2600au vs ausphreak
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Dec 10, 2015, 6:19:04 AM12/10/15
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So i've talked to people on both sides and I can't get a straight answer about why the ausphreak people and 2600 australia are so at odds.
The ausphreak's side of it seems to have begun because they think 2600au are commercial and money driven like a company instead of just meetings of hacking related hobbyists.
The ausphreak's side of it seems to have begun because they think 2600au are commercial and money driven like a company instead of just meetings of hacking related hobbyists.
Anybody want to chime in on this?
Sid Evanstock
Dec 10, 2015, 6:20:12 AM12/10/15
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Matthew George
Dec 10, 2015, 6:25:30 AM12/10/15
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There's an ausphreak 2600 war? lmfao
Luc Richards
Dec 10, 2015, 4:59:13 PM12/10/15
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Yep … everybody’s shuffling.
Damien Gardner
Dec 10, 2015, 9:46:50 PM12/10/15
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Ausphreak are still around? I thought it was just a dormant web forum that sends me spam every now and then? (Although that's still more organisation than I see from 2600, lol) I guess everyone's kinda busy with families these days :)
Tom Mitchell
Dec 10, 2015, 11:09:07 PM12/10/15
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I never said there was a war, just disagreement between them.
it's www.ausphreak.com.au now.
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Fionnbharr
Dec 13, 2015, 4:44:25 AM12/13/15
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Are we accidentally getting emails from 2003?
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Dec 27, 2015, 9:21:17 PM12/27/15
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I'll chuck a rant in the pot on this topic -
2600 AU is an older organisation, and is often confused with
our overseas counterparts. 2600 USA (ironically enough a
/newer/ organisation than 2600au) is financially driven, in
the context that they are activists who work alongside EFA
and Anonymous; etc and their website requires support, so
they created a 2600 store to fund their activities. Other
than a friendly nod however, we have no formal association
with them, other than acknowledging each others existence.
There has been collaborative projects in the past, but AFAIK
this is no longer the case.
2600 Australia on the other hand; although essentially
non-financially motivated; is essentially just a social
network of like minded privacy and NBN/broadband/cloud
advocating individuals, and bored media contacts. We do
nothing except HAVE meetings or discussions by hobbyists of
technology related topics. The only commercial interests
are conferences or organisations that 2600 members have
since become involved in, and other than permitting their
promotion or discussion over 2600 assets and channels there
is no financial motivation. (who would we even pay it to?
we are like a peer to peer network)
To anyone not familiar with our organisational structure (or
lack thereof) they can confuse the two.
2600 USA also had to learn to play the game "legally" like
EFA, as such they maintain legal representation - as 2600
being based in the USA, the land of the litigation; the feds
cry wolf about them all the time; usually the accusations
are unfounded, but that never stopped the US authorities
before.. they love their "making examples of.." Lawyers are
not cheap.
In any event due to the authoritarian and totalitarian
aspirations of our governments toxic science and tech
policies, most proactive 2600AU people went dark or found
other responsibilities, or simply left the country for work
elsewhere. At the moment there is no future in science or
tech in Australia, as it is so woefully supported, and so
heavily monitored by clandestine operations that anyone with
anything big to bring to the table, takes it elsewhere.
Which is ironic, as even in this toxic environment Australia
is still responsible for many great discoveries. Imagine
what an industry that was actually supported by government
could do.
Or in short.. there is no conflict with Ausphreak I am
aware of at our end. It must simply be confusion at theirs.
You have to remember the old guard is somewhat standoffish
to the new generation at least publicly.
It is easy for misunderstandings to form.
To be honest I have 2600 material going back almost 20
years, and other than a link to a post about the Microsoft
and Bigpond email merger on the ausphreak web forum in 2013,
a discussion about the grey pages in 2010/11, a mention on
a thread about buffer overflows in 2004, some concern about
incorrect attribution to 2600 in infosurge in 2002, and a
2001 linesman phone discussion; they rarely come up in
conversation. The above 4, out of hundreds of thousands of
posts is hardly grounds for any sort of friction. I expect
they linked to 2600 material as much of not more so in their
day too.
