Library in Dwarka

[Shobhit Chauhan]

Greetings All!

People, we all feel need of a good public Library in Dwarka. I was reading about the efforts made by Rejimon ji (Dwarka Forum) in getting a mobile Library from DPL in Dwarka. The same still finds a mention in the schedule of DPL but I wonder if that would suffice!

I have a proposal from Ek Sangharsh, if it is worth taking up. We have many ulta-modern Community Halls in Dwarka now. And people in Dwarka Sector 12 had troubles with the one in their area due to Noise disturbances. I feel like getting it converted into a modern Library.

This Library will not be an old dingy room with a wooden table but a very different catering to the present world. It will have books to cater to different sections of the society and age groups. It will be a place where people would love to spend time even if they are not habitual readers. Light eatables like Coffee and Biscuits will be available therein and it will be a very comfortable area with option of reading in the lawn. Wi-fi will be made available inside the Library for catering to the need of present generation and facilitating meetings etc. And other things can be taken care of later on.

Ek Sangharsh is willing to take up management of this proposed Library along with Dwarka Forum and other organisations of Dwarka. 

I am forwarding the same to Shri Rajesh Gehlot ji for his kind consideration as Library is in demand in Dwarka and we genuinely need one.

Looking forward to suggestions and inputs.

Regards

Shobhit Chauhan

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[panka...@gmail.com]

Dear Shobhit,

Excellent proposal...

I would second this idea as we the residents of societies next to Sector - 12 Community Hall / Banquet Hall would love this community hall to stop hosting of Marriage Parties and having a Library is the best way to utilize this infrastructure. will also inculcate habit of reading in children. 

Would also request fellow members to go thru my previous post (reproduced below); wherein I have highlighted how the residents protested against letting out of Community Hall in a residential area for Marriages.

Regards,

Pankaj

 

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Recently I read an article by Mr. Vivian Fernandes (Famous Journalist with 30 Yrs Experience) on IBN Live. He as a resident of Vishwas Nagar, Delhi (AC - 59) faced similar issues in his locality. 

So, they had to file a writ petition in HC to obtain a stay on Weddings in that Community Hall. Also, just before elections CM of Delhi announced that the wedding hall would be converted into a recreation center for senior citizens. This is called sheer wastage of Public Exchequer due to improper planning by elected representatives and officials. I hope SDMC officials would take note of hardships of nearby residents and devise some guidelines to avoid any inconvenience to residents.

The excerpts of article by Mr. Vivian Fernandes are as follows: 

"A couple of years ago our well-meaning Congress MLA Naseeb Singh got approval for a wedding hall. It came up right in front of our apartments in the space allocated for it in the master plan. But the master plan, drafted 25 years ago, had been overtaken by events. 

It had not counted on car ownership keeping pace with rising prosperity and property values. It had not factored that a commercial facility like Max Balaji Hospital, run by the suave Analjit Singh, would be so solicitous of its neighbors as to convert their pavements into a giant parking lot for its patients and their visitors. It had not foreseen that the Delhi Police, those incubators of private enterprise who give migrants to the city their first ticket to upward mobility, would rent out whatever space the hawkers could cram into. And it certainly had not planned for construction workers who had built the apartment complexes partially taking over an adjacent park. The wedding hall had a capacity of 800 people and virtually no car space. 

When our MLA was told that it would add to the congestion, he told the supplicant to take an expansive view: 'Fernandesji, bholiye, is desh mein congestion kahan nahin hai?' We showed an alternative that was commodious and made rescue in the event of a fire easy. Our MP, Sandeep Dikshit, worked the phones furiously. 'Done,' he declared with the certitude of a quack dispensing instant relief. 

Ultimately, we had to file a writ in the High Court and obtain a stay on weddings (but not other community activities). 

It is only on the eve of these elections that the chief minister announced that the wedding hall would be converted into a recreation centre for senior citizens."

Source: http://ibnlive.in.com/blogs/vivianfernandes/1878/64973/can-aam-aadmi-partys-mohalla-sabhas-work.html

[Sudha Iyer]

We all are concerned with the noise pollution and ofcourse it is not acceptable to have the speakers blasting late at night creating nuisance of the residents.  We all are against this loudspeaker menace.

Having said that the purpose of building a community hall is for all purposes ..whether for hosting a small party or a wedding.  What has to be ensured is the DOS AND DONTS.  We have rules and regulations in place - the only problem is in the implementation of the said rules and regulations.  Before letting out the hall - it should be ensured (by way of written agreement etc..if there is one) the parties agree on some basic rules..specially the issue of blasting loudspeakers beyond 10.30pm or so.   I think generally people are aware of this but get carried away.  We need to take up this issue and address it for finding a solution.

