Using KISSlicer with CubeX

[Bill Dempsey]

A few CubeX owners on the KISSlicer forums have figured out a method for using KISSlicer instead of the CubeX software. They say it drastically improves the print quality. Check out the thread here:
http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=689.0

I haven't had time to try it, yet. Let us all know if any of you try it.

[Scott@BSI]

OK - I downloaded the KISSlicer + settings.zip + CubeIt.zip from the last 2 posts int the link Bill was kind enough to post.

I installed everything, loaded an STL into KISSlicer and sliced it up (make sure to set Printer to CubeX and material to CubeX) and saved the file.

Then I ran the CubeIt executable. It spat out a BFB file that I loaded onto a USB.

Plugged in the USB to the CubeX Duo and selected the BFB file.

It's printing right now... I'll report back later today on results - but the first 1/8" of the build is the cleanest output I have seen from this machine to date!

Thanks for the heads-up Bill

[dsl...@gmail.com]

Awesome work... let us know how the print quality comes out.

[Scott@BSI]

I've attached a pic of duplicate parts - 1 output from CubeX and 1 output from KISSlicer. I apologize in advance as the pic is poor and I had already sanded on the CubeX part (to remove the nastiness that I get between the build platform and the first 1/16" or so). i didn't make any adjustment whatsoever to the machine before running the KISSlicer part. I just plugged in the USB and hit print.

The build settings were as similar as I could make them on both builds and they are both white PLA. The pic really doesn't illustrate how much cleaner the KISSlicer part is. There are none of the witness lines I get from CubeX where the inner structure meets the outer wall of the part and none of the nasty business at the base of the part. Just seems to be a nicer part overall and much closer to what I was expecting from this machine.

I'm not affiliated with KISSlicer and hadn't even heard of it until Bill posted about it. It gives you a lot more control over how the part is built via wall thickness, infill density and shape, speed, temp and a lot more...

I'm sure the CubeX software will get better with time. My CubeX Duo runs pretty much all day every day. I'm in a corporate setting here and I really need great results now, so for me this is just another step along that road...

[Bill Dempsey]

Huge improvement!
Thanks for the pics, Scott!
-Bill

[Peter Gregory]

That is impressive.

Does it support multi-color prints?

I've avoided them because the Cubex has a terrible time with starts / stops while printing.

Mixing colors in one layer has not worked well for me.

How about support structures?

Does it generate them as needed?

Do they remove easier than Cubex?

Inquiring minds want to know!

[Scott@BSI]

The guy that is writing the CubeIt code just posted something about the multi-color here: http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=689.45

The sections for support and raft are in the KISSlicer software but I have not used it.

Why must I battle w/ this thing every single time I put in a new cartridge??? Uggg

[bikejunky98]

This is AWESOME!!!! First print is 35 min in and I can SEE the quality difference already.  I'll post pics as soon as this is done printing.  BTW, NO SEAMS!!!

[bikejunky98]

Here is the finished print, 1hr 2 min to print, no seams, with supports.  The supports come of much easier than the cubify ones, and much cleaner without becoming part of the printed piece.  This is a 200% improvement over the cubify slicer, and it does work with Win7.

Thanks bill for pointing this solution out, and to whomever did the work, +1

[bikejunky98]

[thebras...@gmail.com]

Scott, Where did you find the (make sure to set Printer to CubeX and material to CubeX)settings in the Kisslicer window?

[Treemagnet]

all I can say is AWESOME I just printed my first part using KISSlicer and I can't beleave the difference in quality it's 100 times better 

[Scott@BSI]

I've attached some screenshots of settings which are based on "evanevery's - settings.zip" over on the KISSlicer forum @ http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=689.30

He continues to update the CubeIt executable as well - big thanks to him!

 

[bikejunky98]

Has anyone messed with the filament size setting? I seem to be getting less slip in the feeder by setting it to 1.65.

[bikejunky98]

Setting filament size to 1.65 and printing at .1 has finally turned out a quality print using my cubeX. Anyone else having luck with slight modification to the base settings?

[Treemagnet]

are you using pla and do you have a heated platform?

[bikejunky98]

I peeled the white plate off the glass print plate, covered it with kapton tape and a layer of aqua net. This allowed me to get a much more precise level on the bed, but it's not heated. I am printing white pla

[Treemagnet]

interesting I have the heated plate and Kapton but having a little problem with the Gray PLA sticking going to try it again with the plate cold 

[bikejunky98]

I've had a lot of success with cubeX glue by putting two layers on the tape and then letting it dry completely before printing. To remove the part, I usually use the plastic handle of the scraper to shock the piece by striking it, and it usually comes off pretty easily.

[CubeX 3D Printman]

Treemagnet,

~ 65 deg is usually a good temperature for PLA, but depends on part footprint. Does your part have a small or large footprint?

Before printing PLA, I wipe down the kapton tape with alcohol to have it clean. Also, you can try a little smaller z-gap.