About the only negative association I can find related to
some Anonymous trolling traced back to Marlinspike, and that
had nothing to do with ausphreak?
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New and improved 2600... well..
..we drew on some flames and
polished it a bit..
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Turnbull: Actually 10MBs is enough for the average household really.
Abbott/Turnbull: It is cheaper to put in FTTN, you get up to 24mbs/down and 256k up..
we can upgrade it more later...
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enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
2600 AU is an older organisation, and is often confused with
our overseas counterparts. 2600 USA (ironically enough a
/newer/ organisation than 2600au) is financially driven, in
the context that they are activists who work alongside EFA
and Anonymous; etc and their website requires support, so
they created a 2600 store to fund their activities. Other
than a friendly nod however, we have no formal association
with them, other than acknowledging each others existence.
There has been collaborative projects in the past, but AFAIK
this is no longer the case.
2600 Australia on the other hand; although essentially
non-financially motivated; is essentially just a social
network of like minded privacy and NBN/broadband/cloud
advocating individuals, and bored media contacts. We do
nothing except HAVE meetings or discussions by hobbyists of
technology related topics. The only commercial interests
are conferences or organisations that 2600 members have
since become involved in, and other than permitting their
promotion or discussion over 2600 assets and channels there
is no financial motivation. (who would we even pay it to?
we are like a peer to peer network)
To anyone not familiar with our organisational structure (or
lack thereof) they can confuse the two.
2600 USA also had to learn to play the game "legally" like
EFA, as such they maintain legal representation - as 2600
being based in the USA, the land of the litigation; the feds
cry wolf about them all the time; usually the accusations
are unfounded, but that never stopped the US authorities
before.. they love their "making examples of.." Lawyers are
not cheap.
In any event due to the authoritarian and totalitarian
aspirations of our governments toxic science and tech
policies, most proactive 2600AU people went dark or found
other responsibilities, or simply left the country for work
elsewhere. At the moment there is no future in science or
tech in Australia, as it is so woefully supported, and so
heavily monitored by clandestine operations that anyone with
anything big to bring to the table, takes it elsewhere.
Which is ironic, as even in this toxic environment Australia
is still responsible for many great discoveries. Imagine
what an industry that was actually supported by government
could do.
Or in short.. there is no conflict with Ausphreak I am
aware of at our end. It must simply be confusion at theirs.
You have to remember the old guard is somewhat standoffish
to the new generation at least publicly.
It is easy for misunderstandings to form.
To be honest I have 2600 material going back almost 20
years, and other than a link to a post about the Microsoft
and Bigpond email merger on the ausphreak web forum in 2013,
a discussion about the grey pages in 2010/11, a mention on
a thread about buffer overflows in 2004, some concern about
incorrect attribution to 2600 in infosurge in 2002, and a
2001 linesman phone discussion; they rarely come up in
conversation. The above 4, out of hundreds of thousands of
posts is hardly grounds for any sort of friction. I expect
they linked to 2600 material as much of not more so in their
day too.
About the only negative association I can find related to
some Anonymous trolling traced back to Marlinspike, and that
had nothing to do with ausphreak?
New and improved 2600... well..
..we drew on some flames and
polished it a bit..
--
Google - making sure, life is no more, than 1984...
--
Bill Gates: 640k is more than enough for anybody
PC guy down the road: You will never fill that 10mb Hard disk mate
Abbott/Turnbull: 25Mbps is "more than enough" for the average Australian household.
Turnbull: Actually 10MBs is enough for the average household really.
Abbott/Turnbull: It is cheaper to put in FTTN, you get up to 24mbs/down and 256k up..
we can upgrade it more later...
