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Robert Settle
Dec 2, 2016, 12:01:31 PM12/2/16
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Re: the Yacht Specialties steering pedestal -apparently there were
slight mods during their production runs for this pedestal with
materials used in manufacture.
The shaft bearings in mine are some kind of linen/fiber plastic
matrix. Not bakelite but similar in that it's a red material. No
roller pin bearings as some report as having. Mine had "never" been
serviced and the whole system works very well after cleaning and
greasing these. They will obviously need shorter lube intervals than
the ones with roller bearings.
The aluminum housing ring under the compass is held by four 4" long
stainless machine screws. All the screws had welded themselves with
dissimilar metal corrosion to the aluminum housing. All the heads
broke off. My welder used a TIG torch to artfully weld nuts to the
remaining stubs and all eventually came out with no damage to the
housing with careful coaxing. Saved me a ton of bucks as there would
be no other option than to buy new. After Awlgripping everything I
think I'll get another decade or more out of it.
On 12/2/16, Passpor...@googlegroups.com
<Passpor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> - Yacht Specialties / Merriman steering wheel brake [2 Updates]
> http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/332e78e7edc1910b
> - Bronze Port Lights [1 Update]
> http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/8a110f97ac2d90f7
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> Topic: Yacht Specialties / Merriman steering wheel brake
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/332e78e7edc1910b
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> ---------- 1 of 2 ----------
> From: Ernie Reuter <ern...@gmail.com>
> Date: Dec 01 01:04PM -0500
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/bf9e115a94049
>
> I would second that Phil....
> Ernie
>
>
>
> ---------- 2 of 2 ----------
> From: "Don Fife" <state...@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Dec 01 08:50PM -0800
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/c1d240c1bca65
>
> Under the compass is a round two inch wide piece held down by four screws.
> It has two tits that the shift and fuel levers attach to via bolts. The
> shift lever tit broke while I was single handing to La Paz in 2008. I used a
> temporary fix using a small vise grip to pull up or push down the cable.
> Once in La Paz I found a welder to weld the part back together. I thought it
> was aluminum and he thought it was aluminum. No problem, come back in the
> morning and pick it up. I returned and he said he was sorry but he could not
> weld the part. I was in shock, how was I to get this out of date part. He
> then handed me the part and said it is plastic! He fixed it with some kind
> of glue and it is still working flawlessly. Moral of the story, do not force
> or hammer on this part. TLC is needed to remove the screws. Michael is
> right, leave the hammer in the tool kit.
> Don
> SV Bugler
>
> From: passpor...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:passpor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Moradzadeh
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:56 PM
> To: psherwood <p...@witanco.com>
> Cc: Francisco Garuti <fga...@gmail.com>; Passport Owners
> <Passpor...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Passport] Re: Yacht Specialties / Merriman steering wheel
> brake
>
> I have found it necessary, in some cases, to use an impact driver to do that
> initial disassembly of the top parts of the binnacle. An electric or air
> one, rather than something you smack with a hammer, is a good choice.
>
> And yes, on reassembly, Tef-Gel.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 5:21 PM, psherwood <p...@witanco.com
> <mailto:p...@witanco.com> > wrote:
> Not complicated at all, as I recall. Once you take the compass off the very
> top, it'll be obvious what machine screws have to come out. Have some good
> penetrating oil handy, for soaking the SS machine screws in their aluminum
> housing. When reassembling, use Tef-Gel or Lanokote on the threads.
>
> If your compass has a little red night light, as mine does, be careful to
> remove it and disconnect the two slender wires before lifting the compass up
> more than a few inches.
>
> I don't recall having to totally disassemble everything to get at the brake.
> You might need to disconnect the throttle cable and carefully move it out of
> your way, but if you're reasonably careful that's pretty straightforwardly
> done without complicating the reassembly process.
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Wed 11/30/16 15:28, Francisco Garuti wrote:
> How complicated is it to open up the YS pedestal? I was looking for ways
> to open it up and came to the conclusion that the only way was getting
> out of where it is right now. I might be wrong, but it requires
> dissasembling the whole of the steering cables right? Or is there a way
> to get to the brake without tearing the whole thing apart?
>
> Thanks!
>
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> Topic: Bronze Port Lights
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> ---------- 1 of 1 ----------
> From: Rob Raymond <wind...@gmail.com>
> Date: Dec 01 10:38AM -0800
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/bfbbb62095b7b
>
> Any glass shop *should* be able to make them. We are fortunate to have an
> excellent local one that we've used for years. After removing the glass I
> took the best two to the shop and they color match and cut them for less
> than $200 CAD.
>
> BTW, since we were replacing the glass I didn't worry too much damaging the
> lenses, which are easily cracked with heat. To remove the glass retaining
> rings I heated the rings with a propane torch until the caulking just
> started to smoke and they just lifted off. Any force at all will bend them.
>
> Finished product anxiously awaiting their return to the boat
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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slight mods during their production runs for this pedestal with
materials used in manufacture.