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[ashok dua]

Excellent suggestion. We all must be having a lot of books we can spare. Let us start with these books.
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[mythili anil]

Its a very good idea to start modern library with all facilities so all age groups can use the library.

 

Regards.

Mythili Attavar

[vijay saluja]

As Community Centres are located in the densely populated residential localities[one near hospital],it is felt as under,in the interest of harmony,peace of mind & actually providing much needed facilities to the residents.

Library,sports/cultural facilities & senior citizen spaces need to be provided/ earmarked.

No marriage functions should be allowed at all.Only it shd be for small functions for birthdays etc restricting no of invitees at one time.

No food shd be cooked at site.Ready made cooked food be brought & served.

No blaring music at all be allowed at any time

Soft music within the function area which has sound proof doors/windows shd be permissible.

Parking of cars to be done properly.

Garbage management needs to be strict.

There are are many other ideas. DF may like to take up with DDA/MCD/Police etc etc.

Vijay K. Saluja

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Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 05:23:31 +0000

[JAI PRAKASH Tiwaree]

Dear All,

We are grateful and obliged for your act of faith.  

A library is the delivery room for the birth of ideas, a place where history comes to life..

With regards

J.P.Tiwaree

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[Parul]

I like this idea a lot. I want a place which is inspiring --- not boring like other libraries. I don't like the look of DPL. If we can get sponsors, then we can try to make it an inspiring place, serene and calm and beautiful - for anyone and everyone, even those who cannot afford. 

Sahitya akademi has a fairly decent environment.

[Prem Bihari Mishra]

Dear Shobhit

Could U consider my proposal? May discuss on phone.

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[panka...@gmail.com]

Last night another marriage was hosted at this community hall.

At 7:15 Pm the music started and ended within the deadline of 10:30 Pm. But, our lives get totally disturbed as the music is so loud. We can't watch TV, listen to what our children telling us or take calls of our bosses.

If loud music at night wasn't enough; the band started playing "Babul ki duaen leti jaa". The Doli song was played by band from 5:30 AM to 6:20 AM. Nd Sunday morning of hundreds of families was ruined.

It feels as if we are the uninvited guest at each wedding being hosted at this hall; nd this is sheer harrasment...

Dwarka City newspaper of yesterday also had highlighted plight of nearby residents. It carried an article "Community hall creating nuisance".

We need support of SDMC, Councillor, MLA and MP to bring back our normal life.

Regards,
Pankaj

[Shobhit Chauhan]

All those who are in favour of a Library in Dwarka, lets meet up sometime. May be coming Saturday afternoon. Pls finalise.

Shobhit Chauhan
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[Shobhit Chauhan]

Pankaj ji!

i had the displeasure of visiting the place today noon and attached are the photographs of the hall on first floor. Pics tell it all. 

If not stopped, this CC will become a huge nuisance for the residents. Requesting all residents of Dwarka Sector 12 to come together and support having a Community Library. There are people who are willing to donate books for the cause and we will manage the rest. I have already received request for accepting about 600 books for the proposed Library. 

Thanks.

Regards

Shobhit Chauhan

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[Parul Tyagi]

Yes. I support this initiative. And would like to make it a beautiful library --- open to all. Many children from govt. schools serious about studies do not find a quiet place to sit and read. The place should give exposure and help everyone grow. If our security guards can borrow books from there, it wouldn't be too bad. They can sometimes sit and read as they opena nd close the entrance gate. 

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[Anand Sinha]

yes the community hall has become a nuisance for the residents as not only the music which is played loudly even the road has become congested due to the irregularparking of the guests and even illegal drinking sessions are done in open.If it is not stopped it will definetely become unbearable for the residents



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[Rajesh Chhikara]

I think many of us are facing this problem, why don't we go to police-station and file complaints individually. Police will surely get pressure by huge number of complaints  and will take action.

[panka...@gmail.com]

Dear Shobhit,

Sorry for delayed response!

Glad you visited and saw the mess at this Community Hall first hand. Infact I am planning to invite all the respected members of the forum to witness the Traffic Mess and hear the Ear Drum Shattering  music whenever their is a wedding in the community hall. :) 

Residents of nearby societies are planning to petition the authorities and our public representatives regarding stoppage of weddings at this community hall. They must also put proposal of having a library at Ground of First floor of this hall. Hope the proposal of not allowing wedding functions and starting a library at this hall is accepted; else we may have to look for a way to make that happen.

Regards,

Pankaj

[REJIMON C K]

Mr. Pankat,

Would you mind please also add in your Memorandum about REMOVAL of Schools,Market and Shopping Malls from Dwarka as they become very difficult for neighbourhood.

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[panka...@gmail.com]

Respected Mr. Rejimon,

I appreciate that you are in disagreement with my point of view regarding the Community Centre at Sector 12. However, I never said anything about REMOVAL of "School, Market or Shopping Malls from Dwarka".