--
Joseph Goebbels: If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come
to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people
from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal
enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.
Tom Mitchell
Dec 27, 2015, 10:57:03 PM12/27/15
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Older that 2600 usa, really? I seriously doubt 2600au goes back to 1983, and would like to see proof.
ad...@reviews.wox.org
Dec 28, 2015, 1:18:27 AM12/28/15
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If anyone can recall more detail feel free to pipe up and
correct me. I am by no stretch infallible and I may be
mixing up/missing details.
It's complicated, and mostly nit picking.
To be fair, the first really large scale 2600 movement was
in the USA, although the meets in Melbourne were inspired by
the US 2600 long before the official "2600" group organised
in 1984. Speculatively possibly as Australia was probably
one of the destinations being called on a trunk line.
Although individuals making use of 2600 tones may have been
present as far back as the 1960's in the USA, the first
semi-social gatherings were arranged eventually through the
various phone conference/ party lines. In the 1970's -our
early pioneers met informally at the Melbourne GPO; It was
mainly phone phreaking, mainframes and electronics at the
time, as PCs were beyond most peoples means; except the kit
forms, although topics such as tape, punch card or drum
based corporate computers would have been discussed openly.
Famously - Some Melbourne individuals were of the blind
variety.. They interacted with their (blind?) US
counterparts too i believe, via party lines, (new york?
manhattan? not sure here)
2600 was also a movement in the USA, ("2600Hz" started
there) but no formal "group" per se formed until the 80's,
as the rise of university mainframes gave them a big
advantage as a central point to coordinate meets and zines,
and distribute information/BBSs things like the anarchists
cookbook, and hackers handbook. (xon-Xoff overflow, remote
execute blah). The US version was better organised and
grew more rapidly, particularly after the release of the
movie "wargames" in 1983 created interest - which although a
work of fiction did capture some of the feel of the early
scene. (Although realistically, back then their security,
was nowhere near as good as the movie portrayed - often
having little more than an unlisted number to a secret BBS
which could be located by wardialling, or social engineering)
While the AU version had long been established at this
point, it was usually pretty small and involved little more
than a handful of friends meeting up at the GPO to hang out
and trade information, modem numbers, passwords and tips.
Those early groups probably barely even identified
themselves as a "Group" as such - individually they were all
often lone wolf personalities.
Later they evolved to use BBS and Gopher systems, before
falling into disuse in the 90s, as they moved off to
cellphone and computer user groups like the Sydney and
Melbourne PC users groups (of Mendax infamy) rose to replace
them. Between 1990 and 1994 most of the big busts were made
to make examples of people, Mitnik(Kevin), Mendax(Assange),
Phoenix(Nahshon), and various unpublicised or forgotten
busts in Perth, Sydney and Melbourne between 1995 and 1999 -
this drove the remainder underground, and caused the rise of
"script kiddies" and angry users demanding the release of
these people. With the rise of WWW in general there was a
"31337" revival around 1996/7 in IRC; shortly after
"hackers" and "the net" popularised it; which again become
highly active around 1999-2008 particularly with direction
from Dogcow (Grant) as a media spokeperson. (Popularising
the affectionate term "Media Whore") Generally it eventually
lost momentum as factions and splits formed,
2600(Austnet)/2600(Wiretapped)/2600(undernet)/2600(efnet)
most people "getting real jobs" thus eventually
(de?)evolving to the relatively quiet 2600 AU of today.
The big names may still watch the "scene" but they are
mainly lurking or running dark now. They may even still
socialise with each other. There was a lot of big projects,
like the IPv6 networks, various VPNs, and secure mail and
cryptography projects. Who knows what they still use.
Now I probably screwed a lot of this up - if anyone has a
better detail feel free to rewrite and repost.
:o)
On 28/12/2015 2:57 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:
>
> Older that 2600 usa, really? I seriously doubt 2600au goes
> back to 1983, and would like to see proof.
