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[Aalap Shah]

Hi Guys,

I am working on one app, 

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/stock-market-tracker-stop-loss-alerts-realtime/id1163712730?mt=8

facing few issues right now.

1. Using yahoo api to get latest prices but sometimes they change response format which stops everything!!

2.  i have multiple jobs setup e.g.  Update stock price job, send notifications job 

     Using c#, sql.

     Problem here is, as i have more users, jobs take more time to send notifications and overlap each other (concurrency, transaction issues with multiple threads running at a time).

what could be best possible solution for this ?

I am open to suggestions.

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Aalap Shah

[Nirav Patel]

Bhavin/JIGNESH 

This is for you :)

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[Aalap Shah]

By the way i am using EF (POCO) which is making things more complicated for me!!

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[Aalap Shah]

Anyone ?

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[Jignesh Gor]

Ohhh... i am so sorry...missed this email thread...

Cool (on your work), unfortunately cannot check it...Android person...

Yahoo was awesome from last 10 years...even I am facing same issue with it....URLs are going down too....Verizon may not provide it for free after merger...hence we are looking for some paid market data option....

Now, format issue, it is known issue in the tech community. In python, we have library called Beautiful soup which was used to develop wrapper on yahoo's output....but recently yahoo is making UI changes quite often hence library developers are fed up in managing it....

I can provide you direct URLs which will bypass this format issue....which you might be aware of  as well....YQuery is the tool from Yahoo...

The URL below give you better guidance...

https://support.klipfolio.com/hc/en-us/articles/215546368-Use-Yahoo-Finance-as-a-data-source-

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[Aalap Shah]

Thanks jignesh.

I know those YQL and iChart, that is also not working since more than 2 weeks. My historical charts are down because of that.

I am not worried for format issues for now as i have some more suppressing tasks.

I have 2 jobs running in background, 1 to update stock prices and 2nd to send users alerts.

Both of them involve HTTP calls.

what architecture do you suggest will be the best considering performance.

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Aalap Shah

[Jignesh Gor]

Microservices with NoSQL storage... 

Entity Framework is not a match for this....

[Aalap Shah]

Cool, thanks

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[Bhavin Shah]

Aalap,

Just Saw the messages not sure why I did not got notification.

I agree SQL Entity Framework is Slow and not be able to match performance. But How is your server structure. I have no idea for Apple App. But the question is 2 jobs running in background these jobs are running based on each client's data?

Any of the data you can you pre-catch it? 

Looks like these 2 jobs are interdependent and once 1st job update price then only 2nd job should run? May be try .Net MSMQ for the messaging messagequeue. Also, if your notification is at Client Level or UI Level try to use signalR. 

I might be wrong but looks like this is right option to me.

Cool, thanks

Anyone ?

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[Aalap Shah]

Thanks bhavin, here is what I have right now

I have ec2 instance of windows (t2) on Amazon.

On that I have sql database to maintain user data.

I have API in mvc which helps users to update their alerts and stocks.

I have one scheduler (windows service) which has those 2 tasks as I provided earlier.

For now I am replacing all EF to stored procedures.

Also trying to move Http calls into procedure too (HTTP call for push notifications and HTTP call to update prices)

Those jobs should run simultaneously.

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[SHAH BHAVIN]

few tips before moving to Stored Procedure.

I have never done this but some of our other team is doing this,

1) Once you get data from Yahoo or any other server for the updated stock price. not sure it will take effect of realtime but i think yes try using 

     Amazon ElastiCache - https://aws.amazon.com/caching/ 

                                       https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-elasticache-distributed-in-memory-caching/

Just tip if this is your project and you are suing AWS SQL Sever database is expensive compare to MYSQL or PostgraSQL. - https://aws.amazon.com/rds/

I have one scheduler (windows service) which has those 2 tasks as I provided earlier.

This process is based on sql strored procedure?

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[SHAH BHAVIN]

I know stock price is real time but someof the things you can cache it using   Amazon ElastiCache

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[Jignesh Gor]

We use redis cache....elastic search....mongodb ....reactjs redux...

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[Aalap Shah]

i feel i can use redis cache and mongo db in my case.

can you get me some more details on them or some examples ?

Is mongo db on aws ?

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[Aalap Shah]

@bhavin i am ok to move to other database too but i need to make sure that there is connectivity from c# as i have API in C#,MVC.

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[Jignesh Gor]

in ur case...just redis is enuf

at the EOD just persists the cache file ...

[Jignesh Gor]

why MVC for this work...u dont need model when u go for No sql...DS varies in market data 

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[Aalap Shah]

Is Cache guaranteed to prevent data loss 100%?

I use web api (mvc) to server user requests from mobile app (to register, add stocks , setup alerts etc)

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[SHAH BHAVIN]

Yes, Aalap 

We are using PostgresSql and good connectivity. Very nice even other team is using MySql but from Java. But is should be good with c#.

Our project same only dB is PostgraSql.. with less money ;)

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[Aalap Shah]

I think for me ElastiCache will be enough (dont even need a database).

what do you say ?

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[SHAH BHAVIN]

I think  yes it is amazing fast

But once you done will need your guidance for implementation :)

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[Aalap Shah]

lol sure, there is a saying for that 

"Gaanv basa nahi aur lutaire pehle hi aa gae!!"

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[Jignesh Gor]

Cool...share ur app in Andoid ...we can be users too :-)

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[Aalap Shah]

Would love to but android is too many screens and OS versions !! 

I feels iOS as more reliable and secure.

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what are unique features in your app?

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Hey, Apologies for delayed response :)

there is no unique feature actually, we provide unlimited alerts for stop loss (fixed/trailing) and price movement.

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[Jignesh Gor]

Is it paid app or free?

[Aalap Shah]

That's free but with Ads and notifications are paid (in app purchase).

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/stock-market-tracker-stop-loss-alerts-realtime/id1163712730?mt=8

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Aalap Shah

[Jignesh Gor]

Cool....Just for curiosity, how much Ad business is generating revenue? Do u hunt for sponsors or using some open Ad provider links...

[Aalap Shah]

Most apps on store earn from Ad business as source of income!! More users = More money, that's why we have so many apps in android.

google ad sense has changed the business of advertisement and now there are lots of ad providers available in market.

You can see how app is doing in market using https://www.appannie.com. They give detailed analysis reports.

Checkout https://apptopia.com, https://www.fliptopia.com/. (many others) where you can see app revenues and buy/sell them.

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Aalap Shah

[Jignesh Gor]

Wow...this information is really helpful. I wasn't looking into details...

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[Aalap Shah]

With iOS 11 apple included Machine learning and Augmented Reality SDK's too.

Companies are moving, we have to move too.

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Aalap Shah

[Jignesh Gor]

Oh nice... How and which algos you are planning to use in the current or planned model....

Seems interesting work you have in a line....

[Aalap Shah]

Nothing for now, i am just learning whats new in market and trying to keep at it.

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Aalap Shah

[Aalap Shah]

can anyone add Bharat to this group ?

Thanks and Regards,
Aalap Shah

[Jignesh Gor]

Nirav is admin.

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