• You may not be able to understand the plight of the residents of Shubham Apt. (Pocket 4), Park View Apt (Plot 16), Abhiyan Apt (Plot 15), Shivam Apt (Plot 14) & Indraprastha Apt. (Pocket 4) - Sector 12. You have to experience the inconvenience being faced by us than you may be able to feel how much our lives get disturbed by Weddings at this hall during night time.

• Also, you may please read by earlier post under title "Peace Lost Forever?" dated 11/12/2013 wherein I have highlighted a similar issue faced by a famous journalist of IBN7 Mr. Vivian Fernandes and what steps they as a community took. (Article attached).
  

Anyway, if you feel that I am commenting on a non-issue than in future I won't comment regarding the issue of Community Hall on forum and not bother other fellow members who are not staying in this locality.

Thanks & regards,

Pankaj

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On Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:35:31 PM UTC+5:30, REJIMON C K wrote:

Mr. Pankat,

Would you mind please also add in your Memorandum about REMOVAL of Schools,Market and Shopping Malls from Dwarka as they become very difficult for neighbourhood. 

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[Mahendra Kumar Gupta]

Pankaj ji, please suggest some solution and stopping marriages and functions and convert the cc into library is not a not a solution. CC halve been constructed on the demand of the residents with huge expenses. Have you ever raked the issue with the SDMC, organizors, police on the issue of noise and reported matter to the traffic police on the issue of traffic jam.  

DF is not an authority that it can solve the problem.  You will take some steps and df can support you if it feels that the grievance is genuine  We can support if there is noise after 10.00 p.m. as per law of the land.   This I m writing on my own as a resident and these may or may not be the the views of the DF. 

m k gupta

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[pkph...@gmail.com]

I agree with Pankaj ji, it can be big nuisance if rules are not properly followed which is the usual case in India.

Pankaj ji - why don't you approach MCD/ Rajesh ji directly and present your pt along with the people of mentioned societies and pockets. I can assure he will surely suggest some way out.

Regards,
Pawan Kumar

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[Parul Tyagi]

Actually, schools need to be told not to use loudspeakers. Both Adarsh and Bal Bharati use loudspeakers. It's really bad that they use loudspeakers.

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[REJIMON C K]

Dear Mr. Pankaj,

I hope you mis-understood. I had requested to add Schools, Markets a they are DAILY Nuisance as far I am concerned (the way it is today) MORE than that of occasional Marriages. As we all here come Dwk as RESIDENTIAL COLONY not to COMMERCIAL ONE. Exactly what you express my experience in my neighbourhood the schools and markets creates fro me 365 days. A good number of them even dont have necessary permission or even authorisation to run it.

Having said so, I did express my view candid with few suggestion on 6th Feb , please read end of this email.  

I didn't mean to HURT you or any one.

Just like we all have different NAMEs our views may also differ.

Rejimon

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Actually, schools need to be told not to use loudspeakers. Both Adarsh and Bal Bharati use loudspeakers. It's really bad that they use loudspeakers.

On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Mahendra Kumar Gupta <mkgup...@gmail.com> wrote:

Pankaj ji, please suggest some solution and stopping marriages and functions and convert the cc into library is not a not a solution. CC halve been constructed on the demand of the residents with huge expenses. Have you ever raked the issue with the SDMC, organizors, police on the issue of noise and reported matter to the traffic police on the issue of traffic jam.  

DF is not an authority that it can solve the problem.  You will take some steps and df can support you if it feels that the grievance is genuine  We can support if there is noise after 10.00 p.m. as per law of the land.   This I m writing on my own as a resident and these may or may not be the the views of the DF. 

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On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:22 PM, REJIMON C K <reji...@gmail.com> wrote:

Good step!

Just a caution.. As you know over the period the taste of people to get reading habits and with online material the library activities across reduced.

Look example of British Council have very good Library but they dont have that many visitors, except those for study and EN language

So my view is that with experience the response was very poor from our own residents then these days everything get online as draw back.

Having said so.. my call.

Get a feedback, see how many people would be interested.

Check with SDMC- Since they dont have land or building in Dwarka to hand over. Only possible if RG agrees and push to get a medium sized Porta Cabin size Library inside that community Hall  so that it can be begin as pilot project? Also note that now RG is not in SDMC. On CC, these were very much of plan and when it was not build people were raising voice now build people have other objection- Its part of it. Yes, they need to have REGULATION and who is better than an NEIGHBOURHOOD Apartments.
 

Meanwhile DDA have sufficient land for such Library under Housing Area Facility in each Sector- Please check with Director Planning Dwarka Office. This land I had suggested Delhi Public Library to take .
Another suggestion I had given to CCRT to start a libray , which they were progressing. I am out of touch so may get them also pooled as lot of materials they have.