>
>
Yes This Signiture changes at random..
you vote for a stronger germany, for stong industry and jobs for all.. we can worry about the finer details later..
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Abbott: Being an Aboriginal is a "Lifestyle choice"
Abbott: Having optic fiber (FTTP) is a "Lifestyle choice"
Abbott/Cabinet: People and Businesses that require broadband should move to the city.
correct me. I am by no stretch infallible and I may be
mixing up/missing details.
It's complicated, and mostly nit picking.
To be fair, the first really large scale 2600 movement was
in the USA, although the meets in Melbourne were inspired by
the US 2600 long before the official "2600" group organised
in 1984. Speculatively possibly as Australia was probably
one of the destinations being called on a trunk line.
Although individuals making use of 2600 tones may have been
present as far back as the 1960's in the USA, the first
semi-social gatherings were arranged eventually through the
various phone conference/ party lines. In the 1970's -our
early pioneers met informally at the Melbourne GPO; It was
mainly phone phreaking, mainframes and electronics at the
time, as PCs were beyond most peoples means; except the kit
forms, although topics such as tape, punch card or drum
based corporate computers would have been discussed openly.
Famously - Some Melbourne individuals were of the blind
variety.. They interacted with their (blind?) US
counterparts too i believe, via party lines, (new york?
manhattan? not sure here)
2600 was also a movement in the USA, ("2600Hz" started
there) but no formal "group" per se formed until the 80's,
as the rise of university mainframes gave them a big
advantage as a central point to coordinate meets and zines,
and distribute information/BBSs things like the anarchists
cookbook, and hackers handbook. (xon-Xoff overflow, remote
execute blah). The US version was better organised and
grew more rapidly, particularly after the release of the
movie "wargames" in 1983 created interest - which although a
work of fiction did capture some of the feel of the early
scene. (Although realistically, back then their security,
was nowhere near as good as the movie portrayed - often
having little more than an unlisted number to a secret BBS
which could be located by wardialling, or social engineering)
While the AU version had long been established at this
point, it was usually pretty small and involved little more
than a handful of friends meeting up at the GPO to hang out
and trade information, modem numbers, passwords and tips.
Those early groups probably barely even identified
themselves as a "Group" as such - individually they were all
often lone wolf personalities.
Later they evolved to use BBS and Gopher systems, before
falling into disuse in the 90s, as they moved off to
cellphone and computer user groups like the Sydney and
Melbourne PC users groups (of Mendax infamy) rose to replace
them. Between 1990 and 1994 most of the big busts were made
to make examples of people, Mitnik(Kevin), Mendax(Assange),
Phoenix(Nahshon), and various unpublicised or forgotten
busts in Perth, Sydney and Melbourne between 1995 and 1999 -
this drove the remainder underground, and caused the rise of
"script kiddies" and angry users demanding the release of
these people. With the rise of WWW in general there was a
"31337" revival around 1996/7 in IRC; shortly after
"hackers" and "the net" popularised it; which again become
highly active around 1999-2008 particularly with direction
from Dogcow (Grant) as a media spokeperson. (Popularising
the affectionate term "Media Whore") Generally it eventually
lost momentum as factions and splits formed,
2600(Austnet)/2600(Wiretapped)/2600(undernet)/2600(efnet)
most people "getting real jobs" thus eventually
(de?)evolving to the relatively quiet 2600 AU of today.
The big names may still watch the "scene" but they are
mainly lurking or running dark now. They may even still
socialise with each other. There was a lot of big projects,
like the IPv6 networks, various VPNs, and secure mail and
cryptography projects. Who knows what they still use.
Now I probably screwed a lot of this up - if anyone has a
better detail feel free to rewrite and repost.
:o)
On 28/12/2015 2:57 PM, Tom Mitchell wrote:
>
> Older that 2600 usa, really? I seriously doubt 2600au goes
> back to 1983, and would like to see proof.
>
>
--
New and improved 2600... well..