The shaft bearings in mine are some kind of linen/fiber plastic
matrix. Not bakelite but similar in that it's a red material. No
roller pin bearings as some report as having. Mine had "never" been
serviced and the whole system works very well after cleaning and
greasing these. They will obviously need shorter lube intervals than
the ones with roller bearings.
The aluminum housing ring under the compass is held by four 4" long
stainless machine screws. All the screws had welded themselves with
dissimilar metal corrosion to the aluminum housing. All the heads
broke off. My welder used a TIG torch to artfully weld nuts to the
remaining stubs and all eventually came out with no damage to the
housing with careful coaxing. Saved me a ton of bucks as there would
be no other option than to buy new. After Awlgripping everything I
think I'll get another decade or more out of it.
On 12/2/16, Passpor...@googlegroups.com
<Passpor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> =============================================================================
> Today's topic summary
> =============================================================================
>
> Group: Passpor...@googlegroups.com
> Url:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/PassportOwners/topics
>
>
> - Yacht Specialties / Merriman steering wheel brake [2 Updates]
> http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/332e78e7edc1910b
> - Bronze Port Lights [1 Update]
> http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/8a110f97ac2d90f7
>
>
> =============================================================================
> Topic: Yacht Specialties / Merriman steering wheel brake
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/t/332e78e7edc1910b
> =============================================================================
>
> ---------- 1 of 2 ----------
> From: Ernie Reuter <ern...@gmail.com>
> Date: Dec 01 01:04PM -0500
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/bf9e115a94049
>
> I would second that Phil....
> Ernie
>
>
>
> ---------- 2 of 2 ----------
> From: "Don Fife" <state...@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Dec 01 08:50PM -0800
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/c1d240c1bca65
>
> Under the compass is a round two inch wide piece held down by four screws.
> It has two tits that the shift and fuel levers attach to via bolts. The
> shift lever tit broke while I was single handing to La Paz in 2008. I used a
> temporary fix using a small vise grip to pull up or push down the cable.
> Once in La Paz I found a welder to weld the part back together. I thought it
> was aluminum and he thought it was aluminum. No problem, come back in the
> morning and pick it up. I returned and he said he was sorry but he could not
> weld the part. I was in shock, how was I to get this out of date part. He
> then handed me the part and said it is plastic! He fixed it with some kind
> of glue and it is still working flawlessly. Moral of the story, do not force
> or hammer on this part. TLC is needed to remove the screws. Michael is
> right, leave the hammer in the tool kit.
> Don
> SV Bugler
>
> From: passpor...@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:passpor...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Moradzadeh
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 7:56 PM
> To: psherwood <p...@witanco.com>
> Cc: Francisco Garuti <fga...@gmail.com>; Passport Owners
> <Passpor...@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [Passport] Re: Yacht Specialties / Merriman steering wheel
> brake
>
> I have found it necessary, in some cases, to use an impact driver to do that
> initial disassembly of the top parts of the binnacle. An electric or air
> one, rather than something you smack with a hammer, is a good choice.
>
> And yes, on reassembly, Tef-Gel.
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 5:21 PM, psherwood <p...@witanco.com
> <mailto:p...@witanco.com> > wrote:
> Not complicated at all, as I recall. Once you take the compass off the very
> top, it'll be obvious what machine screws have to come out. Have some good
> penetrating oil handy, for soaking the SS machine screws in their aluminum
> housing. When reassembling, use Tef-Gel or Lanokote on the threads.
>
> If your compass has a little red night light, as mine does, be careful to
> remove it and disconnect the two slender wires before lifting the compass up
> more than a few inches.
>
> I don't recall having to totally disassemble everything to get at the brake.
> You might need to disconnect the throttle cable and carefully move it out of
> your way, but if you're reasonably careful that's pretty straightforwardly
> done without complicating the reassembly process.
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Wed 11/30/16 15:28, Francisco Garuti wrote:
> How complicated is it to open up the YS pedestal? I was looking for ways
> to open it up and came to the conclusion that the only way was getting
> out of where it is right now. I might be wrong, but it requires
> dissasembling the whole of the steering cables right? Or is there a way
> to get to the brake without tearing the whole thing apart?
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
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> Topic: Bronze Port Lights
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> ---------- 1 of 1 ----------
> From: Rob Raymond <wind...@gmail.com>
> Date: Dec 01 10:38AM -0800
> Url: http://groups.google.com/group/PassportOwners/msg/bfbbb62095b7b
>
> Any glass shop *should* be able to make them. We are fortunate to have an
> excellent local one that we've used for years. After removing the glass I
> took the best two to the shop and they color match and cut them for less
> than $200 CAD.
>
> BTW, since we were replacing the glass I didn't worry too much damaging the
> lenses, which are easily cracked with heat. To remove the glass retaining
> rings I heated the rings with a propane torch until the caulking just
> started to smoke and they just lifted off. Any force at all will bend them.
>
> Finished product anxiously awaiting their return to the boat
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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