Mavericks, QS and OpenMeta tags

[Ian uɐI]

Hi, I love the Openmeta plugin, and as Mavericks tags are almost identical I was wondering what the QS devs were planning in terms of how to handle Mavericks tags, will the openmeta plugin take over setting kMDItemOMUserTags as well as _kMDItemUserTags -- or will this be rolled into the core functionality?

Also, any way for QS to update any existing openmeta plugins is has assigned to also be recognised by Mavericks (i.e. copy kMDItemOMUserTags > _kMDItemUserTags)?

Thanks to the developers as always for their excellent work on QS, you guys really are going from strength-to-strength; lovely to see the swells of activity on Github...

Ian

[Patrick Robertson]

We're in the process of making a new File Tagging plugin, (well, Rob has already done most of it) The plan is to get it Shipped with QS when Mavericks ships, and the idea to keep the two separate plugins. Some users may still prefer OpenMeta and others will of course want to switch to Mavericks' built in tagging.

You can read some more info at https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver/pull/1595

Unfortunately I don't think it likely we'll be making any tools for moving tags from OpenMeta to Mavericks format, although from what you say it seems it'd be an easy job for someone to write a script to do the conversion. Maybe ask the OpenMeta guys? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/openmeta

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[Ian uɐI]

For some reason, I can't join the openmeta google group to post a request, not sure why. But anyway great news to see Rob was on the case so promptly. 

The idea of having two plugins seems a bit awkward for us users. Because the OpenMeta and Mavericks tag is almost identical, having the new plugin set both in Mavericks means that those tags will be backwards tag compatible < 10.9 -- so if you dropbox sync your tagged files between a 10.8 and 10.9 machine you can use openmeta on 10.8 and Mavericks on 10.9). This would seem to obviate the need for the user to "choose" which tagging mechanism they will employ.

It seems that Ironic software apps like Leap will auto convert all openmeta tags to Mavericks, as will Houdahspot. For anyone who wants to hack this manually, there is a shell script available to do so:

https://gist.github.com/Zettt/5880737

When you have tagged files scattered over many directories it would be nice to search by tag first, then convert, rather than do this by directory, I suspect the mechanisms to smart update openmeta tags will improve once Mavericks gets into the wild.

Thanks!

[Rob McBroom]

On Oct 17, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Patrick Robertson <robertso...@gmail.com> wrote:

We're in the process of making a new File Tagging plugin, (well, Rob has already done most of it)

Most of it, nothin’! It’s ready as far as I’m concerned. :-)

There is a more official way to set tags available in 10.9, so we’ll surely want to take advantage eventually, but it works as is.

On Oct 17, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Ian uɐI <ian...@gmail.com> wrote:

The idea of having two plugins seems a bit awkward for us users. Because the OpenMeta and Mavericks tag is almost identical, having the new plugin set both in Mavericks means that those tags will be backwards tag compatible < 10.9 -- so if you dropbox sync your tagged files between a 10.8 and 10.9 machine you can use openmeta on 10.8 and Mavericks on 10.9). This would seem to obviate the need for the user to "choose" which tagging mechanism they will employ.

Personally, I think that’s an edge case, and a temporary one at that. Not worth the effort. But anyone who disagrees strongly enough has both plug-ins to copy code from. :-)

It seems that Ironic software apps like Leap will auto convert all openmeta tags to Mavericks, as will Houdahspot. For anyone who wants to hack this manually, there is a shell script available to do so:

https://gist.github.com/Zettt/5880737

When you have tagged files scattered over many directories it would be nice to search by tag first, then convert, rather than do this by directory, I suspect the mechanisms to smart update openmeta tags will improve once Mavericks gets into the wild.

I started on a Python script to do this, but didn’t get very far. I assume someone will beat me to it. I found that Gist and, like you, wondered why the hell you would work on directories instead of just searching by tag.

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Rob McBroom
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[paulw]

I know next to nothing about the command line, but would this be useful?

https://github.com/jdberry/tag

[Patrick Robertson]

There’s a Mavericks File Tagging plugin almost ready for release, so we’ve done the coding work already. That link may well be useful to look over some teething problems we’ve had though. Thanks.

It shouldn’t be too long before the plugin is reviewed and released.

[paulw]

Great news!

On Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:30:27 AM UTC-6, Ian uɐI wrote:

[paulw]

Just wondering what's the status of the file tagging in Quicksilver now? 

[Rob McBroom]

On 7 Jan 2014, at 13:15, paulw wrote:

> Just wondering what's the status of the file tagging in Quicksilver
> now? 

Completed (in it’s third, and hopefully final, home) but not yet
reviewed/approved for release.

https://github.com/quicksilver/elements.hfsattributes-qsplugin/pull/3

So the status is “you need to bug someone to take a look at it”. :-)

[paulw]

Thanks, Rob!!

[Patrick Robertson]

> So the status is “you need to bug someone to take a look at it”. :-) 

No need, Rob did that for you

...cleverly executed ;-)

It should be released tomorrow I guess, you may need to bug someone to release it ;-)

[Paul Wirth]

I was hoping… thanks!

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