[Bill Dempsey]

Be careful striking parts to remove them. I've popped the magnet off the bottom of my build platform three times doing that. It wasn't until the third time that I realized that's what was happening. I had to print a 2mm thick spacer to put in the magnet hole so I could glue the magnet back onto the plate so frequently. I put the spacer in the hole, put the magnet on top of it, put a bit of glue on top of the magnet, then place the platform carefully on top of it. I also put an even stronger magnet on top of the plate to pull the magnet below even tighter to the plate. It holds pretty well until I start side-banging a part pretty hard to release it. My parts stick perhaps too well.

As far as adhesion, I abandoned the glue because it dries out and flakes off here in the desert. Instead, I switched to blue tape with a light coat of aqua net hairspray on it for a while before trying it straight on the stock build plate. The Aqua Net works great directly on the build plate and prints come out with a smooth shiny bottom surface. That's what I've been using for the past month or so and every part has stuck perfectly with no warping. (I use PLA. I'm not sure how the results would be for ABS, but the PLA sticks so hard it's often pretty difficult to remove.) I'm loving the hairspray directly on the build platform.

[WarrenE]

For PLA, I've had good success using painters tape on the unheated white glass plate.  However, I found that if I lightly sand the tape with 100 grit sandpaper, the part will stuck much better.  Sometimes it sticks so well that it becomes difficult to remove. This works better for me than using the glue. I've recently started printing PLA on a heated plate, and I find that printing directly on the glass surface at 65-70 C works really well.  I first clean the plate with window cleaner.  The part sticks very well, and then just pops off when the plate cools to room temperature.  I find it almost impossible to remove the part when the plate is still warm.  My experience with ABS is limited to using the Cubex plate and the glue, but it seems to work well with the glue if you apply two light layers and then let the glue dry for about 1/2 an hour.

[bikejunky98]

One good trick to eliminate the magnet coming loose is to drive down to your local auto parts store and buy a rear view mirror glue kit. This glue is excellent for bonding metal to glass. I have had no issues with the magnet coming off after using this glue.

[Bill Dempsey]

Thanks for the tip Bike. I'll try that next time I pop it off.

By the way, I tried the KISSlicer on a couple of parts that the CubeX software kept slicing wrong. It worked great! The quality is more consistent, too. Big thanks to evanevery for his work! I wish I could figure out a way to get his post processor to work with Cura (my favorite slicer because it's insanely fast now.)

-Bill

[Russell Anderson]

kisslicer is brilliant, i almost wanted to junk my cubex before using it. now it prints at least equal to my UP
www.artplusdesign.com.au

[Bill Dempsey]

I was pretty close to throwing my CubeX Trio on eBay, too. Between using KISSlicer + CubeIt and downgrading to v 1.4 of the firmware so I can use regular filament spools, I'm feeling a lot better about the machine now. If I could swap out the 3DSystems electronics for Marlin based open source boards that allow me to use Cura with the machine, I'd be in heaven.

[enc...@gmail.com]

I retrofit my CubeX with a RAMBo board and use KISSlicer and RepiterHost. Youcan get RAMBo boards from UltiMachine.

[bikejunky98]

<quote>
I retrofit my CubeX with a RAMBo board and use KISSlicer and RepiterHost. Youcan get RAMBo boards from UltiMachine.</quote>

I'm currently doing the same with Ramps1.4. Any advice for me on firmware? Thinking marlin, but still trying to figure out the double y stepper setup in the firmware. Also are you using the stock hot end? If so how did you set up the thermistor?

Thanks

[Treemagnet]

cool could you  post a thread on how you are doing this I am thinking about doing the same thing

Thanks

Tom

[Tom Nuessen]

To the guys who have posted about the RAMBo replacement, how easy is it?  Swap the wires/plugs to the new board and flash it, or is it more involved?  Is there a thread or post somewhere that goes over the replacement, or did you guys just figure it out?  And are you talking about this board?  https://ultimachine.com/content/rambo-12

[bikejunky98]

This is a more difficult swap than I first imagined. I am currently sourcing wiring and connectors to build adapters for connecting the hardware to the boards, as well a learning how to set up the firmware to deal with the cubeX double y axis steppers. I have read about connecting multiple steppers to a single driver but have concerns about overheating the driver, This will allow for only one extruder, but in my case I only have the single extruder version... My other concern is setting the steppers up correctly, but I can't proceed with that until the wiring harness is finished. I'll keep you posted

[Grimm Redemption]

I didn't realize that the KIssSlicer forum had been overtaken by SPAM. So I'm just going to copy and paste my forum reply here.

I've been pulling my hair out with my new CubeX Duo.  I downloaded Kisslicer, (waiting on my Pro key because this program blows the CubeX Software right out of the water).  I've been having a problem with all my prints being offset after the first layer, so I was thinking perhaps it was a software issue since I've done everything Cubify Support has suggest fixing hasn't fix it (just short of replacing the unit).

