OT: Github Alternatives

[Adrian Mowat]

Hi All,

Sorry for the off topic thread but my company is looking at alternatives to gihub that are a) hosted internally and b) cheaper (!)

I was wondering what everyone else is using out there?  The features we use most on github are easy creation and navigation of repos, commit/diff browsing and user/team management facilities

Many Thanks

Adrian

[Leonardo Borges]

I can't speak for price but I've worked in a couple of clients who used Stash [1], which is Atlassian's internal version of Bitbucket. I had no issues while using that.

[1]: https://www.atlassian.com/software/stash

[2]: https://bitbucket.org/

Leonardo Borges
www.leonardoborges.com

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[Di Xu]

gitlab[1]?

​[1]​ https://about.gitlab.com/

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[Linus Ericsson]

gitolite? I think we used it on one of my jobs.

https://github.com/sitaramc/gitolite

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[François Rey]

Tuleap is fully open source and integrates gitolite, gerrit, hudson/jenkins, etc. along with an agile dashboard, trackers, and more.

[Andrey Antukh]

We are using gitlab and it's works very well! ;)

Andrey

2014-06-30 15:01 GMT+02:00 François Rey <fmj...@gmail.com>:

Tuleap is fully open source and integrates gitolite, gerrit, hudson/jenkins, etc. along with an agile dashboard, trackers, and more.

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http://www.niwi.be

https://github.com/niwibe

[Adrian Mowat]

Lots of great suggestions here!  Thanks guys

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[Torsten Uhlmann]

We successfully used http://assembla.com in the past.

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[François Rey]

On 30/06/14 13:10, Torsten Uhlmann wrote:
> We successfully used http://assembla.com in the past.

Except this cannot be hosted internally as requested by the OP...

[Mikhail Kryshen]

I would recommend Fossil (http://fossil-scm.org/) — a distributed
version control system with integrated distributed bug tracker, wiki and
blog, all of which are accessed through a built-in web server.

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[Torsten Uhlmann]

Assembla also offers a private package which you can download and run on your own machines: 

http://blog.assembla.com/assemblablog/tabid/12618/bid/10151/Introducing-Private-Assembla-your-own-Assembla-server-in-Download-Cloud-and-Managed-packages.aspx

[Phang Mulianto]

Hi,

Can try Tracscm   [ trac.edgewall.org/ ]

or gitlab is good, the interface is clean, but it runs on java

[Andrey Antukh]

2014-06-30 19:17 GMT+02:00 Phang Mulianto <brav...@gmail.com>:

Hi,

Can try Tracscm   [ trac.edgewall.org/ ]

or gitlab is good, the interface is clean, but it runs on java

As far as I know gitlab is written in ruby and not in java.

And it has good install scripts that makes all had work of configure it, very easy. 

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[Jonathan Abbey]

We've been using GitLab in our laboratory for some time now, and I recommend it very highly indeed.  Getting it set up was a bit of a pain because they did not have RedHat packages when we first installed it, and we were setting it up on a server that did not have Internet access. installation depends on having access to a RubyGems mirror, but once we got that worked out it's been smooth sailing.  GitLab's architecture is very very nicely put together.  They've got a directory that contains all of the Git repos, a 'gitlab-shell' facility for manipulating and browsing the repos, and scripts for performing backups and restores of both the Git repositories and the PostgreSQL database tables.  They've got hooks for connecting to external build servers and bug tracking systems, and a full web API for accessing the system.  And, of course, they've got ssh key support for high performance Git operations over ssh in addition to over https. They're also very good with their development and release cycle, with a new release coming out like clockwork on the 22nd of the month.

So.. yeah.  Very highly recommended.

[Rainer Schuster]

We are using http://gitblit.com (written in Java)The new release finally supports ssh!

[blake]

FWIW, TurnKey has a gitlab appliance that has worked pretty well for me.

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Jonathan Abbey <jong...@ganymeta.org> wrote:

We've been using GitLab in our laboratory for some time now, and I recommend it very highly indeed.  Getting it set up was a bit of a pain because they did not have RedHat packages when we first installed it, and we were setting it up on a server that did not have Internet access. installation depends on having access to a RubyGems mirror, but once we got that worked out it's been smooth sailing.  GitLab's architecture is very very nicely put together.  They've got a directory that contains all of the Git repos, a 'gitlab-shell' facility for manipulating and browsing the repos, and scripts for performing backups and restores of both the Git repositories and the PostgreSQL database tables.  They've got hooks for connecting to external build servers and bug tracking systems, and a full web API for accessing the system.  And, of course, they've got ssh key support for high performance Git operations over ssh in addition to over https. They're also very good with their development and release cycle, with a new release coming out like clockwork on the 22nd of the month.