..we drew on some flames and
polished it a bit..
--
Google - making sure, life is no more, than 1984...
--
Bill Gates: 640k is more than enough for anybody
PC guy down the road: You will never fill that 10mb Hard disk mate
Abbott/Turnbull: 25Mbps is "more than enough" for the average Australian household.
Turnbull: Actually 10MBs is enough for the average household really.
Abbott/Turnbull: It is cheaper to put in FTTN, you get up to 24mbs/down and 256k up..
we can upgrade it more later...
--
Adolf Hitler: And so by voting to appoint me high chancelor and to dissolve parliment
New and improved 2600... well..
..we drew on some flames and
polished it a bit..
--
Google - making sure, life is no more, than 1984...
--
Bill Gates: 640k is more than enough for anybody
PC guy down the road: You will never fill that 10mb Hard disk mate
Abbott/Turnbull: 25Mbps is "more than enough" for the average Australian household.
Turnbull: Actually 10MBs is enough for the average household really.
Abbott/Turnbull: It is cheaper to put in FTTN, you get up to 24mbs/down and 256k up..
we can upgrade it more later...
--
you vote for a stronger germany, for stong industry and jobs for all.. we can worry about the finer details later..
--
Abbott: Being an Aboriginal is a "Lifestyle choice"
Abbott: Having optic fiber (FTTP) is a "Lifestyle choice"
Abbott/Cabinet: People and Businesses that require broadband should move to the city.
conscript
Dec 30, 2015, 11:30:07 PM12/30/15
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Ummm that makes no sense, why call it 2600 when you have use 2280hz down under?
There were meetings in the USA back in the early 70's organized by TAP magazine, as well as a convention.
0f263d8ab7154c1c...@alfie.wtf
Dec 31, 2015, 10:05:29 PM12/31/15
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On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 05:30:29PM +1100, ad...@reviews.wox.org wrote:
> Generally it eventually lost momentum as factions and splits
> formed, 2600(Austnet)/2600(Wiretapped)/2600(undernet)/2600(efnet) most
> people "getting real jobs" thus eventually (de?)evolving to the relatively
> quiet 2600 AU of today.
Not sure why I think this, but for some reason was under the impression that
> Generally it eventually lost momentum as factions and splits
> formed, 2600(Austnet)/2600(Wiretapped)/2600(undernet)/2600(efnet) most
> people "getting real jobs" thus eventually (de?)evolving to the relatively
> quiet 2600 AU of today.
2600 (Melbourne at least) kind of turned into Ruxmon/Ruxcon?
When was the last 2600 meeting held in Melbourne, and what was the turnout?
Alfie
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Mike
Jan 1, 2016, 2:16:24 PM1/1/16
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I was a part of the Sydney scene from about 2002 up until Ruxcon moved down to Melbourne and I don't remember anyone talking about Ausphreak.
The last phreaking thing I remember working in Australia was when you could jam a straw down the back of the coin return shute while dropping a coin in causing it to give you a credit and return the coin.
I can probably fill in some gaps in the Sydney history from 2002 to 2012 if anyone has questions.
Patrick Webster
Jan 3, 2016, 7:03:43 PM1/3/16
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Not from Melbourne but I think about a dozen people attend each month, including last month, with regular side events.
ᐧ
ᐧSid Evanstock
Jan 4, 2016, 12:48:37 AM1/4/16
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Yer, Melbourne has 2600 meets but they are more SJW / Politics driven these days. I know of someone who went there looking for assistance with wifi stuff and no one at the meet even suggested WPS attacks.
If you're a feminist, greens loving "security expert" then go along and enjoy the circle jerk
On 4 Jan 2016 11:03 am, "Patrick Webster" <pat...@aushack.com> wrote:
Not from Melbourne but I think about a dozen people attend each month, including last month, with regular side events.ᐧ
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Daniel Tosello
Jan 5, 2016, 12:01:00 AM1/5/16
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I have a great idea.
