OVERVIEW: A Muslim immigrant from Iraq will stand trial in Arizona
this month for using his Grand Cherokee to hit his daughter and then
run her over until her spine was crushed, all for an honor
killing...Islam-style!
Maybe he just couldn't afford her health care premiums.
She probably wouldn't sit in his lap in the bathtub.
Depends, does it not? How are you on Catholic Relief or the Salvation Army?
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gee the SA gives to the poor...the current bete noir of right wing
republicans who think they should be left to starve 'cuz they're lazy
Papa is going to discover he is not in Kansas anymore when them lead
him down the road to prison for 60 years.
If the prisoners will beat someone to death for having sex with a
minor, I can't wait to see what they do to hot-headed-papa for killing
his own daughter. It is not going to be pretty.
Murdering a child is one of the worst crimes of humanity. However,
when it is the child's very own parent that does the killing, it is
unimaginable.
Nothing justifies it. Certainly not a religion.
Looking for something to disagree with... not finding anything. What
have you done with the real [M]adape?
>On Jan 5, 3:14 pm, Sp Qr <spqr100...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> HEADLINE: Arizona Muslim immigrant stands trial for running over
>> daughter in honor killing
>>
>> OVERVIEW: A Muslim immigrant from Iraq will stand trial in Arizona
>> this month for using his Grand Cherokee to hit his daughter and then
>> run her over until her spine was crushed, all for an honor
>> killing...Islam-style!
>>
>> LINK:http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/arizona-muslim...
>
>Papa is going to discover he is not in Kansas anymore when them lead
>him down the road to prison for 60 years.
says the creationsit who thinks the wizard of oz is literally true
because it involves magic...just like creationism
>
>If the prisoners will beat someone to death for having sex with a
>minor, I can't wait to see what they do to hot-headed-papa for killing
>his own daughter. It is not going to be pretty.
>
>Murdering a child is one of the worst crimes of humanity. However,
>when it is the child's very own parent that does the killing, it is
>unimaginable.
>
>Nothing justifies it. Certainly not a religion.
and yet the devout christian, andrea yates, did exactly that.
Under what law could have he done anything?
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Just another shit talking troll.
And filtered
And if he had called the voices in his head "God", the shooting would
somehow have been different?
Oh, and these "conservatives", such as Republicans in congress, who
faithfully recite Official FNC Talking Points, such as "Job
Killing"..?
Fox Noise has probably been too noisy of late for you to notice; they
are not on board with this one.
Change.
As the Onion already noted, if Jared had been Mexican, then...
a wildlife officer stopped him too!! time to haul all park rangers in
to find out what's going on!
> a wildlife officer stopped him too!! time to haul all park rangers in
> to find out what's going on!
'Cause he's smarter than the average schizo gun nut, Boo-Boo!
Maybe it was a catch and release stretch of road.
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Oh , sure. Pull the Mexican card on me.
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:29:37 -0700, "rial landreth" <rl...@dev.null>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:40:32 -0700, bpuharic <wf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Jan 2011 13:14:29 -0800 (PST), Sp Qr <spqr1...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> HEADLINE: Arizona Muslim immigrant stands trial for running over
>>>> daughter in honor killing
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OVERVIEW: A Muslim immigrant from Iraq will stand trial in Arizona
>>>> this month for using his Grand Cherokee to hit his daughter and then
>>>> run her over until her spine was crushed, all for an honor
>>>> killing...Islam-style!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LINK:
>>>> http://www.examiner.com/american-politics-in-vancouver/arizona-muslim-immigrant-stands-trial-for-running-over-daughter-honor-killing
>>>
>>> aint religion wunnerful?
>>
>> Depends, does it not? How are you on Catholic Relief or the Salvation
>> Army?
>
> gee the SA gives to the poor...
Problem with that?
> the current bete noir of right wing
> republicans who think they should be left to starve 'cuz they're lazy
More unsupported foaming from a partisan hack. My points are sustained.
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>> Nothing justifies it. Certainly not a religion.