Anyway.  I've followed the instructions, got the CubeX settings in Kisslicer.  Sliced up my test print, saved it and ran the CubeIt.exe (one that was updated 12/15/13). It created the .bfb and backup one.  Popped the .bfb into the CubeX and it says that it is unable to print the file.  It's running the 1.07 firmware.  I am a total newbie at this, so I'm sure it is something I'm doing wrong.  

Also when I run the CubeIt.exe, I do not get the option of choosing the filament material.  I just wanna print something other then a mass of failures.

[bsmith...@gmail.com]

Grimm,

Just replied to your post on KS forum.

[forema...@gmail.com]

Cubeit is executed once you run your STL through it.
Read the kisslicer forum well before installing cubeit, the latest cubeit v0.4 is on page 27 of the kisslicer forum.
Don't mix earlier cubeits with kisslicer because cubeit has been updated to work with cubex firmware 1.07
Watch the cubeit kisslicer on YouTube for more info after you installed kisslicer and cubeit v0.4

[Laurence Pearl]

I've tried contacting the kisslicer forum, but its been down for two days - can anyone point me at an alternative source of the CubeX settings and a (ideally Mac-compatible) copy of the CubeIt post-processor ?

I have also got close to just dumping my CubeX Trio with frustration, but you guys have given me fresh hope !!

[CubeX 3D Printman]

Laurence,

See Jan 13 posting of the "Where can I find all settings to print with kisslicer?"

 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/cubex-3d-printing/4bkFDsqsINg

 

Make sure to read thru the instructions and other settings document that are in the zip file.

[Jetguy]

BTW, I have nearly completed a mod to use a MakerBot Mightyboard RevE with Sailfish firmware so that you could use Makerware to control dual extruders with all the recent improvements.

You can see the entire series of mods so far in this post. https://groups.google.com/d/msg/clone3d/5JxKWZr45xs/ts2UGAtm-MUJ

Note, I initially went to a single motor Y axis then haave now switched back to using 2 motors and stacked Pololu drivers to get 2 outputs properly for the Y axis.

 

 

Notice, the actual output pins were soldered to face out so one driver connects through the mainboard, the other the motor plugs into the driver.

[Laurence Pearl]

Brilliant - thanks.

Would I be pushing my luck to ask if there is a Mac version of CubeIt - or can I get the source code so I can try and compile it on a Mac ?

With Kisslicer already available as a Mac version this would enable me to avoid the dreaded PC for all my 3d printing needs.

[Laurence Pearl]

Brilliant - thanks.

Would I be pushing my luck to ask if there is a Mac version of CubeIt - or can I get the source code so I can try and compile it on a Mac ?

With Kisslicer already available as a Mac version this would enable me to avoid the dreaded PC for all my 3d printing needs.

On Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:37:07 PM UTC, CubeX 3D Printman wrote:

[CubeX 3D Printman]

Laurence,

Sorry, don't have a Mac version.

Also, different cubeIt versions might need different settings.

 

The files and instructions in the "Where can I find all settings to print with kisslicer?" post work very well for me.

There is a newer version of cubeIt that automatically removes the code lines so you don't need a cartridge installed, and it has some other changes regarding prime and suck settings, but I have not had as good print results with the newer cubeIt version. So I am sticking with the earlier CubeIt version and files which are posted in the "Where can I find all settings to print with kisslicer?" post.

To me it's no big deal to manually remove those few code lines before copying the printfile to the memory stick for printing.

[Steven]

You can use Kisslicer for the Cubex without Cubeit.

Copy and paste the following into the Ptr G-Code Tabs (see the attached pictures frame1.jpg through frame5.jpg).

PREFIX
^Firmware:V1.07
^Checksum: NO
; [mm] mode
G21
; absolute mode
G90

SELECT EXTRUDER
# Select Extruder <EXT+1>
M<EXT+1>04 S<TEMP>
M542
M55<EXT+1> P600 S80
M543

DESELECT EXTRUDER
; Guaranteed same extruder, cooling down
; BfB-style
# Deselect Extruder <EXT+1>
M<EXT+1>04 S<TEMP>

POSTFIX
; All used extruders are already 'Cooled' to 0
M103
M104 S0
M204 S0
M304 S0

Or you can use the attached _printers.ini file.  Copy your current _printers.ini to _printers.old.  Copy the attached file into your Kisslicer directory.  You will need to change your "Bed Center" , "Bed STL Model" reference, and check the machine settings.

These settings will work very reliably.  The line "M55<EXT+1> P600 S80", the P600 is the amount of purge over the waste bin, the S80 is the speed.  Adjust to your liking.

Set Prime and Suck in the materials to what you want.  I use 0.05 for both.

Lastly, you need to print a skirt with each print (see skirt.jpg).  The Cubex will want to print a small puddle at the beginning of the print.  The skirt moves the puddle away from the part.

[Laurence Pearl]

Fantastic !! I can put the PC back in the box.