How about people come along and report back on how true this is?
--Daniel
How about people come along and report back on how true this is?
--Daniel
Sid Evanstock
Jan 5, 2016, 5:17:47 AM1/5/16
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So the 15+ years I had been going to the Melbourne meets for doesn't hold any validity?
The countless after parties that ended up at whatever house or apartment I could find for everyone (often my place) means my opinion of the meets is bullshit?
Fact : Daniel, you pushed people AWAY from the meets to push your own agenda, if someone disagrees with you, you rally everyone against them until they no longer want to be there.
And now, the meets are shit. You have your crew of politically correct SJWs who blindly follow whatever you say now, but none of them have any major interest in hacking.
There is no "hacker" meets in Melbourne anymore, ruxmon is for security professionals and 2600 is for feminists and other activists.
...and for those who don't know, I was kicked out of the meets by Daniel, for doxxing someone in the USA on Facebook who challenged me to. Daniel got butthurt when his friend (someone from the USA he has never met) lost his volunteer job which never existed and decided to go on a tyrannical rampage.
Yer, 2600 Melbourne, better not do any hacking or you'll get kicked out of the hacker group by the lead hacker for hacking.
Fuck that shit.
Matthew C
Jan 5, 2016, 6:10:57 AM1/5/16
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You should make your own 2600 meet up,
with blackjack and hookers.
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Sid Evanstock
Jan 5, 2016, 6:17:11 AM1/5/16
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Nah, I'm out, I'm leaving Melbourne in Feb anyway. Just thought I would get my 2c in.
I do miss the blackjack and hookers though
Timothy Glover
Jan 5, 2016, 6:44:31 AM1/5/16
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I thought most people move TO melbourne, not away :)
Sid Evanstock
Jan 5, 2016, 10:27:07 AM1/5/16
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For? It's certainly not the weather...
ComKal Networks
Jan 5, 2016, 11:48:10 AM1/5/16
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Hi,
> For? It's certainly not the weather...
I would much rather have Melbourne weather again
thanks ! At least your weather doesnt just sit in the
middle of temp and humidity for months on end like
Perth, Melbourne tends to be either wet, or not - I
call it logical weather :o)
Cheers
IBManners
> For? It's certainly not the weather...
thanks ! At least your weather doesnt just sit in the
middle of temp and humidity for months on end like
Perth, Melbourne tends to be either wet, or not - I
call it logical weather :o)
Cheers
IBManners
Dave Fernee
Jan 5, 2016, 5:55:32 PM1/5/16
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Daniel Tosello
Jan 6, 2016, 12:27:25 AM1/6/16
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I'm sorry you feel that way Sid.
I'm also sorry you're the only one in the community who feels that way.
I'm not sorry there's no more bullshit rivalry with Rux.
--Daniel
I'm also sorry you're the only one in the community who feels that way.
I'm not sorry there's no more bullshit rivalry with Rux.
--Daniel
ComKal Networks
Jan 6, 2016, 1:49:24 AM1/6/16
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Hi Dave,
> Respectfully disagree: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Seasons_in_One_Day
Me to, respectfully disagree that is :)
My experience that was really only true late 70's and
80's when I lived to the sw of Melbourne city. I can
remember going to the beach on a sunny day and
taking a jacket and umbrella.. for rain.. just in case..
even when no clouds were in sight and it was a calm
sort of day.
When I lived in Glen Iris, 2000-2011 that was rare.
Has Melbourne reverted ?
> Respectfully disagree: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Seasons_in_One_Day
Me to, respectfully disagree that is :)
My experience that was really only true late 70's and
80's when I lived to the sw of Melbourne city. I can
remember going to the beach on a sunny day and
taking a jacket and umbrella.. for rain.. just in case..
even when no clouds were in sight and it was a calm
sort of day.
When I lived in Glen Iris, 2000-2011 that was rare.