> and yet the devout christian, andrea yates, did exactly that.
I may be in error here, but isn't mental illness non-religion-caused in
the secular community, and demonically driven in the faith based one?
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> >As the Onion already noted, if Jared had been Mexican, then...
>
> Oh , sure. Pull the Mexican card on me.
May I see your Mexican card, sir?
How Right-Wing Candidates Have Turned Hate Into Political Currency:
"Unemployed workers are lazy welfare queens," said Sharron Angle,
running for Senate in Nevada under the Tea Party banner, in one of her
many speeches laced with vitriol and hate for families living in
poverty in the U.S. From New York to California, from Sharron Angle to
Meg Whitman, the running theme of hundreds of political campaigns
supported by the so-called Tea Party and its Republican counterparts
is hate: hate for us poor mamas, poor people of color, poor families
and immigrants.
"I will end the welfare system as we know it and I will crack down on
sanctuary cities for immigrants," said Meg Whitman, the billionaire
Republican who is running for governor of California. She and others
have built their campaigns on a perceived baseline of racist and
classist hate that exists in the U.S. for poor folks and immigrants
and people of color. Even if this perceived hate isn't actually there,
it is fueled by a constant stream of disinformation and lies that
rolls, unchecked, through corporate-owned media and out of the mouths
of corporate politicians.
"Instead of handing out welfare checks, we'll teach people how to earn
their check, we'll teach them personal hygiene," said New York's Tea
Party candidate for governor Carl Paladino, who is running on a
platform riddled with myths and lies about poor families and the
measly subsidies we get. Paladino has proposed to transform New York
prisons into dormitories for welfare recipients, to teach us "hygiene"
so we can "work" for our checks. Again, either because of his own
ignorance and arrogance and/or to cede the baseline fascism of the
U.S., he fails to mention that us poor parents who receive the tiny
amount of cash aid from the state always have to work for that subsidy
through the welfare-to-work program -- work we have done for years.
There is in fact no "free money" in the U.S. scarcity model of welfare.
>> > the current bete noir of right wing
>> > republicans who think they should be left to starve 'cuz they're lazy
>>
>> More unsupported foaming from a partisan hack. My points are sustained.
>
>How Right-Wing Candidates Have Turned Hate Into Political Currency:
>
>"Unemployed workers are lazy welfare queens," said Sharron Angle,
john shadegg, congressman from AZ said basically the same thing. seems
if you're not scamming for wall street, the right doesnt have much use
for you
>On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 04:38:56 -0700, bpuharic <wf...@comcast.net> wrote:
looks good to me.
> Latest embarrassment for Evolutionism is the supposed "missing link",
> Ardi
For over 50 years the leading model of evolution has been "punctuated
equilibrium". Healthy gene pools resist change.
When something disturbs the environment, such as an eruption, the
outliers of the gene pool with the best adaptations to the new
environment flourish.
In the Holocene, the "flightless cormorant" is an example of a missing
link. We don't need the fossils to see it. Its disturbance was a flock
getting stranded on bare islands with very little food on the land,
and lots in the surrounding seas.
It's a very rare species, with wings still shaped for flight, and not
yet fully evolved for swimming. If it evolved all the way, and became
more successful, its members would have a higher chance of leaving
fossil records.
Only one large animal in millions leaves a fossil record. So the
period of most rapid evolution - when the gene pool is stressed and
most of the old versions are dying - is also the period when the
transitioning versions leave the least fossil records.
This means the rubric "there are no missing links in the fossil
record" confirms evolution, even though it's only partly true.
> Latest embarrassment for Evolutionism is the supposed "missing link",
> Ardi
How?
--
It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in
delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan
>> > the current bete noir of right wing
>> > republicans who think they should be left to starve 'cuz they're lazy
>>
>> More unsupported foaming from a partisan hack. My points are sustained.
>
> How Right-Wing Candidates Have Turned Hate Into Political Currency:
>
How blatant plagiarism is neither rewarded nor paid any attention to.