Are there additional G-code commands required for multi-extruder builds ? I have a Trio having fallen for the hype, but have so far failed to get good multi-material builds from it.

Thanks for the help.

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[Treemagnet]

hey all is it me or is kisslicer forums still down?

[CubeX 3D Printman]

Here is the Kisslicer refugee camp somebody created.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/kisslicer-refugee-camp

[Laurence Pearl]

I just bought the Kisslicer pro key which now lets me use different extruders on my CubeX Trio for the model and support.

Anybody know how to make it use different extruders for different parts of the model so I can have a 2-colour build ?

[CubeX 3D Printman]

Hello Laurence,

I don't think Kisslicer supports multiple colors on the model. You can select different extruder for model and support or raft,

It was supposed to be in future version but....

I have given up on multiple color parts early on. The printing takes very long when switching colors, and the different extruders don't seem to stay aligned even after calibrating. Similar when you use the "pause" command, most of the time it does not resume at the same position and the part is wasted. So for sure don't use the "pause" function. If you are patient, you might get some decent multi color parts, but must use CubeX software.

[steven....@dominican.edu]

Hi Bill,
Do you know the whereabouts of the software that enables kisslicer to play nice with Cubex? I know it used to be on the forum but that seems to be gone now.
Thanks in advance.

[Hugues]

Hello !

Good news ! My cubex is printing in 0.05 layer height and it's rock ! You cannot see the layer on the print and it's really smooth.

I tried 0.04 but the cubex was too speed for the layer height.

I will send picture monday !

[Treemagnet]

looking for good filament to feed my cubex I bought some botfeeder black abs and I hear a popping sound and I get these little voids I use the cubex stuff same settings and no problem except is drains my wallet

thanks

Tom

On Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:37:59 UTC-4, Bill Dempsey wrote:

A few CubeX owners on the KISSlicer forums have figured out a method for using KISSlicer instead of the CubeX software. They say it drastically improves the print quality. Check out the thread here:
http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=689.0

[Hugues]

Huge print ! you have some blobs, do you hide the seam, is the jitter 360 ? or it could be the prime and suck (the cubex mystery)

I made some smaller test prints at 0.125, 0.08 and 0.05 resolution 3 loop, 20%infill . For the last one 0.05, i forget to check my z-gap (it's always changing) so the thinner resolution is the baddest of the 3.

I printed this model at scale 1 : http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:18479

First frog took 3h30 to print, second 4h30 and the dirty one 10h...

3 tests frog comparison : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwvkEZk49WpGSXVrTlpjQXJVNXc/edit?usp=sharing 

0.125 mm : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwvkEZk49WpGNkNEZVZxR3RJU3M/edit?usp=sharing

0.08 mm : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwvkEZk49WpGWTR6c0t3dWJUVE0/edit?usp=sharing

0.05mm : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwvkEZk49WpGLThtZVN3UVFoRnM/edit?usp=sharing

I reduce the speed and i put 20s min for a layer but it's still too hot for the next layer as you can see on the frog eyes.

Le lundi 10 février 2014 07:00:50 UTC+1, ayd...@gmail.com a écrit :

72 hours of print time. Almost successfully
Kisslicer
resolution 0.25
high precision
with raft and support
Pla white
It took a new cartridge. At the end there was an filament error. The filament ended.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_1eqLgrjX6LWWQyampwMEpWZkk/edit?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_1eqLgrjX6LZGVzR1hJbkgyVTQ/edit?usp=sharing

воскресенье, 9 февраля 2014 г., 20:21:58 UTC+7 пользователь Treemagnet написал:

[dan.para...@gmail.com]

Hi Bill,

I'm about to try and use Kisslicer with my CubeX, but the forums are down!
I am hoping that I can find the latest Cubeit by some other forum...

Anyhow, I popped a magnet off too - They are only held on with cheap epoxy, on to glass! Not the best solution...
Fixed the problem forever by using a piece of polystyrene to hold the print platform snugly by the edges and bottom of the glass, but with the middle of the polystyrene scooped or cut out so the magnet and the other metal knob bit are just suspended in mid air. This way, you can really put energy into getting your part off, and you are translating that force into a large area of polystyrene, across all 4 edges. It's a fantastic solution to a weird magnet design (why not leave the magnet attached to the build platform jig on the cubex?!)

So far on wide footprint parts, you risk the spatula bending before you risk damaging the bed or magnet!
(on to spatula #2 already...)

On Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:35:39 AM UTC+10, Bill Dempsey wrote:
> Be careful striking parts to remove them. I've popped the magnet off the bottom of my build platform three times doing that.

[arturo...@gmail.com]

pls can you publish or share those zip files because the kisslicer forum says is under mantineance and I would like to use kisslicer with my cubex duo to have more options and quality

thks in advance

Arturo

[mlrog...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 11:37:59 AM UTC-4, Bill Dempsey wrote:
> A few CubeX owners on the KISSlicer forums have figured out a method for using KISSlicer instead of the CubeX software. They say it drastically improves the print quality. Check out the thread here:
> http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=689.0
>
> I haven't had time to try it, yet. Let us all know if any of you try it.

