catalog preferences: index but don't include in global catalog

[pendolino]

i am hoping someone knows how to answer this question. i am looking
for a way to prevent certain large catalogs from appearing in the
'global catalog' when quicksilver is invoked and only appear when you
page into the respective catalog.

my specific actual case could illustrate this better. i currently have
a trigger set for ctrl-D that bring up my 'social
bookmarks' (delicious) catalog only in the quicksilver first pane
(social bookmarks plugin is needed/installed) and this gives me
instant keyboard access to more than a thousand bookmarks i've stored
on delicious. i rank this as one of my top three most used QS features
and love it.

the problem is that these same results also appear when i launch the
main QS display using command-space. the are shown among the other
results and i would rather they only show up when i invoke ctrl-D for
the bookmarks catalog alone.

poking around the preferences of QS i found that 'include in global
catalog', when switched off, removes them from the main QS pane but
also does the same to the entire trigger-based catalog so its of no
use to me.

what i need to figure out is how to 'maintain an index of contents'
that can be accessed from the bookmarks trigger while having 'global
catalog' inclusion off. the former option to maintain index seems to
be grayed out all the time in preferences.

anyone have any clue?

[Rob McBroom]

On Jan 31, 2010, at 6:02 AM, pendolino wrote:

> what i need to figure out is how to 'maintain an index of contents'
> that can be accessed from the bookmarks trigger while having 'global
> catalog' inclusion off. the former option to maintain index seems to
> be grayed out all the time in preferences.

The only example of similar behavior I can think of is the iTunes module. You can access artists, albums, and songs, but they don’t clog your catalog.

I think this has to do with the way the plug-in was written and not with any combination of settings in Quicksilver. We don’t have the source, so I don’t know if Quicksilver stores all your iTunes data, or processes it on the fly as you arrow into things. My guess is the latter.

Anyway, the delicious plug-in could probably be modified to work the way you want. The best chance of this happening is to do it yourself (which isn’t as hard as it used to be). Failing that, you could file a feature request under “issues” for the plug-in repository.

http://github.com/tiennou/blacktree-elements/issues

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[David Rees]

I would actually like to see this as a feature also. I was surprised when I discovered that "Include in Global Catalog" is actually the same as enabling/disabling the source. I had assume it worked the same as pendolino expected.

I also have a need for it with B70 since adding all the url string to URLs has kind of "polluted" my global catalog and made it harder to find files, apps, and other things.

I created an issue and put more details at https://github.com/quicksilver/Quicksilver/issues/1066. The nice thing is it would give the user the choice for things like the iTunes example. I would definitely use it for things like bash history, which I would never want in my global catalog. 

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[philostein]

Bash history is a plain text file with a different extension. Patrick - any chance to add this extension to Text Manipulation Actions? Then 'Bash history>Show Contents' would do the trick.

[Leo]

I'm came across this post after goggling for an answer to my problem. The thing is this, i wanna QS list my contacts only after a (Compose To) action. Never in the first pane. Is it possible?

thanks

[Jon Stovell]

Nope. And you probably don't actually want that. What if you just want to write an e-mail to someone, rather than sending them an e-mail with a file attachment? You'll need to bring up the contact in the first pane and select the Compose E-mail action in the second pane. To do it your way, you could never start the process because there would be no first pane object for the action to act on.

[Rob McBroom]

On Mar 24, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Leo <barbosa....@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm came across this post after goggling for an answer to my problem. The thing is this, i wanna QS list my contacts only after a (Compose To) action. Never in the first pane. Is it possible?

As Jon said, no. The contacts in the third pane are pulled out of the catalog, so they need to be there in the first place. Wherever possible, we try to make things check the catalog first, and if nothing is found, go get the information from the source on the spot. But that really only works internally to one plug-in.

For example, if you don’t add contacts to the catalog, you can still see them by right-arrowing into Contacts.app because the stuff in the catalog and the stuff you see right-arrowing come from the same place. But the e-mail related actions are in another plug-in that doesn’t know how to load contacts on the fly.

[David Rees]

What Leo is asking for is pendoQS and my exact ask though - the ability to index things without adding them to the catalog. It's a signal to noise issue. In Leo's case it sounds like he doesn't want to clutter his global catalog/results with his contacts, but still wants quick access to them when he wants to do something with them - in the third pane. Alternatively what I am suggesting is he could also open the Contacts (Catalog), then search contacts.

In my case the main culprit is bookmarks. I don't want them in the global catalog, but I would like to be able to add a trigger for the bookmarks catalog so I can search them quick when I want them. Its the #1 thing that I still keep wanting from QS.

[Jon Stovell]

Have you tried turning off the Safari Bookmarks catalogue entry, and then just right-arrowing into Safari in the first pane? That brings up the hierarchical list of bookmarks for me.

[David Rees]

As you said, that is hierarchal - which defeats the whole value proposition of QS in my mind :). I'm also suggesting this as a general feature, I think it would be handy for other use cases. Lot's of things that could use QS's search functionality, but you don't want to clutter the main catalog with them.

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