch Mid 2015 running Yosemite 10.10.3

Crash reports from Apple and GC are attached.  Looking forward to using this new version.  Hope the solutions is easy.  Thanks,

--Kevin

[Ale Martinez]

I don't know but it is possible to force a cache refresh deleting rideDB.json in cache folder or, more drastically, all cache folder content.

To try to find a pattern I started with a new athlete from scratch:

1) added a single ride with power data, no model data is shown, even after restart, AFAIK the code requires at least 2 rides but I don't understand the rationale and it is somewhat confusing since model estimates are present in CP chart with just 1 ride.

2) added a second ride with power data and model estimates continue to be N/A, after restart the match those of CP chart.

[Mark Liversedge]

On Friday, 26 June 2015 15:28:24 UTC+1, Kevin Hays wrote:

Unfortunate for me, the new GC 3.2 crashes on my Mac.  I did install it over the previous version I had on this machine, but the computer is a brand new (2 weeks old) Macbook Pro.  Maybe I need to do a clean install.  Here's what happened for me:

• Installation went fine.
• At startup, it asked me to pick the athlete (only me)
• App opens and displays all the ride files I had previously in the left panel.  The latest ride shows in the main panel.
• A couple seconds later, I get a spinning beachball cursor for several seconds, turns off briefly, and then continues repeating this process.  I'm guessing it's going through my files adding the intervals - but you would know better.  After about 1 minute the app crashes.
• Macbook Pro 15inch Mid 2015 running Yosemite 10.10.3

Crash reports from Apple and GC are attached.  Looking forward to using this new version.  Hope the solutions is easy.  Thanks,

--Kevin

That looks like the same bug that Günter reported and has been fixed. It relates to time going backwards in a ride file.

We will push out an RC2 that should fix it.

Mark

[David Rae]

Hi Mark,

Crash report is attached.

[Mark Liversedge]

Further, I have tested using the data you previously shared and it works fine with the latest fixes. It takes a while to load though !

Mark 

[Paul Tarter]

Hello!

I don't know if I am missing something in my settings or if calculations have changed between 3.1 and 3.2 but my PMC charts display different Skiba Stress Balance. I've attached two screenshots displaying each versions.

Thanks!

[Mark Liversedge]

On Saturday, 27 June 2015 17:30:42 UTC+1, Paul Tarter wrote:

Hello!

I don't know if I am missing something in my settings or if calculations have changed between 3.1 and 3.2 but my PMC charts display different Skiba Stress Balance. I've attached two screenshots displaying each versions.

Thanks!

Some nice charts :)

The precision of the calculations was increased in 3.2, but otherwise the calculations are the same (albeit reintroducing the ramp-rate metric).

I will double check, but suspect the minor differences are from two-a-days and less rounding.

Mark 

[Jean Div]

Hi Mark et al..

Still having some problems with swim files. I deleted all the old buggy ones, and pulled from TP again. 90% of them are fine, but when I started plotting swims I saw that about 1 in ten had SwimScores of >800, or >6000. The one had my Xpace @ 42s/100m for an hour swim. Not bad! :-)

I have attached a screenshot (Swimscore in the TriScore Column), plus 3 of the files in question in JSON format. The device is a Garmin Swim, but I don't think thats an issue because 1. It gets more right than it does wrong 2. I have a few files from a Forerunner 920 that are also wacky in the same way.

Then just a question.. For the PMC, is there a way to produce a Triscore-drivn PMC? I've looked through all the metrics, but can only seem to see TSS, GOVSS, TRIMP, etc..

Thanks,

Jean

[Mark Liversedge]

On Friday, 26 June 2015 23:48:16 UTC+1, David Rae wrote:

Hi Mark,

Crash report is attached.

Thanks David,

Nothing jumps out, which is annoying !

Hopefully the recent fix regarding a bug in my resampling code is the reason.

Lets try with RC2 and if the problem persists we will need to dig deeper.

Mark 

[Paul Tarter]

Thanks Mark, looking forward to your thoughts. The TSB balance does seem to be a large enough difference that I would train differently based on each graph. In 3.1 the last couple weeks I have been doing a hard ride 3 days a week. Instead of doing an active recovery day inbetween I have fully rested to keep my number positive for Wednesday and Saturday rides. Given the charts in 3.2 I would most likely put in active recovery days.

Coming up to a race Next Sunday and then I will be planning out my next phase of training, interested in your thoughts of the TSB changes.

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[Mark Liversedge]

On Saturday, 27 June 2015 18:37:39 UTC+1, Paul Tarter wrote:

Thanks Mark, looking forward to your thoughts. The TSB balance does seem to be a large enough difference that I would train differently based on each graph. In 3.1 the last couple weeks I have been doing a hard ride 3 days a week. Instead of doing an active recovery day inbetween I have fully rested to keep my number positive for Wednesday and Saturday rides. Given the charts in 3.2 I would most likely put in active recovery days.

Coming up to a race Next Sunday and then I will be planning out my next phase of training, interested in your thoughts of the TSB changes.

Will look more closely tomorrow and let you know why its different / fix bug!

Cheers

Mark 

[Ale Martinez]

What I see in those files are short duration peaks (4-10sec) of too high speed (12-30km/h) which have a huge effect in xPace and SwimScore, can you post or send me the downloaded (.pwx) files to try to understand what is happening?

To build a PMC using TriScore in Trends add a Metric Trends chart and in curves select stress, TriScore as base metric and CTL/ATL/TSB, the wiki can be useful: https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah/wiki/UG_ChartTypes_Trends#metric-trends, we should add one preset to the library.