Has Melbourne reverted ?
Sid Evanstock
Jan 6, 2016, 7:25:07 AM1/6/16
to 2600-australia
Topkek Daniel
Enjoy your femmo crew of bitches, like I said, I'm out.
You doxxed my mother and I asked the Melbourne crew to back me, they all backed your SJW ass - because you lied like a little bitch.
Enjoy your security expert buddies, zero fucks given apart from reminding the world you're a fuckwit, thats why oldschool crew want nothing to do with you, and they are coming for a camping trip at my block.
Off ya go now, you got your meets and friends!
Morgan Reed
Jan 6, 2016, 9:12:36 PM1/6/16
to 2600-au...@googlegroups.com
On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:49 PM, ComKal Networks <ad...@comkal.com.au> wrote:
Has Melbourne reverted ?
Nah, most days you get a maximum of 2 seasons ;)
Daniel Tosello
Jan 6, 2016, 9:31:30 PM1/6/16
to 2600 Australia
I really hope your farm stuff works out well mate, honestly.
I don't know why you thought making an issue in public would help your cause here tho...
I don't know why you thought making an issue in public would help your cause here tho...
ad...@reviews.wox.org
Jan 6, 2016, 10:34:45 PM1/6/16
to 2600-au...@googlegroups.com
Every secret social group needs a code name.. 2600 is as
good as any, and the people using free trunk lines to call
Australia would have been using 2600 in the USA to get the
line. Who knows there may be an even secret'er group
called 2280.. but the name hasn't got the same ring to it..
and we all know the first rule of fight club...
Random: in Au putting a "19" at the end of any number dialed
on the original orange and grey rotory pay phones would
allow you to ring through.. but not speak to any number.
Handy for "making someones phone ring 3 times" as a secret
code. dialling 199 also allowed various interesting
things.. Orange phones could also be dialled normally
simply by tapping the hook to simulate dial pulses.
2600 has a code word has its roots in the 60's so no doubt
there were other random meetups. I was only posting
details I personally knew about myself thus the request for
anyone to fill any gaps i may have got wrong.
On 31/12/2015 3:30 PM, conscript wrote:
> Ummm that makes no sense, why call it 2600 when you have use 2280hz down under?
>
> There were meetings in the USA back in the early 70's organized by TAP magazine, as well as a convention.
>
we can fix the issues with the scope later..
good as any, and the people using free trunk lines to call
Australia would have been using 2600 in the USA to get the
line. Who knows there may be an even secret'er group
called 2280.. but the name hasn't got the same ring to it..
and we all know the first rule of fight club...
Random: in Au putting a "19" at the end of any number dialed
on the original orange and grey rotory pay phones would
allow you to ring through.. but not speak to any number.
Handy for "making someones phone ring 3 times" as a secret
code. dialling 199 also allowed various interesting
things.. Orange phones could also be dialled normally
simply by tapping the hook to simulate dial pulses.
2600 has a code word has its roots in the 60's so no doubt
there were other random meetups. I was only posting
details I personally knew about myself thus the request for
anyone to fill any gaps i may have got wrong.
On 31/12/2015 3:30 PM, conscript wrote:
> Ummm that makes no sense, why call it 2600 when you have use 2280hz down under?
>
> There were meetings in the USA back in the early 70's organized by TAP magazine, as well as a convention.
>
--
New and improved 2600... well..
..we drew on some flames and
polished it a bit..
--
Google - making sure, life is no more, than 1984...
--
Bill Gates: 640k is more than enough for anybody
PC guy down the road: You will never fill that 10mb Hard disk mate
Abbott/Turnbull: 25Mbps is "more than enough" for the average Australian household.
Turnbull: Actually 10MBs is enough for the average household really.
Abbott/Turnbull: It is cheaper to put in FTTN, you get up to 24mbs/down and 256k up..
we can upgrade it more later...