I have been reading about the KISSLICER and it working with firmware 1.7 . Haven't done a complete print yet and now my cartridge bays are bad. Bought it in October for my classroom and Cubex says too bad...out of warranty. Tried to get to KISSLICER forum and all I get is "Under Maintenance". How can I get what I need to bypass the cartridge bays?

Any info is appreciated by me and my high school students.

Marie

[mlrog...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:44:00 AM UTC-4, WarrenE wrote:
> For PLA, I've had good success using painters tape on the unheated white glass plate.  However, I found that if I lightly sand the tape with 100 grit sandpaper, the part will stuck much better.  Sometimes it sticks so well that it becomes difficult to remove. This works better for me than using the glue. I've recently started printing PLA on a heated plate, and I find that printing directly on the glass surface at 65-70 C works really well.  I first clean the plate with window cleaner.  The part sticks very well, and then just pops off when the plate cools to room temperature.  I find it almost impossible to remove the part when the plate is still warm.  My experience with ABS is limited to using the Cubex plate and the glue, but it seems to work well with the glue if you apply two light layers and then let the glue dry for about 1/2 an hour.
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 10:40:25 PM UTC-6, CubeX 3D Printman wrote:
>
> Treemagnet,
> ~ 65 deg is usually a good temperature for PLA, but depends on part footprint. Does your part have a small or large footprint?
> Before printing PLA, I wipe down the kapton tape with alcohol to have it clean. Also, you can try a little smaller z-gap.
>  
>
> On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:53:29 PM UTC-7, Treemagnet wrote:
> interesting I have the heated plate and Kapton but having a little problem with the Gray PLA sticking going to try it again with the plate cold 
>
> On Tuesday, 10 September 2013 20:20:11 UTC-4, bikejunky98 wrote:I peeled the white plate off the glass print plate, covered it with kapton tape and a layer of aqua net.  This allowed me to get a much more precise level on the bed, but it's not heated.  I am printing white pla

Can you post A pic on how you used the painters tape? I have very funds for my classroom and I need always have painters tape on hand. Thanks
Marie

[Matt Dub]

Marie,

 Attached is the files for Kisslicer I use with firmware 1.7 and you don't need the cartridges anymore.  I also put a link to the "Kisslicer Refugee Camp", the other forum is toast.  I hope this helps.

 

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/kisslicer-refugee-camp

[Matt Dub]

Sorry these are the files for the CubeIt post process that works with Kisslicer.  I downloaded Kisslicer directly from they're website, I'll try to attach it here.

The Kisslicer Refugee Camp forum posted a new version of Kisslicer, but I haven't tried that yet so not sure how that's going to work, but check it out they have versions for most OS's.

 

 

[mlrog...@gmail.com]

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:57:05 AM UTC-5, Matt Dub wrote:
> Sorry these are the files for the CubeIt post process that works with Kisslicer.  I downloaded Kisslicer directly from they're website, I'll try to attach it here.
> The Kisslicer Refugee Camp forum posted a new version of Kisslicer, but I haven't tried that yet so not sure how that's going to work, but check it out they have versions for most OS's.
>  
>  

Thank you !!!!!!!! Been able to download the free Kisslicer and the Cubeit. CubeX printer recognized file but still reading "Bay 2 No Cartridge Detected". Still working on it. Any thoughts would be great. Thanks again!!

[mlrog...@gmail.com]

It works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I GOT SO EXCITED I RAN AND GOT THE PRINCIPAL AND ANOTHER TEACHER TO SEE IT. The print was a lot better than anything I have attempted so far. Thanks you, Thank you, Thank you

On Thursday, February 20, 2014 9:57:05 AM UTC-5, Matt Dub wrote:

[Matt Dub]

Your very welcome.  I'm glad you got it working.  It does make much better prints.  HAPPY PRINTING!

[Gary Muir (GRM Products)]

Hi,

Just a reminder that if you upgrade the CubeX firmware you will need to reactivate the printer which requires the cartridge control system to be functional. If the cartridge sensor is faulty and you upgrade the firmware you will end up with a large paperweight until you correct the cartridge sensor issue and re-activate the printer. In short... if the cartridge control system is not functional don't upgrade the firmware. 

Happy printing!

Gary

[golanc...@gmail.com]

I NEED HELP!!!!!

OK I FINALLY GOT KL WORKING WELL FOR ME!!!!! Yay!!!

Today I switched out filament from abs to pla and my nozzle jammed. I pulled out the nozzle. Cleaned it out. Replaced it.......and now my cubex won't turn on. The red light is on on my display but when I hit the power button to turn it on nothing happens. I checked all connections. Please help!

[Richard V Arena]

Hi Scott, 

I just recently downloaded the Pro version of KISSlicer for our printer at work. Im also new to GCODE. As a universal software, will it know how to use the wiper on the CubeX? We have a Duo. 