So.. yeah.  Very highly recommended.

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[Charles Harvey III]

You could abandon Git and save yourself a lot of money and pain.

Start using Bazaar! http://bzrinit.com/  (http://bazaar.canonical.com/en/)

"Hosting" is seriously you setting up an ftp server (sftp, ssh, scp) - whatever. There is web viewer plugin: https://launchpad.net/loggerhead. it is basically an apache module.

Seriously, take a look at Bzr. All the features of Git with much nicer commands and it won't ever lose your history. And hosting it yourself is just so easy.

[Thorsten Jolitz]

Too bad that even GNU Emacs development is moving (has already moved?)
from bzr to git. See

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| From: e...@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond)
| Subject: bzr is dying; Emacs needs to move
| Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel
| To: emacs...@gnu.org
| Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 04:53:47 -0500 (EST) (25 weeks, 5 days, 1 hour ago)
|
| I am posting this because I think it is my duty as a topic expert in
| version-control systems and the surrounding tools to do so, not because
| I have any desire to be in the argument that is certain to ensue.
|
| The bzr version control system is dying; by most measures it is
| already moribund. [...]
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and the following long thread on gmane.emacs.devel.

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[Charles Harvey III]

That is truly sad if Bzr dies out. I have had such horrible experiences with Git that I still can't understand what people like about it. Well, aside from the fact that it is not SVN and that there is github.

[Andrey Antukh]

In my opinion, saying "I have problems with it, then, it is bad" is very bad argument. I'm not defending git, I'm only criticizing your arguments.

The only way to save money and pain, is knowing well the tools that you are using. And git doesn't make any magic.

;)

Andrey

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[Softaddicts]

Agree,

we have been using git with private repos in gitolite or gitosis for several years
using cmd line or Eclipse egit.

Git by itself is very flexible and well designed.

A huge improvement over SVN which we were using before.

I need a cheat sheet to track the not so common stuff done via
cmd line but this is the only thing I can criticize about git.
Or it's my bad memory that can't seem to record them :)

Just installed gitlab community edition yesterday and loaded our
repos in it.

That's nice to have a cute GUI on top of git. This will get around
most of this cmd line "weakness" and repo management will be easier.


Luc P.

[Rainer Schuster]

Git is like clojure. You have to know your tools in order to do something meaningful with it. But you could just use Java to get your job done. So its your decision. Don't blame someone/-thing for not fitting your style or skill set.

[Frank Castellucci]

wush.net

[Adrian Mowat]

What were the horrible experiences? I agree that git allows you to make a mess if you want to but then again Unix has rm -Rf and we all learned quickly enough to use it carefully

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[Alex Miller]

Can we take this thread elsewhere now? Let's stay on the Clojures...  Thanks...

[Charles Harvey III]

I didn't mean to derail this post asking for hosting options. I certainly do not want it to go down a git-hole.

I have had a good amount of experience with CVS, SVN, Git and Bazaar. Years worth. Usually when you complain about Git the first thing you hear is that I wasn't doing it right or that its a flexible tool and I just have to learn it. The amount of Git vitriol out there must be somewhat justified.

I just found Bazaar to be really friendly. Commands work like they do in SVN so it is easy to make the move. And I don't see a lot of Bazaar hate out there. Then again, hardly anyone is using it. :)

Original poster, Adrian, you are using Git and you are happy with it. I don't actually have any private hosting options for you besides setting up an sftp server of your own.

But that is usually a great idea. You just need a browser/viewer ala viewcvs:

    http://viewgit.fealdia.org/
    https://github.com/toolmantim/bananajour
    http://git.zx2c4.com/cgit/about/
    https://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gitweb
    https://github.com/chad/gitjour

Total control of your repository and essentially free - you just pay for hard drives/backups.

[Adrian Mowat]

@charles yes, I'm more than happy with git - it's really the code browser end other features github provides that I'm interested in replacing. I'm not keen to get down a git hole either (must remember that term) and with the benefit of hindsight I can see my previous post was unhelpful.

@alex I've had some very good feedback from everyone on this so I'm very happy to put this discussion to sleep now if everyone else is

Thanks everyone!

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[Jonathan Winandy]

I am feeling the same thing about git, while having no problems using it.

I used mercurial before, to me, the command were  simpler, as well as the model. 

For example, a branch can have several heads in mercurial, and it separates more easily fetch and merge. You don't have a origin/master and your master, but the master branche and corresponding heads.

Rebase was not a standard command in mercurial and to me that's a good thing.

So when some say git is like Clojure, for me it's more git is like Scala. It's ok to program in the language, you then learn all the plumbing part and start to be efficient in it.

Jon

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