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Not THIS again.
Did't you get enough on TO? The Yates murders were not caused by
religion.
Get back with me when atheists are not equally as prone to mental
illness, mkay?
Sheesh.. All we need is Boi Cat now, and we can have a party
>On Jan 13, 5:38 am, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:38:31 -0800 (PST), AllSeeing-I
>>
>>
>> >Nothing justifies it. Certainly not a religion.
>>
>> and yet the devout christian, andrea yates, did exactly that.
>
>Not THIS again.
>
>Did't you get enough on TO? The Yates murders were not caused by
>religion.
and the moron in AZ was not caused by atheism.
>
>Get back with me when atheists are not equally as prone to mental
>illness, mkay?
the point just went over your tin foil hat, didnt it.
i agree yates wasnt due to xtianity
nor was AZ due to atheism
>
i realize that, as a creatoinist, you're a sheep. but this is
ridiculous
FWIW --You would be surprised how much you and I agree on.
Papa has been seized by forces greater then what man can resist. These
are subtle yet powerful forces that are at the very heart of spiritual
warfare. Nothing else would, or even could, explain such parental
behavior. It is a demonic influence that causes a parent to murder
their own child.
What this man has done is another sign that we are in the "end of
days", fish.
Moreover, events just as drastic as this one are increasing at an
alarming rate.
For instance, a small town in Ohio located in the middle of nowhere
with a very small population experiences a child taking a gun and
shooting his parents. When the police questioned the boy, he had no
reason for what he had done.
Another father shoots his wife in the head while the children watch,
then shoots the kids one at a time. One kid escapes wounded, but the
father chases him down and finishes the job.
Latter at the police station the man says he has no idea what came
over him.
These stories are piling up and they tie in together with 'end-time'
events.
Scientists sometimse say "there are no missing links", meaning rapidly
evolving species appear in the fossil record less often than stable
species.
Because "missing link" had already appeared in the vocabulary, among
Edwardian attempts to link the incorrectly-named Homo Erectus to
Neanderthal Man, the creationists ran with "there are no missing
links". That confirms evolution as a proof of one of its models.
200 years ago, they said the End was just around the corner.
100 years ago, they said the End was any day now.
50 years ago, they said The Bomb would be the End.
20 years ago, they said the Millennium would be the End.
2 years ago, they said 2012 would be the End.
So I guess it's unanimous! The End is any day now!
>
>What this man has done is another sign that we are in the "end of
>days", fish.
>
>Moreover, events just as drastic as this one are increasing at an
>alarming rate.
>
>For instance, a small town in Ohio located in the middle of nowhere
>with a very small population experiences a child taking a gun and
>shooting his parents. When the police questioned the boy, he had no
>reason for what he had done.
>
>Another father shoots his wife in the head while the children watch,
>then shoots the kids one at a time. One kid escapes wounded, but the
>father chases him down and finishes the job.
>
>Latter at the police station the man says he has no idea what came
>over him.
>
>These stories are piling up and they tie in together with 'end-time'
>events.
gee this is a testable assertion. the murder rate is higher in the
christian US than it is in virtually any other industrialized
democracy.
and the murder rate has been DECLINING
but, then, creationsits dont do evidence
interferes with their lies
It was YOU, not ME that said "yet the devout christian, andrea yates,
did exactly that"
Time for your medicine bob?
It is different today. The birth pains are coming closer.
Do you not see a difference between "theist X did Y" and "Y was caused
by X's theism"?
> Time for your medicine bob?
Time for your EFL lessons, [M]adape?
You are 100% driven by beliefs (your own or those of the left) and yet you
rage against those with faith. This is because, at some subconscious
level, you know you are as much prone to faith as any religionist, and it
drives you mad with hatred.
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>On Jan 15, 9:08 pm, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:00:32 -0800 (PST), AllSeeing-I
>>
>> <allseei...@usa.com> wrote:
>> >On Jan 13, 5:38 am, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:38:31 -0800 (PST), AllSeeing-I
>>
>> >> >Nothing justifies it. Certainly not a religion.