Thanks! 

Richard

On Friday, September 6, 2013 2:01:24 PM UTC-4, Scott@BSI wrote:

I've attached a pic of duplicate parts - 1 output from CubeX and 1 output from KISSlicer. I apologize in advance as the pic is poor and I had already sanded on the CubeX part (to remove the nastiness that I get between the build platform and the first 1/16" or so). i didn't make any adjustment whatsoever to the machine before running the KISSlicer part. I just plugged in the USB and hit print.

The build settings were as similar as I could make them on both builds and they are both white PLA. The pic really doesn't illustrate how much cleaner the KISSlicer part is. There are none of the witness lines I get from CubeX where the inner structure meets the outer wall of the part and none of the nasty business at the base of the part. Just seems to be a nicer part overall and much closer to what I was expecting from this machine.

I'm not affiliated with KISSlicer and hadn't even heard of it until Bill posted about it. It gives you a lot more control over how the part is built via wall thickness, infill density and shape, speed, temp and a lot more...

I'm sure the CubeX software will get better with time. My CubeX Duo runs pretty much all day every day. I'm in a corporate setting here and I really need great results now, so for me this is just another step along that road...

[Scott@BSI]

Yes, it will use the wiper.

 

Here is the new home of the KISSlicer group. You will need to request to join the group...

       https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/kisslicer-refugee-camp

 

 

 

[yus...@gmail.com]

Hello Grimm,

Did you manage to solve the "Unable to print file" error? If so, how? I have the same issue on V1.07


Regards,
Yusuf

On Saturday, January 4, 2014 9:14:32 PM UTC+2, Grimm Redemption wrote:
> I didn't realize that the KIssSlicer forum had been overtaken by SPAM. So I'm just going to copy and paste my forum reply here.
>
>
> I've been pulling my hair out with my new CubeX Duo.  I downloaded Kisslicer, (waiting on my Pro key because this program blows the CubeX Software right out of the water).  I've been having a problem with all my prints being offset after the first layer, so I was thinking perhaps it was a software issue since I've done everything Cubify Support has suggest fixing hasn't fix it (just short of replacing the unit).
>
> Anyway.  I've followed the instructions, got the CubeX settings in Kisslicer.  Sliced up my test print, saved it and ran the CubeIt.exe (one that was updated 12/15/13). It created the .bfb and backup one.  Popped the .bfb into the CubeX and it says that it is unable to print the file.  It's running the 1.07 firmware.  I am a total newbie at this, so I'm sure it is something I'm doing wrong.  
>
> Also when I run the CubeIt.exe, I do not get the option of choosing the filament material.  I just wanna print something other then a mass of failures.

[giovanni...@gmail.com]

Hello,
I've V1.07 and it works.
When you save use a simple file name without blanks like Print1.bfb and don't close the black window, wait until you have the message of end of process.
If CubeIt is still open close it by clicking on "exit" on icon on the right low corner of the screen and run it again.

Giovanni

[Dan Paraschivoiu]

Hello everyone,

I get a strange error message when I slice with Kisslicer;
It is set up to run Cubeit.exe for the post process on a slice,
and the message pops up:
" Cubeit.exe failed, returning the following: 0 "

But the file seems OK, doesn't check for cartridge (I'm running an external spool) and the print seems to progress OK. The print quality isn't great, but that's probably nothing to do with this.

Just to debug, if I then take the generated gcode and run Cubeit.exe by double clicking it, and run my file through it, no error messages comes up.

So something is weird when Cubeit and Kisslicer are interacting.
I've downloaded a new version of Kisslicer, from the posts and attachments on this thread (so it probably also included an updated Cubeit.exe) and when I opened that up, it had kept my settings there (even though I didn't overwrite the old version, but rather made a new folder for it) and that was when I first started getting this message pop up.

Should I delete previous versions of Kisslicer and Cubeit from my system?
Is there a special thing to watch out for (like a registry key i should delete)?
Should I even worry about this message popping up, since the printer is printing the files?

I'm hoping someone else has seen this message popup I'm talking about

Cheers

Dan

[giovanni...@gmail.com]

Hi Dan,
when you use CubeIt from Kisslcer, do you close the black windows or it closes itself ?
Do you use blanks into the file name ?

To improve the print quality use CubeItMod V3.7 instead of CubeIt.

Giovanni

[CubeX 3D Printman]

Hello Dan,

Kisslicer will use the .ini files that are in the same directory as the Kisslicer.exe.

I remember reading somewhere that there were some incompatibility issues with some Cubeit versions and .ini files.

I use Kisslicer 1.2.01 with an older CubeIt version where you still have to manually remove a few lines in the code so it does not check for cartridges.

A little extra step, but it works without any issues and I get good prints.

"Don't fix it if it ain't broken"

Rick

[736nv...@gmail.com]

Hi Giovanni, the install proceedure scared me away for now!