--
Abbott: We need to pass these extra nation wide surveillance laws as soon as possible,
New and improved 2600... well..
..we drew on some flames and
polished it a bit..
--
Google - making sure, life is no more, than 1984...
--
Bill Gates: 640k is more than enough for anybody
PC guy down the road: You will never fill that 10mb Hard disk mate
Abbott/Turnbull: 25Mbps is "more than enough" for the average Australian household.
Turnbull: Actually 10MBs is enough for the average household really.
Abbott/Turnbull: It is cheaper to put in FTTN, you get up to 24mbs/down and 256k up..
we can upgrade it more later...
--
we can fix the issues with the scope later..
ad...@reviews.wox.org
Jan 11, 2016, 7:37:56 PM1/11/16
to 2600-au...@googlegroups.com
...wait wait wait wait...
there be hookers, gambling and bitches at the Melbourne
meets now ?
Damnit.. Sid you shoulda sent me a memo!
;o)
You are all welcome to hang at my PC shop in Gippsland.. but
really, I got no bitches, gambling. feminists, or decent
broadband.. I cant compete with all that 1337 shit..
All i got here is nerfed adsl2 that M2 group (aanet) keep
putting on a "8mb noise profile" despite telstra confirming
line speed is a clean 16.5mb; my window display of strange
archaeological artefacts like ISA cards, hypertec cpus,
laserdisc. 1980 something game console, and random old PC
stuff.. oh and an Anonymous mask.. My wifi runs a mikrotik
hotspot; which has a common but not well known exploit
vulnerability you could try to hack, or learn to hack; if i
have time to explain it.
Oh and the old lady in the shop around the corner is has
some very amusing (misguided?) CDC anecdotes(there's a name
that is a blast from the past.. )... and appears to have
had some periphery involvement in the h/p/se community in
the mid 90s mendax era.
Feel free to bring hookers, gambling or bitches :P
PS the Indian restaurant next door has a Liquor licence..
On 6/01/2016 11:25 PM, Sid Evanstock wrote:
>
> Enjoy your femmo crew of bitches, like I said, I'm out.
>
>
there be hookers, gambling and bitches at the Melbourne
meets now ?
Damnit.. Sid you shoulda sent me a memo!
;o)
You are all welcome to hang at my PC shop in Gippsland.. but
really, I got no bitches, gambling. feminists, or decent
broadband.. I cant compete with all that 1337 shit..
All i got here is nerfed adsl2 that M2 group (aanet) keep
putting on a "8mb noise profile" despite telstra confirming
line speed is a clean 16.5mb; my window display of strange
archaeological artefacts like ISA cards, hypertec cpus,
laserdisc. 1980 something game console, and random old PC
stuff.. oh and an Anonymous mask.. My wifi runs a mikrotik
hotspot; which has a common but not well known exploit
vulnerability you could try to hack, or learn to hack; if i
have time to explain it.
Oh and the old lady in the shop around the corner is has
some very amusing (misguided?) CDC anecdotes(there's a name
that is a blast from the past.. )... and appears to have
had some periphery involvement in the h/p/se community in
the mid 90s mendax era.
Feel free to bring hookers, gambling or bitches :P
PS the Indian restaurant next door has a Liquor licence..
On 6/01/2016 11:25 PM, Sid Evanstock wrote:
>
> Enjoy your femmo crew of bitches, like I said, I'm out.
>
>
Daniel Tosello
Jan 12, 2016, 5:56:40 PM1/12/16
to 2600 Australia
So on the original topic, i dunno from ausphreak's POV... but i've always respected their shit. I also didn't know they were still active and it's great that they are.
I dunno where the idea that 2600 was money oriented came from... but then i don't know whether they meant 2600 mag, 2600 AU, 2600 Melb specifically or what.
I dunno where the idea that 2600 was money oriented came from... but then i don't know whether they meant 2600 mag, 2600 AU, 2600 Melb specifically or what.
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