>>
>> >> and yet the devout christian, andrea yates, did exactly that.
>>
>> >Not THIS again.
>> >Get back with me when atheists are not equally as prone to mental
>> >illness, mkay?
>>
>> the point just went over your tin foil hat, didnt it.
>>
>> i agree yates wasnt due to xtianity
>>
>> nor was AZ due to atheism
>>
>>
>>
>> i realize that, as a creatoinist, you're a sheep. but this is
>> ridiculous
>
>It was YOU, not ME that said "yet the devout christian, andrea yates,
>did exactly that"
>
>Time for your medicine bob?
let me type this slowly so you can understand
your fellow taliban christian stated the AZ shooting was the result of
atheism.
i merely made a parallel comment about yates being due to religion.
DUH!!
You aren't aware that honor killings date back to Roman times, are
you? No, of course you're not.
> Moreover, events just as drastic as this one are increasing at an
> alarming rate.
I think that you have no idea about the rate at which honor killings
happen across the world. I suspect that it is possible that honor
killings are increasing in the western world as people from the
cultural areas where honor killing is relatively common migrate. On
the other hand, perhaps it is also possible that it is the reporting
of honor killings which has been increasing. According to
<http://www.todayszaman.com/news-217795-100-honor-killings-a-
misunderstood-concept-study-finds.html>
for example, there were 460 honor killings in Turkey over the past
decade. How many of them did you hear about?
> For instance, a small town in Ohio located in the middle of nowhere
> with a very small population experiences a child taking a gun and
> shooting his parents. When the police questioned the boy, he had no
> reason for what he had done.
>
> Another father shoots his wife in the head while the children watch,
> then shoots the kids one at a time. One kid escapes wounded, but the
> father chases him down and finishes the job.
>
> Latter at the police station the man says he has no idea what came
> over him.
It is your belief that mental illness is caused by the Devil?
> These stories are piling up and they tie in together with 'end-time'
> events.
I don't much care what you think about the "end times". The end of
days has been predicted for a great multitude of dates over the last
several thousand years, and for absolutely no good reason. When you
can show me why I should believe that such a thing as the "end times"
is underway, I'll reconsider. Until then, no.
i dont rail against faith. i rail against fanatics
check your mirror. present company not excluded
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:53:23 -0800 (PST), AllSeeing-I
> <allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 15, 9:08 pm, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:00:32 -0800 (PST), AllSeeing-I
>>>
>>> <allseei...@usa.com> wrote:
>>> >On Jan 13, 5:38 am, bpuharic <w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:38:31 -0800 (PST), AllSeeing-I
>>>
>>> >> >Nothing justifies it. Certainly not a religion.
>>>
>>> >> and yet the devout christian, andrea yates, did exactly that.
>>>
>>> >Not THIS again.
>>> >Get back with me when atheists are not equally as prone to mental
>>> >illness, mkay?
>>>
>>> the point just went over your tin foil hat, didnt it.
>>>
>>> i agree yates wasnt due to xtianity
>>>
>>> nor was AZ due to atheism
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> i realize that, as a creatoinist, you're a sheep. but this is
>>> ridiculous
>>
>> It was YOU, not ME that said "yet the devout christian, andrea yates,
>> did exactly that"
>>
>> Time for your medicine bob?
>
> let me type this slowly so you can understand
>
>
> your fellow taliban christian
That is just the point at which folks tune you out.
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>On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:11:14 -0700, bpuharic <wf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 19:53:23 -0800 (PST), AllSeeing-I
>> <allse...@usa.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Jan 15, 9:08 pm
>>>> the point just went over your tin foil hat, didnt it.
>>>>
>>>> i agree yates wasnt due to xtianity
>>>>
>>>> nor was AZ due to atheism
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i realize that, as a creatoinist, you're a sheep. but this is
>>>> ridiculous
>>>
>>> It was YOU, not ME that said "yet the devout christian, andrea yates,
>>> did exactly that"
>>>
>>> Time for your medicine bob?