All Schools could be pooled in to have such project.
SCOPE is there.. PROS and CONS are there.. People want you to do and rest want to enjoy.
Its very easy to give u above advise and input...

If there are people to support, it will be good , else it going to overload you only.

So I leave it you for decision and consider if appropriate.

Myself not good reader other than scanning daily news paper or for professional or through email on the subject which we all get in that too online 90% so I am very bad to say YES and NO.

[Parul]

Someone should call the police.  Bal bhavan intl school in Dwarka 12 has gone nuts with their loudspeakers. Shocking behavior.

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[Rajesh Chhikara]

Why do not you take the initiative and call the police. Till we will be dependent on others, nothing can be changed.

On 23-Feb-2014 6:39 PM, "Parul" <parul...@gmail.com> wrote:

Someone should call the police.  Bal bhavan intl school in Dwarka 12 has gone nuts with their loudspeakers. Shocking behavior.

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Dear Shobhit,

Sorry for delayed response!

Glad you visited and saw the mess at this Community Hall first hand. Infact I am planning to invite all the respected members of the forum to witness the Traffic Mess and hear the Ear Drum Shattering  music whenever their is a wedding in the community hall. :) 

Residents of nearby societies are planning to petition the authorities and our public representatives regarding stoppage of weddings at this community hall. They must also put proposal of having a library at Ground of First floor of this hall. Hope the proposal of not allowing wedding functions and starting a library at this hall is accepted; else we may have to look for a way to make that happen.

Regards,

Pankaj

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[Parul]

Haha. Thanks for the wisdom. I already tried. Anyway more effective when a president calls

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[Prem Bihari Mishra]

Parul Ji

           Mount Carmel Sec-22 is no exception. May be one step ahead. It is impossible to do meditation, pranayam and peaceful morning walk in the nearby park, during morning hours. Loudspeaker noise is absolutely unbearable in nearby houses during their time to time celebrations

        . The schools must confine to their premises for everything. I donot expect anything from the police at all. Not only the police, whole system is deaf and dumb about any sort of illegal/unwanted activities of  these schools.

           I hope Shobhit will not take it otherwise.

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Haha. Thanks for the wisdom. I already tried. Anyway more effective when a president calls

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[Shobhit Chauhan]

I am completely with you. I am not judging who is right who is wrong but if there is a problem, it has to be accepted and a solution reached. We can not and should ask to shut down every other establishment but yes, we can reduce the problem to the best possible with mutual efforts. 

Hope everyone agrees. 

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Shobhit Chauhan

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[Parul Tyagi]

I should not sound like I am laughing at Mr. Rajesh Chhikara's words, "Why do you not take the initiative and call the police". I laughed because I thought he doesn't know that I am one of the few people who does take initiative.

It's just that I hesitate calling the police for two reasons. a) They disconnected my phone mid-sentence b) The last time I called the police, they stopped the function an hour in advance, but the next day the function was even louder, and the organisers said they have "court permission". I am of course talking about the inconsiderate ex-president of Indraprastha Apartments, Sec 12, Dwarka, DDA.

I urge everyone to read this massive but very important post that I am sending now, titled "The Hypocrisy of people in Dwakra".

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Haha. Thanks for the wisdom. I already tried. Anyway more effective when a president calls

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[Parul Tyagi]

Let's start a Change.Org Petition against the use of loudspeakers in Dwarka --- and then let's take it - TOGETHER -- to the MLA or someone. Let's get all the societies to pass it as a resolution. We need some local laws of governance.

[Parul Tyagi]

Prem ji,

 if you have any suggestions for what could be done, please suggest.

These schools, residents, centres, people in this area display obnoxious behavior.

Thanks.

[Parul]

Dear MKG, please read my long e-mail about the problem existing not just in community centres but in the culture itself. Ten'o clock is too laxed.

[Parul Tyagi]

That's really nice to hear, Pankaj ji.

My Sunday though (Feb 23) was ruined: first by Bal Bharti. later, more aggressively, by Parkview Apartments (parkview president--- are you reading this, or choosing to ignore?) (had sent another mail in this regard).

My only concern is the culture that gives people the belief: "it is my right to celebrate and play loudspeakers" even at the cost of community peace.

This culture exists not just in community centres but the homes of Delhiites.

 

Does anyone have any idea about the permitted decibel levels currently?

Thanks,

Parul

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 5:19 PM, <panka...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Members,

It was surprising to notice that on Saturday 22.02.14 there was a wedding at Sector 12 Community Hall but there was no DJ during the entire period when this celebration were going on. Some loud music played at the start by the Band however later it was somewhat quite. 

Don't know whether it was due to lots of police complaints made by us or the Wedding organizers were considerate enough or SDMC have issued some strict dictates.

Whatever it was it was a pleasant change... :)

Regards,

Pankaj

[JNGupta]

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