What is the "official" name of :=

[Sam Fourman Jr.]

Hello,

I am new to go, and while reading through the following doc.

http://golang-for-python-programmers.readthedocs.org/en/latest/hello.html

I am wondering how to use := in a sentence, when speaking with another go programmer?

Thanks in advance

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Sam Fourman Jr.

[Dan Kortschak]

On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 22:02 -0500, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:
> I am wondering how to use := in a sentence, when speaking with another
> go programmer?

Although I don't use it, I like "gopher operator" (tilt head).

[andrey mirtchovski]

a := b ⇒ "a gophers b"

[Brad Fitzpatrick]

"bucktooth" is the same number of syllables. "a bucktooth b"

https://www.google.com/search?q=bucktooth&tbm=isch

On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:09 PM, andrey mirtchovski <mirtc...@gmail.com> wrote:

a := b ⇒ "a gophers b"

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[Andrew Gerrand]

I like Brad's suggested "bucktooth" but I usually say "colon equals".

You could also say "declared as".

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[Skip Tavakkolian]

i used Valley Speak as inspiration:

a := b

a "totally, like " b

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[Dan Kortschak]

On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 20:14 -0700, Brad Fitzpatrick wrote:
> "bucktooth" is the same number of syllables. "a bucktooth b"

Nice.

[Billy Harvey]

Way back when I was learning Occam I called it 'set equal' - not sure if that term was used in the language or not.

[David Symonds]

Pascal assign.

[Tamás Gulácsi]

A := b
A let be equal to b.

[Jan Mercl]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:02 AM, Sam Fourman Jr. <sfou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am wondering how to use := in a sentence, when speaking with another go
> programmer?

is

-j

[Dan Kortschak]

On Wed, 2014-08-06 at 08:20 +0200, Jan Mercl wrote:
> is
>
> -j
>
is now

[Jan Mercl]

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Dan Kortschak
<dan.ko...@adelaide.edu.au> wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-08-06 at 08:20 +0200, Jan Mercl wrote:

> is now

Much better ;-)

-j

[chris dollin]

On 6 August 2014 04:02, Sam Fourman Jr. <sfou...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am wondering how to use := in a sentence, when speaking with another go
> programmer?

I would call it `becomes` because it looks like the traditional assignment
symbol even though it's a declaration. Possibly I should review this reflex.

Chris

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[Benjamin Measures]

On Wednesday, 6 August 2014 04:02:25 UTC+1, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:

I am wondering how to use := in a sentence, when speaking with another go programmer?

IdentifierList "defined as" ExpressionList .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mathematical_symbols#Symbols_based_on_equality_sign_.22.3D.22

[akwillis]

short declaration ?...

[Matt Harden]

Realistically, "colon equals". But I love "bucktooth" for its humor and "is defined as" for its descriptiveness.

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[Daniel Skinner]

I'd actually think

a := b

a is b

a = b

a is now b

since the latter implies `a` was something else before "now".

[Michael Jones]

I read "a := b" as "a clone b" because I want to remember:

a begins life as identical to b

a and b live independent lives from that point forward

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[JohnGB]

I was going to say "colon equals", but "clone" is much nicer.

[Sameer Ajmani]

When teaching a Go class, I'm explicit: "this statement declares a and initializes it to the value of b".

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[John Beckett]

Catchy name :)

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[Sameer Ajmani]

I suppose "a spawns as b" would be more fun.

[Staven]

Double tadpole.

[Kevin Gillette]

On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:05:44 PM UTC-6, kortschak wrote:

Although I don't use it, I like "gopher operator" (tilt head).

gopher? go... for?

go func() { for {} }()

[Daniel Skinner]

go... for? and multiply?

go func() {for {_ = rand.Int() * rand.Int()}}()

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[DV]

Pardon my curiosity, but where do you teach these Go classes? Any of them recorded for the masses, by any chance? I really liked your "advanced concurrency patterns" video. 

[Robert Melton]

On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Andrew Gerrand <a...@golang.org> wrote:
> I like Brad's suggested "bucktooth" but I usually say "colon equals".

I used (up until this thread) to say "colon equals" --- but from now
on -- "bucktooth".

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[Matt Harden]

"Clone equals"?

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Kevin Gillette <extempor...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Sameer Ajmani]

I mostly teach internally at Google, but even that teaching has been largely supplanted by self serve resources like the Go tour.  We might be able to provide a video of our "Guided tour of Go" for external users.

[Francesc Campoy Flores]

I'm getting started with screen casting, it is probably a good project to start with.

I added it to my todo list.

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[Ivan Hawkes]

Back in '87 when I was a uni student learning Modula 2 / C our lecturer said to use "equals" for "==" and "is assigned the value" for ":=" and "=" which is a much larger mouthful but pretty quick when thinking / reading code. Consequently, when I read Go code I read that as "is assigned the value of", which is not quite accurate for what it does.

Maybe something a bit shorter is appropriate e.g. "allosign" for allocate and assign. This way you are reminded that you are creating a new variable store and assigning to it with one action.

[Michael Jones]

repeating myself, but "clone" says it all.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Ivan Hawkes <ivan....@gmail.com> wrote:

Back in '87 when I was a uni student learning Modula 2 / C our lecturer said to use "equals" for "==" and "is assigned the value" for ":=" and "=" which is a much larger mouthful but pretty quick when thinking / reading code. Consequently, when I read Go code I read that as "is assigned the value of", which is not quite accurate for what it does.

Maybe something a bit shorter is appropriate e.g. "allosign" for allocate and assign. This way you are reminded that you are creating a new variable store and assigning to it with one action.

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[Benjamin Measures]

On Tuesday, 12 August 2014 14:26:47 UTC+1, Michael Jones wrote:

repeating myself, but "clone" says it all.

For

f := func(x int) int { return 2*x + 1 }

Is there really a clone involved? Do they then lead independent lives? Does the anonymous function "die"?

[Rob Pike]

I like "is" or "are", according to the number of variables.

a := 3

"a is three".

-rob

[tomwilde]

"The truth of the matter is that despite all objections, and in so far as `a`  has not been previously declared, it shall henceforth be defined to represent the value `b`"

Aka.

thetruthofthematter despiteallobjections insofaras a := "Hello, world!"

PS: this compiles

On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 5:02:25 AM UTC+2, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote:

Hello,

I am new to go, and while reading through the following doc.

http://golang-for-python-programmers.readthedocs.org/en/latest/hello.html

I am wondering how to use := in a sentence, when speaking with another go programmer?

[ajstarks]

For me, it's always been:  a "gets to be" b

[Robin Peters]

As far as official documentation goes, the specs call it a 'short variable declaration' (http://golang.org/ref/spec#Short_variable_declarations) and the token package calls it define (http://golang.org/pkg/go/token/#Token).

So I would call it 'a declared by b' or 'a defined by b'.