>>
>> let me type this slowly so you can understand
>>
>>
>> your fellow taliban christian
>
>That is just the point at which folks tune you out.
>
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yeah i know. the truth hurts
No, you have problems with faith.
>
> check your mirror. present company not excluded
Break yours, or otherwise prevent it from showing you what you are.
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From you it is never present.
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If you "don't much care what" I think then why would you reconsider?
You won't.
However, I cannot say I blame you for feeling the way you do about the
end times. There has been a lot of crying wolf over the past 2000
years.
Nevertheless, It is not "honor killings" or any one particular set of
circumstances alone that I base my judgment on. It is a cumulation of
many events and items all converging at the same time. That is why we
may be living in the end of days.
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> - Show quoted text -
> Nevertheless, It is not "honor killings" or any one particular set of
> circumstances alone that I base my judgment on. It is a cumulation of
> many events and items all converging at the same time. That is why we
> may be living in the end of days.
Oh, hey, after you!
In that same paragraph, I gave you the conditions under which I would
reconsider. You really need to develop an ability to read for
comprehension, [M]adape. Off to EFL classes with you!
> However, I cannot say I blame you for feeling the way you do about the
> end times. There has been a lot of crying wolf over the past 2000
> years.
It's still going on today.
> Nevertheless, It is not "honor killings" or any one particular set of
> circumstances alone that I base my judgment on. It is a cumulation of
> many events and items all converging at the same time. That is why we
> may be living in the end of days.
Nice shift from "are living in the end times" to "may be". Nice.
given that the NRA has opposed restricting gun sales to the mentally
insane, what makes you think any elected official is going to
challenge them?
and the biggest supporter of the NRA?
conservative christians. 85% of NRA money goes to the GOP
>
>Nevertheless, It is not "honor killings" or any one particular set of
>circumstances alone that I base my judgment on. It is a cumulation of
>many events and items all converging at the same time. That is why we
>may be living in the end of days.
>
>
which is why people cried wolf for 2000 years. they've always said the
accumulation of many events indicated this
-the split of the christian church was traumatic...moreso than
anything going on today
-the black death that wiped out 1/3 of europe. if that wasnt an
indicator of the 'end times'...
etc etc etc
Actually, the disturbance was more subtle. A normal cormorant is a
flighted, aquatic bird. A flock got stranded on islands without
predators, relieving evolutionary pressure to keep the wings
flightworthy. Cormorants with wings better adapted to swimming than
flying became reproductively successful.
Evolution does not automatically mean progress from less to more
complex forms. One of the the mighty velociraptor's descendants is the
lowly kiwi...
> -the black death that wiped out 1/3 of europe. if that wasnt an
> indicator of the 'end times'...
>
> etc etc etc
Dozens of entire flocks of birds all died recently. Does that count?
T. Rex's closest living relative is the chicken.
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information networks are helping people discover new facts and making
governments more accountable.- US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,
January 21, 2010
And the crocodile, but that's less dramatic.
Dude, get a grip. We are living in the last days. There was no
"shift", except for in your black&white imagination
The "Last Days" are a fantasy gimmick of religious leaders looking for
another way to make money. The "Left Behind" stories are just evidence
that there is a group of believers who have no ability to recognize
horrible writing when they are reading it.
> The "Last Days" are a fantasy gimmick of religious leaders looking for
> another way to make money. The "Left Behind" stories are just evidence
> that there is a group of believers who have no ability to recognize
> horrible writing when they are reading it.
They are also a way for religious leaders to profit from fears of
nuclear war, without mentioning it by name.
"Left Behind" (despite referring back to 1800s and 1950s
dispensationalist theory) owes a lot of inspiration to the Neutron
Bomb; killing people with high-energy radiation without smoking too
many buildings.
>
>Dude, get a grip. We are living in the last days.
so you guys ahve been saying. for 2000 years
just like the creationist phillip johnson saying, in 96, that the end
of evolution would come in his lifetime as scientists came to
intelligent design
he recently admitted virtually no scientists have come to ID.
you guys are always playing the big man.
