Additive QM/MM setup

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Dave McKay

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Dec 10, 2014, 4:57:26 AM12/10/14
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Dear all,

A few of us from my group attended the CP2K course in London in the Autumn and were particularly interested in the dissociation free energy exercise (http://www.cp2k.org/exercises:2014_ethz_mmm:index - Lecture 13).  We have since repeated this and also done the gas phase part with DFT-D3 (BP86 and PBE).

We are now interested in combining our DFT input with the FIST input from the lecture in an additive QM/MM scheme (we want to use the additive scheme because we'd like to move on to anions for which we have no MM parameters).

In the notes we received there was a description of the input for a subtractive QM/MM and also theoretical background for electrostatic embedding and an intro to GEEP.  However I can't find an example of how to run this.  I've taken some pointers from the example here: http://www.cp2k.org/exercises:2014_uzh_molsim:chp_cu111

My input as it stands is attached - I think the sections I have so far are OK(?) but I also think there are sections missing (QMMM? GEEP?).

I'd be grateful for any pointers.

Thanks,

Dave
NaCl_gas_DFT_2-5_inwater.inp

Teodoro Laino

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Dec 10, 2014, 11:53:08 AM12/10/14
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Dave,

1) Strictly speaking the "QM/MM" scheme implemented in CP2K is additive only: E_tot=E_QM+E_MM+E_QMMM(QM-MM)

2) subtractive schemes: E_tot=E_MM(QM+MM)+E_QM-E_MM(MM), can be done with cp2k too, but they are worldwide known as ONIOM models (rather than QM/MM). Unfortunately, the title of the exercise you referred to, is at least misleading and has not really too much to do with QM/MM. As you guessed there will be many missing sections if you take this as an example for building your own QM/MM input.

3) there were on the portal - somewhere, not sure where though - the exercises we did in the last tutorial in Zurich (you may want to check with the webmaster for their precise location). We had 3 “real” QM/MM input files there, which may help you.

3) your input is - unfortunately - not attached

a good starting point for the theory is in the two papers describing the QM/MM coupling in cp2k. Feel free to ask for any question.

rgds,
Teo

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Dave McKay

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Dec 10, 2014, 12:10:37 PM12/10/14
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Hi Teo,

Thanks for the info and for the clarification on the meaning of 'additive qm/mm'.  I'm going to have a look at the test files, do some reading and hunt around for the tutorials you suggest.

Yes, I realised I hadn't attached my input an hour or so after posting... You must have beaten me to it.

Thanks anyway and I'll no doubt come back with questions in the future.

Dave

max mercy

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Dec 18, 2014, 9:37:50 AM12/18/14
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Hi Dave,

Have you found the internet link for the exercises QM/MM as Teo suggest?
Can you share it?

Thanks

Maxime

Dave McKay

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Dec 20, 2014, 5:21:11 AM12/20/14
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Hi Maxime,

The 2011 workshop on qm/mm is here: http://www.cecam.org/workshop-4-515.html

where you can find all the lectures.

It looks like the workshop that's been advertised in the Google groups site and is on here: http://www.cp2k.org/events/

I have to admit I haven't tried it yet, so I don't know if the page has exactly what I was looking for, but it's on my to-do list!

Joyeux Noel!

Dave


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