[Kevin Hays]

Thanks for checking my files, Mark.  I pulled my GC data folder out of my Library folder and then re-installed GC 3.2.  After re-creating my Athlete profile, I started dragging my previous .json files onto the app and let it validate and import them.  The validator showed about 50 files with whacked out durations, most of which were crazy big numbers and some were crazy big negative numbers.   GC 3.2 crashed whenever I tried to import one of those files.  They were all a bit old... from 2008 - 20012 originally from a Computrainer.

Opening these bogus files in an editor shows the time samples and other parameters are messed up:

{ "SECS":2.50697e+07, "KM":21.884, "WATTS":1537, "CAD":122, "KPH":141.3, "HR":154 }

But then again, I really want to import these so I can see that kind of speed and that amount of power output just once in my life! 

Let me know if you want a couple of these files, though it looks like they are junk anyway.

--Kevin

[Jean Div]

Thanks Ale. Will check out the wiki.

I have gone into TP and pulled the files for you (attached). The TP site doesn't seem to pick up the same massive variance when calculating their sTSS - Jan 10, 2013 = 46, jan 22, 2013 = 60.1.. not in the hundreds.

2 files attached. Is this useful..?

Ta,

Jean

[Ale Martinez]

El sábado, 27 de junio de 2015, 16:33:08 (UTC-3), Jean Div escribió:

I have gone into TP and pulled the files for you (attached). The TP site doesn't seem to pick up the same massive variance when calculating their sTSS - Jan 10, 2013 = 46, jan 22, 2013 = 60.1.. not in the hundreds.

2 files attached. Is this useful..? 

Thanks Jean, I will check them.

To have an approximate value for SwimScore without the glitches due to the bad speed data you can select the Speed column in the Editor and Clear Contents from the context menu (https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah/wiki/UG_ChartTypes_Activities#editor) and it will be estimated based on time and distance, which seems to be ok.

[David Rae]

Hi Mark,

I had a bit of a play yesterday and found I could GC to open if I created a new athlete.

If I tried opening the existing open then I got the runtime crash error.

I am thinking that one my recent ride files maybe causing the crash????

[Mark Liversedge]

On Saturday, 27 June 2015 18:37:39 UTC+1, Paul Tarter wrote:

Thanks Mark, looking forward to your thoughts. The TSB balance does seem to be a large enough difference that I would train differently based on each graph. In 3.1 the last couple weeks I have been doing a hard ride 3 days a week. Instead of doing an active recovery day inbetween I have fully rested to keep my number positive for Wednesday and Saturday rides. Given the charts in 3.2 I would most likely put in active recovery days.

Can you export the chart data in 3.1 and 3.2 and send me them so I can see where the differences lie?

Also, can you send me your seasons.xml too?

liversedge gmail com

Many thanks,

Mark 

[Paul Tarter]

Hope this helps! 

Thanks!

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[Paul22]

@Mark
THX a lot!

The option to switch off interval auto-discovery in version 3.2RC2 is perfect!!
Regards
Paul 

Am Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2015 12:23:10 UTC+2 schrieb Paul22:

@ Mark

I have updated from 3102 to 3.2RC1x yesterday, using a Windows 8.1 (64 bit) Computer. The new version runs fine! THX!

Two comments:
1. Speed
It takes really long (up to 20 seconds) before the programm is started. This is quite normal after the installation, when the program is doing a recalculation (1500 activities). But version 3.2 is always slow when started.
Version 3102 is much faster (approx. 2-3 seconds)

2. Intervals
Each activity has now automatically calculated "best intervals". They are shown in the left side bar. Can I switch the calculation off or manually delete the intervals?

Regards
Paul 

 

[Ale Martinez]

I've looked at these files and the problem is with some lenghts having durations too short (ex. 6 sec), which is compensated with the following(s) having longer duration, so while in average time and distance seem to be ok the speed computed for each lenght has abnormal peaks and lows which distort xPace/SwimScore.

I doesn't seem to be a "right" solution to improve the import since speed data is also wrong in some intervals.

The simplest solution to have a crude approximation for SwimScore is to "Clear Content" Speed in Editor so SwimScore is computed from total distance and time.

A better way would be to have a Fix Speed tool which could replace Speed with lap averages since time and distance seems to be mostly Ok at lap level, that tool could be useful also for running files where the lost/recovery of GPS signal tends to produce a similar effect on speed data. I'm not sure if we can have this ready for 3.2.

El sábado, 27 de junio de 2015, 16:33:08 (UTC-3), Jean Div escribió:

[Ruud Goorden]

When trying to download directly from my Moxy device I see the bytes ticking (there is a file to download) but at the end it says there is no data to download.

[Mark Liversedge]

Have you upgraded to firmware 1.0 ?

If so, thats already fixed for RC3.

[Mark Liversedge]

On Sunday, 28 June 2015 23:24:52 UTC+1, Paul Tarter wrote:

Hope this helps! 

It looks like the problem is down to your data/setup.

I have compared 3.1 with 3.2 for my own data across multiple seasons and could not find any issue. Please note however, that in 3.2 if you have multiple seasons with separate seeds for LTS/STS these will all be applied at the relevant point in time when generating the PMC curves.

The date range selection used in the trends view determines which part of the PMC data series is being viewed, but it is generated for all seasons in advance.

Mark 

[Paul Tarter]

Thanks, I will look at that. I think I was manually seeding season LTS/STS.

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