What do you think Elm's biggest shortcomings are when it comes to natively supported API's?

W. Brian Gourlie

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Dec 10, 2016, 5:03:08 PM12/10/16

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I've noticed a fair amount of discussion around various shortcomings of Elm's native libraries. Particular examples that affect me are the limited Websocket API and no native typed-array implementation. The former is limits me quite a bit, while the latter is simply a nice-to-have. I've seen clamoring for file upload support as well. In any event, it would be interesting to get an idea of what people feel are the Elm's biggest shortcomings in terms of natively supported features.

One thing that is frustrating as an Elm user is feeling in the dark when it comes to feature requests. I know the team likes to batch their efforts, but it's disheartening to see something sit for months unanswered. I'm hoping for two things to come out of this post: Get an idea of what the biggest pain points are in terms of natively supported API's, and to get an idea of what the Elm devs think. Any feedback really would be nice!

Brian

Duane Johnson

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Dec 11, 2016, 11:09:55 AM12/11/16

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I think this list is for discussion and is not as frequented by the elm core developers, so you might try https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/elm-dev

They still show up here on occasion, but my impression is that they primarily hang out over there.

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W. Brian Gourlie

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Dec 11, 2016, 3:17:50 PM12/11/16

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Per the elm-dev mailing list guidelines, I don't think this would be appropriate there. I'm also mostly interested in what other users feel are shortcomings. Perhaps if I had a curated list of things, I could try and bring it to the devs attention.

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Zinggi

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Dec 11, 2016, 4:59:08 PM12/11/16

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(Elm discuss is fine for this. There are almost no open discussions on elm dev, as these are usually a waste of everyone's time.)

For me, these things would be nice to have:

* WebAudio API

* File upload

* Working with binary files, e.g. parsing

* Persistent cache, offering access to local storage and maybe also IndexedDB

(It's already there, but not released yet: https://github.com/elm-lang/persistent-cache)

* Gamepad API

W. Brian Gourlie

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Dec 11, 2016, 7:17:39 PM12/11/16

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With regards to working with binary files, what all does that entail? I assume support for typed-arrays and ArrayBuffer... anything else?

Rex van der Spuy

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Dec 12, 2016, 1:00:00 PM12/12/16

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For me, these things would be nice to have:
* WebAudio API

That's a big one for me too because I use Elm exclusively for game and "interactive multimedia" development.

At the moment I have to drop into ports for Audio - I'd love to it all in Elm.

Christopher Anand

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Dec 12, 2016, 1:26:22 PM12/12/16

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I would use an elm-only audio solution in teaching.

Zinggi

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Dec 12, 2016, 5:07:17 PM12/12/16

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> typed-arrays and ArrayBuffer.

That's basically it. Plus it would be nice if we could pattern match on binary files like in elixir/erlang.

Rex van der Spuy

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Dec 14, 2016, 10:19:50 AM12/14/16

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Oh, one more important thing: Touch.

Ideally, if we just had access to a universal Pointer (that applies to both touch and mouse) that would be perfect.

Chris Van Vranken

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Dec 14, 2016, 5:42:18 PM12/14/16

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1) Futures

2) Binary data

3) Audio

W. Brian Gourlie

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Dec 14, 2016, 6:04:31 PM12/14/16

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Doesn't elm already have Futures in the form of Tasks?

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