I have the mod, and will try it out soon.

It isn't broken, so I'm not fixing it just yet!

[giovanni...@gmail.com]

You'll never achieve that quality of printing with the original CubeIt :

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8LUzFLYFtW3Znh4d0xHX3oydUE/edit?pli=1
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8LUzFLYFtW3VTVkLUphMGd6WjQ/edit?pli=1
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8LUzFLYFtW3bmxzRHdnMThfT3M/edit?pli=1
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8LUzFLYFtW3RHR1VGhEZk1Tdjg/edit?pli=1

You're still free to fix it or not !

[niki.p...@gmail.com]

Am Freitag, 1. November 2013 19:44:15 UTC+1 schrieb Bill Dempsey:
> I was pretty close to throwing my CubeX Trio on eBay, too. Between using KISSlicer + CubeIt and downgrading to v 1.4 of the firmware so I can use regular filament spools, I'm feeling a lot better about the machine now. If I could swap out the 3DSystems electronics for Marlin based open source boards that allow me to use Cura with the machine, I'd be in heaven.

can you tell me where to find firmware 1.4 / old software ?
thanks in advance
niki

>
> On Sunday, October 27, 2013 11:00:29 PM UTC-7, Russell Anderson wrote:
> kisslicer is brilliant, i almost wanted to junk my cubex before using it. now it prints at least equal to my UP
> www.artplusdesign.com.au

[Peter Gregory]

Check out the KISSlicer Refugee google group.
There is a thread called: Cura - Looking for Bits from Bytes users
There you will find links and instructions to get a version of Cura that works with Cubex.

[giovanni...@gmail.com]

Hi Niki,
if your purpose is print without original cartridges, don't downgrade, just use Kisslicer + CubeItMod V3.7.
Not only you can print without original cartridges but you'll improve the quality of your printings.

Giovanni

[hawk...@gmail.com]

Hi
Has anyone else encountered an issue where the Cubex Duo doesnt print for a few mm when moving either to the loops or infill? IF you have how do you fix this. I tried to read up on it but the Kisslicer forum is still down.

[hawk...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, 12 April 2014 11:30:36 UTC+2, hawk...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi
> Has anyone else encountered an issue where the Cubex Duo doesnt print for a few mm when moving either to the loops or infill? IF you have how do you fix this. I tried to read up on it but the Kisslicer forum is still down.

Sorry forgot to add that I am using the Cubex Natural PLA material

[giovanni...@gmail.com]

The Kisslicer forum is here :

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=fr#!forum/kisslicer-refugee-camp

What are your values for M227 S & P and M228 S & P ?

[coppe...@shambhalamusicfestival.com]

has anyone ever come up with a similer solution for the 2nd generation cube printer??

[nichola...@uconn.edu]

Hello Scott,

I was curious if you could provide details where download everything necessary (settings.zip + cubelt.zip ) to run a cubex with kisslicer. I think Bill had posted is unavailable saying the site is down for maintenance. If you could possibly help me out it would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks, Nick

[Giovanni]

Hi Nick,

subscribe to this group :

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=fr#!forum/kisslicer-refugee-camp

Then you'll find the files and the instruction into this thread :"Cubeitmod V4.5"

This is the latest version and is a lot better than Cubeit.

[dian...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:40:39 PM UTC-6, Scott@BSI wrote:
> OK - I downloaded the KISSlicer + settings.zip + CubeIt.zip from the last 2 posts int the link Bill was kind enough to post.
>
>
> I installed everything, loaded an STL into KISSlicer and sliced it up (make sure to set Printer to CubeX and material to CubeX) and saved the file.
>
>
> Then I ran the CubeIt executable. It spat out a BFB file that I loaded onto a USB.
>
>
> Plugged in the USB to the CubeX Duo and selected the BFB file.
>
>
> It's printing right now... I'll report back later today on results - but the first 1/8" of the build is the cleanest output I have seen from this machine to date!
>
>
> Thanks for the heads-up Bill

On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 12:40:39 PM UTC-6, Scott@BSI wrote:
> OK - I downloaded the KISSlicer + settings.zip + CubeIt.zip from the last 2 posts int the link Bill was kind enough to post.
>
>
> I installed everything, loaded an STL into KISSlicer and sliced it up (make sure to set Printer to CubeX and material to CubeX) and saved the file.
>
>
> Then I ran the CubeIt executable. It spat out a BFB file that I loaded onto a USB.
>
>
> Plugged in the USB to the CubeX Duo and selected the BFB file.
>
>
> It's printing right now... I'll report back later today on results - but the first 1/8" of the build is the cleanest output I have seen from this machine to date!
>
>
> Thanks for the heads-up Bill

[dian...@gmail.com]

On Monday, September 9, 2013 5:08:46 AM UTC-6, Treemagnet wrote:
> all I can say is AWESOME I just printed my first part using KISSlicer and I can't beleave the difference in quality it's 100 times better 

>
> On Wednesday, 4 September 2013 11:37:59 UTC-4, Bill Dempsey wrote:
> A few CubeX owners on the KISSlicer forums have figured out a method for using KISSlicer instead of the CubeX software. They say it drastically improves the print quality. Check out the thread here:
> http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=689.0
>
> I haven't had time to try it, yet. Let us all know if any of you try it.