I agree with you 100%. Except for the part about living in the last
days. ...and the part about you not shifting your language. Oh, and
the part about my imagination being black and white. Those you're
totally wrong about.
logic is not authority based. you christain fanatics have personality
cults
> The world's leading atheist Dr.Anthony Flew admitted that atheism was a
> mistaken philosophy and came to Intelligent Design. What about you?
There's no such thing as "the world's leading atheist", and Flew became a
deist in his declining years, not long before his death.
Deism is just the "billiard ball break" approach to how the universe
started. "Intelligent design" is just a bunch of fundamentalist
religious codswallop.
>On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:13:23 -0800, Loirbaj wrote:
>
>> The world's leading atheist Dr.Anthony Flew admitted that atheism was a
>> mistaken philosophy and came to Intelligent Design. What about you?
>
>There's no such thing as "the world's leading atheist", and Flew became a
>deist in his declining years, not long before his death.
>
>Deism is just the "billiard ball break" approach to how the universe
>started. "Intelligent design" is just a bunch of fundamentalist
>religious codswallop.
Gotta wonder what Jamieson's stepmon thinks of all that....
"my mum-in-law is a Baptist, but a very mellow one."
--Greywolf Jamieson, AKA PJWolf, AKA the former Mrs Bryan Jamieson
Sep 11 1996
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.religion.wicca/msg/380435b09d17fce4?
Anything else?
Because the last days are here. They began in 1948
"Phlip" <phli...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4c491505-9915-4174...@g26g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
Absolutely, and all those that believe these are the last days should just
go ahead and off themselves. After all, you want to avoid the rush and beat
the lines for St. Peter.
<snip>
> > > Dude, get a grip. We are living in the last days. There was no
> > > "shift", except for in your black&white imagination
>
> > I agree with you 100%. Except for the part about living in the last
> > days. ...and the part about you not shifting your language. Oh, and
> > the part about my imagination being black and white. Those you're
> > totally wrong about.
>
> Anything else?
>
> Because the last days are here. They began in 1948
Nope. Nothing else.
> Because the last days are here. They began in 1948
Claiming end times are nigh makes you feel important, right?
IT'S THE JOOOOOOOZ! RUN AWAY!!!!
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If all you are doing is accusing your opponenets of all sorts of infamy.
If all you are doing is dehumanizing conservatives, TEA Party members,
Republicans
You are not part of the solution,
You are not part of the problem.
You ARE the problem.
> On Jan 16, 6:53�pm, AllSeeing-I <allseei...@usa.com> wrote:
>
>> Because the last days are here. They began in 1948
>
> Claiming end times are nigh makes you feel important, right?
>
If you had a functioning brain cell... Oh never mind.
"You really ARE the Messiah! I should know - I HAVE followed a few!" --
Monty Python
Maybe they were committing suicide to protest the remake of
Hitchcock's movie "The Birds".
> >> Because the last days are here. They began in 1948
>
> > Claiming end times are nigh makes you feel important, right?
>
> If you had a functioning brain cell... Oh never mind.
You're on board, too, GG?
> If you had a functioning brain cell... Oh never mind.
Here's a drawing of you trying to get into Heaven, GG!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_uDTS_TA8ICI/RcjjoYalGuI/AAAAAAAAADE/YEEPw31Ys-w/s400/kkk.jpg
http://masbury.wordpress.com/2008/05/27/ku-klux-klan-wont-endorse-obama/
> just like the creationist phillip johnson saying, in 96, that the end
> of evolution would come in his lifetime as scientists came to
> intelligent design
> he recently admitted virtually no scientists have come to ID.
His admission then was a lie.
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> RUSH site has breaking news on CRAZED atheist murderer
Anyone who would rush to Rush, deserves to be deceived, and will be.
he's the father of ID
he's the father of lies
yes, i know
Your word on what anyone says will never be trusted in these forums, plonk.
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