Need very little help in Yogasutra patanjali and Vyasa bhasya

[Ashwini Dole Zambre]

Respected all

I m a student of philosophy in Savitribai Phule Pune University.

I am unable to find the the difference for the Yoga sutra no.2 i.e योगश्चित्तवृत्तीनिरोधः|2|| from Patanjal yog sutra.. I know the meaning what Patanjali said but I want to know what VedVyasa means for the same and Vachaspati Mishra also in Tattva Vaisaradi.. 

Pls help..

I read some marathi texts but philosophical words make me confused. 

[ajit.gargeshwari]

Vyasa Bhashya author of Bhasya of Patanjali Yoga Sutras is not Veda Vyasa.
Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari

[Nityanand Misra]

On Friday, 24 March 2017 21:45:25 UTC+5:30, Ashwini Dole Zambre wrote:

Please be specific. What exactly do you not understand? If you quote the commentary sentences, would be easier for scholars to answer your question. 

Also I hope you have seen Ganganath Jha's translation of Vyasa Bhashya.  

[Ashwini Dole Zambre]

Namaskaram

I want write an assignment for the topic is योगश्चित्तवृत्तीनिरोधः the sutra in yogsutra. And show the comparison in patanjali view, Vyasa bhasya view and vachaspati mishra. I am asking for the help because the person who is teaching this subject is newly appointed and background of political and social philosophy. So he gives some wrong interpretations in the lecture

Thanks and regards 

Ashwini

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[Ashwini Dole Zambre]

Kind attn. Shri Ajit Gargeshwari

Dear sir

I know this fact what u have mentioned that Vyasa rushi is not Ved Vyasa.  I have the book of Yogacharya Krishnaji K. Kolhatkar.. but it is my study which i have to complete as per the syllabus.  So pls help me.

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[Ajit Gargeshwari]

As Sri Nityanand ji has suggested please read Ganganath Jha's translation of Vyasa Bhashya. That will help is my opinion

Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari
न जायते म्रियते वा कदाचिन्नायं भूत्वा भविता वा न भूयः।
अजो नित्यः शाश्वतोऽयं पुराणो न हन्यते हन्यमाने शरीरे।।2.20।।

[sunil bhattacharjya]

Dear Ajitiji,

I understand that Vedavyasa had a guru named Patanjali, who was born more than 5,000 years ago in the Kodar village, of Vajirganj Gonda district of Uttar Pradesh To my understanding, the name Patanjalai  also appears in the Mahabharata.

Regards,

Sunil KB

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[Achyut Karve]

The chitta has an inherent property of chasing it's object this is called uparaga उपराग.   Man has the ability to restrict this property of the chitta.  In this sutra patanjali is saying that yoga is nothing but the continuous conscious effort to disallow the chitta from chasing it's object.

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[ajit.gargeshwari]

Thanks Sunil Ji your this is not the focus of this thread
Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari

[Subrahmanyam Korada]

नमो विद्वद्भ्यः

अथ योगानुससनम् - is the first सूत्रम् 

योग is of two types -- संप्रज्ञात and असंप्रज्ञात ।

योगः चित्तवृत्तिनिरोधः --

योग means ' arresting the behavior of mind ' --

mind , by nature , is fickle -- चञ्चलं हि मनः पार्थ ! (भगवद्गीता ) ।

Here the term योग is from the root -- युज = समाधौ (and not युजिर् योगे)

Now Vyasa says - since the qualifier ' सर्व ’ is not prefixed , the definition is applicable to both - संप्रज्ञात and असंप्रज्ञात --

what he means is this --

had Patanjali ruled  -- योगः सर्वचितवृत्तिनिरोधः  then it would have been applicable to असंप्रज्ञातयोग only .

In संप्रज्ञातयोग there will not be सर्वचित्तवृत्तिनिरोध  but in the other it will be .

Here समाधि means वृत्तिनिरोध only  and it is अङ्गी ।

There is a समाधि which is अङ्ग --

यमनियमासनप्राणायामप्रत्याहारधारणाध्यानसमाधयो’ष्टावङ्गानि  2-29

Vyasa also explains that the mind has got three गुणs -

प्रख्याशीलत्वात् सत्त्वगुणम् ( प्रख्या = ज्ञानम् ) , प्रवृत्तिशीलत्वात् रजोगुणम् and स्थितिशीलत्वात् तमोगुणम् ।

In other words - although it is one , it is built with three गुणs and due to the three गुणs , which are hostile to each other , it would have विचित्रपरिणाम ।

A चित्तम् with वैराग्यम्  would arrest all kinds of ख्याति and thus the चित्तम् will be निर्बीज and it is समाधि  and the same is called असंप्रज्ञातयोग by योगिन्s.

Vacaspati explained Vyasa's भाष्यम् ।

It may be suggested that such texts may be studied under a गुरु rather than following translations . Face to face interaction is essential.

It is difficult to cover all the material in such a posting .

धन्यो’स्मि

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University of Hyderabad,
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[Ashwini Dole Zambre]

Respected sir, 

I am very much thankful to you and all those who really really helps me. But sorry for the late reply because from morning I was in lecture.  

My special thanks to Dr. Korada for the accurate analysis. Sir giving mere thanks to you is really  not sufficient..  Your analysis is very much helpful to me.

Thanks and Regards

Ashwini

[Ashok Gudsoorkar]

Nityanandji, 

Where will I be able to buy an English Translation of VyasaBhashya along with original?   Motilal Banarasidas?

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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[Ajit Gargeshwari]

Please search archives or DLI you will get many translations

Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari
न जायते म्रियते वा कदाचिन्नायं भूत्वा भविता वा न भूयः।
अजो नित्यः शाश्वतोऽयं पुराणो न हन्यते हन्यमाने शरीरे।।2.20।।

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 2:51 PM, 'Ashok Gudsoorkar' via भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत् <bvpar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Nityanandji, 

Where will I be able to buy an English Translation of VyasaBhashya along with original?   Motilal Banarasidas?

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

On 24-Mar-2017, at 16:47, Nityanand Misra <nmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Friday, 24 March 2017 21:45:25 UTC+5:30, Ashwini Dole Zambre wrote:

Respected all

I m a student of philosophy in Savitribai Phule Pune University.

I am unable to find the the difference for the Yoga sutra no.2 i.e योगश्चित्तवृत्तीनिरोधः|2|| from Patanjal yog sutra.. I know the meaning what Patanjali said but I want to know what VedVyasa means for the same and Vachaspati Mishra also in Tattva Vaisaradi.. 

Pls help..

I read some marathi texts but philosophical words make me confused. 

Please be specific. What exactly do you not understand? If you quote the commentary sentences, would be easier for scholars to answer your question. 

Also I hope you have seen Ganganath Jha's translation of Vyasa Bhashya.  

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[sunil bhattacharjya]

The relevance is in the sense, that it suggests a possble higher antiquity of Patanjali's Yogasutra, than normally assumed. It is possible that like the three Kalidasas, there could have been more than one Patanjali.

Regards,

[Ajit Gargeshwari]

More than one Patanjali etc have been discussed on this list. Please see BVP archives. If you have anew article and anything substantial else what purpose will it serve in discussing the same issues over and over. Thanks

Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari
न जायते म्रियते वा कदाचिन्नायं भूत्वा भविता वा न भूयः।
अजो नित्यः शाश्वतोऽयं पुराणो न हन्यते हन्यमाने शरीरे।।2.20।।

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Ashwini's question has been thoroughly answered by scholars. The thread is closed now.

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 11:10 PM, sunil bhattacharjya <skbhatt...@gmail.com> wrote: