Automotive Cape

[marc...@gmail.com]

Hello,
I am part of a startup that has developed a system that is used to analyse vehicles in they way they are driven and also track the journeys.

We are producing a cape to use for development of our next version and thinking  about offering it for sale to the open source community.  The basics of the interface are:
CAN
ODBII via SN1110 OBD to UART Interpreter
Mini-PCIe for 3G-LTE/GPS card
6 axis accel and gyro
RTC
USB expansion for WiFi dongle (possibly supporting 802.11p)
Bi directional GPIO for vehicle signals (Ignition in GPIO_0 wakeup domain)

And maybe some more.

Are there any requests/requirements that you think might be of benefit to make the cape more usable ?

Any feedback appreciated.

Kind Regards
Marc

[Eric Fort]

adding compass functionality would add very little to the cost and be
quite useful. It's the difference between usung an invensense
MPU-6050 6 axis or an MPU-9150 9 axis sensor. an altimeter would be
nice as well. I'd be interested in just how you intend to provide
mini-PCI-e on the bone but I don't see how it's needed for 3G-LTE or
GPS interfacing to the bone. most of those modules are serially
controlled and where sound comes into play the bone has i2s and audio
serial port abilities that can either drive a dac/listen to an adc or
even speak directly to some modules over asp/i2s.

Eric

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[marc...@gmail.com]

Hi Eric,
Yes adding the compass as well could easily be done as we are already using the MPU-6050 and it is a compatible replacement.

The mini-PCI-e is the socket that a 3G/LTE card can be attached to, the interface to the beagle is USB and has the SIM interface as well to make things easy
A GPS 3v3 LNA booster is also planned to allow the use of GPS antennas with LNA.

Having the mini-PCIe enables the use of any card the user chooses.  We have used SierraWireless and Huawei modules for the 3G uplink.

Marc

[Micka]

By curiousity, when are you planning to release this cap ? :p

[marc...@gmail.com]

We are in the final process of layout and looking to get the first versions manufactured in the next 4 weeks.

The initial run will be low volume as we are using it for developing our product.  If there is enough interest then we would produce in volume.

 

We have been trying to find a way to get the information out on twitter but as we are a startup we have a very small following.

 

If anyone fancies tweeting us or re-tweeting us we are @aSanCloud

 

There are going to be regular updates with the progress of the board and some pictures when we get the boards manufactured/assembled.

[marc...@gmail.com]

We have now produced some 3D plots of what it will look like if anyone is interested;
3D plots of Cape

[liyaoshi]

About the 3G/LTE/GPS , Huawei have the USB single 4in1 GSM/3G/LTE/GPS module , but the GPS module not for ready by now 

And , you can add ublox7 as option

2014-01-31 <marc...@gmail.com>:

[marc...@gmail.com]

What do people think the price point is for a cape that offers
CAN
OBDII
accelerometer+gyro
mini PCI-e (USB+SIM)
GPIO
LED's ?

Thanks
Marc

On Monday, January 27, 2014 5:37:41 PM UTC, marc...@gmail.com wrote:

[yug...@gmail.com]

I'm not sure of a pricepoint- we are working on a similar beta product used to track delivery systems and i can get an chinese made tracker with some of the capability you mention (except OBD-II info) for under $40. Their devices have an onboard SIM for SMS alerts, etc. So with that in mind if we were able to use your SanCloud device with the same capability along with OBD functionality for around $80-100 it would be great. Are you considering kits fully assembled? Sorry if thats a silly question we're new to open source hardware etc and am just wondering how the license would affect other companies from using it in their products? Cheers!

[Micka]

Any news about it ? I would like to buy one .... 

Thx,

[marc...@gmail.com]

Hi, yes we are progressing.  We have just ordered the first batch of boards and will be assembling and testing in the next 14 days.
We will be putting some more updates on our twitter feed soon... @aSanCloud.

I will contact you via your email address in the next couple of days to give a more definitive date for you.

Thanks
Marc

[stanisla...@gmail.com]

Hi,

I read quickly the topic. I'm very interested by the mini pci-e ( usb+sim ) functionality. I'm planning to do tracking in the same way you described. I selected the GTM382 (GSM/3G/GPS) from Option.

I had a question about the GPS 3v3 LNA booster, would you have a link to a documentation on how you realized it ?

Great cape,

Stan

[Micka]

Hello, what is the status?

Micka,

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[marc...@gmail.com]

Hi, sorry for not responding when I said.

The PCB's have now arrived from the manufacturer and the parts have arrived from Farnell and Mouser.
The assembly and inspection is starting this weekend.

I have to state that this is an initial low volume (10 off) production to check the viability.

We are testing the circuitry before we produce a full 3558/9 based board with all the options of the cape populated.

If there is enough interest in volume then we could produce for the community.

I am talking to the hardware engineer today so will get updates about expected assembly completion.

Sorry for the delay in updates.

Marc

[Eric Fort]

so what made it into the final production version?  got a schematic or at least a BOM to share?

Eric

[marc...@gmail.com]

All the options listed above;

 

CAN
ODBII via SN1110 OBD to UART Interpreter
Mini-PCIe for 3G-LTE/GPS card
6 axis accel and gyro
RTC
USB expansion for WiFi dongle

Bi directional GPIO for vehicle signals (Ignition in GPIO_0 wakeup domain)

We are also in the process of verifying the end panels for the aluminium assembly so it is a complete solution.

[Micka]

Any news?

Micka,

[Me]

Hi Micka

Sorry for the silence. Yes the first few boards have been populated and we found an issue with the i2c1 channel we are using. There are no pull-up resistors so we have had to mod the board. An order has been placed for new boards which will be with us soon. I can send you images so you can see what the boards looks like if you want ?

Kind Regards

Marc

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[asan...@gmail.com]

Just a quick update on the progress of the Cape.  Made a quick video to show the current status of bring-up. Demonstrating the automatic sleep and wake functionality using the vehicle ignition signal, vital really for saving power.

Have a look at the Cape Demo

More will be posted soon, now that we have got over the initial issues bring-up should be fairly quick.

Regards

Marc

On Monday, January 27, 2014 5:37:41 PM UTC, marc...@gmail.com wrote:

[asan...@gmail.com]

Another update, CAN is now working with the sleep and wake functionality.  Made another quick video to show the current status of bring-up.

Have a look Cape CAN Demo

Next is the accelerometer/gyro with a nice visual feedback.

Regards

Marc

[ghul...@me.com]

Any updates on this?

Does the board have any optoisolators on there so it can read from some 12v and 5v sensors?

Thanks,

Greg

[san cloud]

Hi, we are progressing well with the software development and have all the blocks running and are currently debugging when they are all running concurrently. At the current HW does not have support for isolated inputs but we will look at adding the option into the final version of the hardware given the flexibility they will offer.

Marc 

[Gerard Sequiera]

Awesome! Thanks.

[davron.t...@gmail.com]

This looks like exactly something that fits one of my project needs. Have you worked it out yet?

[san cloud]

Hi, Yes we have worked it out and have corrected the tracking issues that we identified in the V1.

Getting some of the V2 boards made soon.  Our hardware engineer is reviewing the schematics and PCB gerbers one last time before pressing the go button.

What are you thinking of doing with the board ?

I can send you more detailed pics so you can see if it is what you require ?

Thanks

Marc

On Sun, Aug 24, 2014 at 11:03 PM, <davron.t...@gmail.com> wrote:

This looks like exactly something that fits one of my project needs. Have you worked it out yet?

[langmaie...@gmail.com]

Hi

I saw your youtube video of the sleep/resume process controlled by ignition. Thats exactly what I need to have.

Where can I buy your cape? How much is it?

Brg

Marcel

[eric.jo...@gmail.com]

Any updates for the Cape? I'm curious in this as well. I've got all the componets in piece mail but its proving more difficult to combine the code and GUI...albeit that I'm an extreme novice and my skills in programming are of course, rudementary.

I have already soldered in an RS232 cable to the 16pin OBD connector and using an Arduino with CAN shield to set an automatic environment while the beaglebone boots. Once the BBB boot sequence is complete, the Arduino then reads inputs from the beaglebone and adjusts according to the user inputs. The GUI is of course proving to be very challenging for me in how I am looking to present the information from the vehicle CAN buses and GPRS, GPS, accelerometer and gyro. My intent is to match the factor skins and coloring as best I can.

It sounds awesome in theory and concept...getting the screen and functions to play out what my mind is seeing may be two different things

What's the status?

[san cloud]

Hi All, sorry for the silence.  We have not produced any capes yet as we have been talking to beagle bone about producing an variant of the BBB with more memory, accelerometer/gyro and altimeter on.  This will change the form factor of the current cape design.  

If there is enough interest for the current cape then we can produce in small batches but as of yet there have been 2 people and it would result in a high cost as they will be mostly hand soldered.

We could supply a kit if you are feeling brave of the PCB and components to solder ?

Marcel and Eric if you are still interested in discussing further please contact us directly.

Regards

Marc

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