India Village Shapefile Data
Justin Meyers
Devdatta Tengshe
Hey Justin,
Please post them. Lot of people are asking for them.
Regards,
Devdatta Tengshe
Ph: 735-358-0782
Can I post shapefile data for India Villages?
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Justin Meyers
Does anyone have a village dataset I can compare to for verification before I upload to github?
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Sutirtha Roy
Justin Meyers
Devdatta Tengshe
>>Devdatta, ... you have to have the data too!?? I personally don't have any data of Villages with me.
For two reasons:
- Having worked with this Data when I was working with ISRO on India-WRIS, and with Government of Bihar, I don't want anyone to entertain the possibility that I stole the data from there. NDAs and Official Secrets Act is a Scary thing for me personally.
- Having looked at this data, I question the possibility of a uniform All India dataset which matches other datasets. I think that probably only the Census Dept (not even the Survey Of India) has a decent All India Dataset. I do not know that by law, all Government Departments need to buy their data from Survey Of India, and that data is terrible. Hence the data at India-WRIS, or Bhuvan, or Bihar's IBhugol is not an up-to-date, usable dataset. I don't know where the ppl at BISAG got the data for National Centre of Geo-Informatics.
>>why people from India aren't posting the data when they have it
I can't answer for others, but I imagine, that this is because it is difficult to explain how this data happened to be in your ownership, when the original source is usually Survey Of India, or some other Govt Department.
>>Can it be hosted on GitHub?
Even Though I'm not a Lawyer, my understanding is that it can be. Infact, given that you are not based in the country, you would be the best person on the group to do so.
Sharad Lele
I believe Nisha Thompson and Thejesh were trying to figure out the legal dimensions related to posting these boundaries on our group. Maybe Nisha can give us an update on where things stand?
Sharad
Craig Dsouza
We've also been really keen on publishing the datasets. To answer your question as to why haven't we done it yet.
- Yes, the fear of having to answer the question of how we got the files is one reason.
- Secondly, we're working on cleaning them up and adding census attribute data to them. Like Dev said, the Bhuvan shapefile isn't an exact match to the census list of villages. But we've found that with some cleaning we still get a very usable dataset.
Once we create thematic visualizations from these its easier to show their usefulness and get broader support from academics,civil society (rather than just tech groups) asking for these datasets to be open.
Take the savethemap campaign for example. Its hard to spread awareness when not many people understand what impact it could have.
One thing making the cleaning process cumbersome is that not all of the files have both village codes 2001 and 2011 in their attribute tables. It seems that some of the files we downloaded were a work in progress. For example when I first downloaded Maharashtra it didn't have any 2011 census codes. When another of the DM Pune guys downloaded Maharashtra a few weeks later it had both 2001 and 2011 census codes.
Having said all this it's obviously no good if we do all the cleaning up and then don't have a plan for publishing it. Its about time already! I suggest we have a dialogue about this within this group about the best way to do it. Perhaps Thej, Nisha can comment?
Best
Craig
Kaushal Jain
> Hi Justin,
> Speaking from the Datameet Pune group here. We also have the files, for many states. Dev helped us with figuring out an open WFS endpoint on the Bhuvan site.
> Since then we've downloaded the data for these 10 states.
>
> - Yes, the fear of having to answer the question of how we got the files is one reason.
> - Secondly, we're working on cleaning them up and adding census attribute data to them. Like Dev said, the Bhuvan shapefile isn't an exact match to the census list of villages. But we've found that with some cleaning we still get a very usable dataset.
> Once we create thematic visualizations from these its easier to show their usefulness and get broader support from academics,civil society (rather than just tech groups) asking for these datasets to be open.
> Take the savethemap campaign for example. Its hard to spread awareness when not many people understand what impact it could have.
>
>
> One thing making the cleaning process cumbersome is that not all of the files have both village codes 2001 and 2011 in their attribute tables. It seems that some of the files we downloaded were a work in progress. For example when I first downloaded Maharashtra it didn't have any 2011 census codes. When another of the DM Pune guys downloaded Maharashtra a few weeks later it had both 2001 and 2011 census codes.
>
>
> Having said all this it's obviously no good if we do all the cleaning up and then don't have a plan for publishing it. Its about time already! I suggest we have a dialogue about this within this group about the best way to do it. Perhaps Thej, Nisha can comment?
>
>
> Best
> Craig
>
>
>
> On Friday, July 8, 2016 at 7:21:01 AM UTC+5:30, Justin Meyers wrote:
> Can I post shapefile data for India Villages?
Any mandate on if we can see the India village level shapefiles soon on github / open domain?
I am specifically looking for village levels shapefiles for Gujarat, Maharashtra, Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh.
@ Justin, Craig: Is there a possibility of sharing your datasets on this group? It would be really helpful for a lot of folks!
Best,
Kaushal