I am new to this do we use regular USB or the one that cubex uses? And how do you get the print to go to the cube do I hook up a cord or just the USB, sorry

[Bob Ash]

The CubeX doesn't hook directly to the computer except to do a BIOS update.  To print the file you put it on a USB drive and then load and print it by using the "Print" command on the LCD screen.

[dian...@gmail.com]

On Tuesday, September 10, 2013 6:20:11 PM UTC-6, bikejunky98 wrote:
> I peeled the white plate off the glass print plate, covered it with kapton tape and a layer of aqua net. This allowed me to get a much more precise level on the bed, but it's not heated. I am printing white pla

how did you remove the white plate? you mean the cubex plate? if so plz tell me how. mine is so scratched up, and have pit holes all over....had for a while thanks

[bikejunky98]

First I would caution against removing it if you are unable to get consistent zgap settings as it does provide a degree of cushion for the hot end. Have you relocated the z sensor and been able to get consistent performance?

To remove I heated up the glass with a hair dryer to warm the glue and then slid a putty knife under a corner and worked it off. You will need a razor blade to clear the surface of remaining glue deposits. Then clean it with soapy warm water.

Apply the kapton with water and then squeegee out the air bubbles to get a nice flat surface. DO NOT allow the head to contact the surface as it is much harder than the white plate and is certain to damage the head if it collides with any force. Also be sure to get the bed very level before resetting the z gap again to avoid collision.

I have also found that the cube glue works very well on the kapton and can be reactivated with a light spray of water from a clean spray bottle, allowing you to save on glue over multiple prints. Don't spray the plate with water while it's mounted in the printer though.

You will also want to determine the best bed roughness setting through some experimentation to get a good clean base layer print.

[agarg...@gmail.com]

Hi Guys,

Is there a way to use KISSlicer to modify the extrusion RPM throughout a print? I have an issue where the RPM is set 0.4, and this causes the extruded material to come out very spotty and patchy. I can fix this manually during the print from the CubeX's screen, but my prints would be of much better quality. I'm also open to other ideas on how to correct this issue! thanks

Amit

[Giovanni]

Hi,

0.4 RPM is not a problem, the cubex can print well with this extrusion, your problem is elsewhere.

Give more details.

[Lie Fecund]

Can Kisslicer BFB accepted by Cubex with 1.08 Firmware ?
I've plan to update my cubex firmware from 1.07 to 1.08.
Should i ?

[Hugues]

Never tried the 1.08 as I didn't know it exist. But I wouldn't try ! The 1.07 works great with KS

[Lie Fecund]

Hmm okay, thanks for your reply, I'll stay at 1.07 firmware.
By the way, i heard that you build some site that selling stuff for cubex customize, may i know it ?
Thank you hugues.

[Gary]

From what I understand the security bug that allows the use of third party filament was fixed in firmware version 1.08.

So DON'T update the firmware, 1.07 is the highest you can use.

 

              Gary Muir

 

              GRM Products

              Hudson NH (USA)

              1-978-293-6741

              http://www.GRMProducts.com

              Heated Bed Install Video link  http://youtu.be/O54pmUfaIvk

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[Hugues]

Yes me and Rodney are going to open a shop, we will sell compatible electronic, hotend, wire and other stuff to upgrade your Cubex. You will also find tutorials about Cubex and Kisslicer.
The shop will be open to other seller, I want it as an alternative resource center for Cubex.

I hope open it at the end of the month, now I'm a little busy with my newborn baby :-).

[Lie Fecund]

Hi Gary,
Okay, ill keep using this firmware.
thanks for your kindly reply :D

[Lie Fecund]

Okay, please message me if u already open ur shop.
Thanks a lot Hugues :D

[agarg...@gmail.com]

Hi Giovanni,

You were right. My issue was that the filament I have is brittle and broken in multiple places along the length inside the printer's tubing, and thus was fully coming through the print jet.

Amit

[Da...@majormorgan.co.uk]

On Wednesday, September 4, 2013 4:37:59 PM UTC+1, Bill Dempsey wrote:
> A few CubeX owners on the KISSlicer forums have figured out a method for using KISSlicer instead of the CubeX software. They say it drastically improves the print quality. Check out the thread here:
> http://kisslicer.com/forum/index.php?topic=689.0
>
> I haven't had time to try it, yet. Let us all know if any of you try it.

Hi, I have a cube x with a heated bed. I am using the latest Kisslicer and cubeit(4.8) What settings do people use for the best possible prints? Bed temp and nozzle temp for PLA and or ABS? Does anyone have the ini files I could download? PLEASE HELP!