Independent Stove | Gap 2020 Reserve Yours Today Only | Wiseway Pellet Stoves

[Gary Wisener]

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[Monique Robert]

Congrats on your new stove Gary! It’s unfortunately much too large for my tiny little house though, so I’ll have to pass on this one. I thought it was going to be a ton smaller…

Good luck with the sales! It’s cute!

Monique

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[sillyoldmare]

I am soooo frustrated with my Wiseway stove today, I'm ready to throw
it out into the snow and order the new one... buuut... will it have
the same issues?

I KNOW I don't have draft today-- but I don't know WHY. We're having
a healthy nor'easter-- and that's when I always have the best draft.
It is slightly warmer--and that IS when I have some trouble.

I have cleaned it to the best of my ability in winter-- used an ash
vac to suck out everything I can. I also use a tbsp or two of
'chimney sweep' from my local fire department every other week or so,
since I do have to mix in Tractor Supply Pine pellets with the
hardwood pellets, since I can't get mixed or softwood pellets.

My little house is filled with a light haze of smoke as I could never
actually get a draft going this AM or a fire started... but I can't
turn the damn thing OFF either. So... it's that light smoke/haze of
it burning out, with a TINY bit of draft you get when you run out of
pellets. Very light smoke coming out of the lid where the pellets
drop down to the firebox. I've shut the pellts down... given up on
having it work today...

It only ever seems to work 75% of the time. When it works-- it's
glorious. The rest of the time, I can't get it to start. The chimney
is straight up, professionally installed. GENERALLY when it's below
20* it works a charm, it's on the warmer days it doesn't want to go.
It is just soooo fussy, and I'm tired of fighting with it. Perhaps
it's the pellets. First year I was able to get mixed pellets, then
COVID was entrenched, and last year I mixed TSC Pine pellets and
hardwood, and we did OK for most of it. This year has been... dicey.

Will the new stove fit on the same stove pad the old one did? Will
it fit the same chimney the old one did? Will I have any luck with it
if the old one was finickey? Or is it also for the northWEST, not the
NorthEAST?

I am the Emergency Mangement Director for my County, and also Dispatch
E9-1-1. I NEED something that will RUN and STAY running in case of
power outages. This SEEMED too good to be true... and I guess maybe
it is. I'm just soo frustrated. What else can I DO???

Call me <frustrated in Maine>

[taco...@gmail.com]

Hi sillyoldmare,

A couple things on the issues you're having:

* I can't explain the pattern of when your issues pop up, but when our stove gets fussy, it's usually because its clogged up with ash right behind the thermometer. There's been times where I've pulled off the pipe and there's maybe an inch of free space for the draft to go through, the rest of the pipe is a literal pile of ash. Vacuuming that section, and the rest of the top tube, helps us tremendously when we're experiencing a severe lack of draft. I've used an air compressor + air gun to blow ash from the bottom of the stove to the top of the chimney, and thought that might clear the ash behind the thermometer, but you really gotta separate the pipe and vacuum in there. 

Also, spreading the burn basket about as far as it'll go while still fitting into the burn chamber has really helped us. We definitely go through more pellets this way but it helps keep the temp near 500 or 600 when we want it that way. 

* If you live in Maine, check out the pellet warehouse (https://www.bringthepellets.com/). These guys are awesome. They deliver to ALL of NH/ME and the price they show is the price delivered to your door. I've ordered probably 10 pallets so far (one at a time due to storage limitations) and they always get out to me within a few days of ordering. They have 100% softwood brands (Wood & Sons is our favorite) as well as Douglas Fir (the filet mignon of pellets, allegedly, I still haven't tried any). I've tried a couple other pellet brands in a pinch, and in my experience some can really suck, even if they are 100% softwood. I wasn't impressed with Logik-ê nor Okanagan once I saw what Wood & Sons could do. They burn hot and they burn complete, the other two brands left a lot of ~80% combusted material in the secondary which hindered draft a lot.

TL;DR - pellet brand/type, basket spacing, and stove cleanliness are the 3 keys to a happy stove, imo

Hope this ramble helps  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  <also in Maine>

[Bill Garrison]

More this year than last, I've seen our Wiseway get choked with cresote, significantly reducing the opening for pellets to drop into the burn basket. We're running our stove this season for days at a time (7-10), so that probably contributes a lot.

We see the max temp drop on the stove when it gets choked, which used to make me think our draft wasn't good enough. Vaccuming isn't enough to get the cresote out, but it's really easy to chip out since we regularly spray 'cresote-busting chemical™️'. The cresote choke is easy to see looking down the pellet feed chute into the burn basket. Is this happening in your stove?

We're using Northern Warmth Douglas Fir pellets. Most bags burn very clean, but we're in a run of bags now that are generating a lot of cresote. When I had to burn hardwood pellets at the end of last season, I saw similar dirty burn.

Bill

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[Gary Wisener]

If you have a   Leaf blower close your draft slide and maybe tape the holes remove the primary burn chamber stick the leaf blower where the primary burn chamber goes that should blow all the fly Ash up and out the chimney 

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[Gary Wisener]

As for our new  Stove We only have one on the East Coast and They haven't ran it yet. Someone from the East Coast is sending us pellets from that area So we can see how it works with hardwood pellets from that area. I designed this Stove to be less finicky Not that I built the wise way to be  Finicky. You adjust the temperature by adjusting the draft on the wiseway. The new stove uses maximum draft at all times we adjust the temperature by changing the size of the Basket and there is no secondary plate to clog over time stove stays pretty much the same temp over the entire burn period

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[sillyoldmare]

Thank you everyone for the suggestions. I have to work t'mow... but
will try the leaf blower (we have one in the barn I've never used--
but I'm game to try!!) I'll also remove all pellets and check out the
drop down and see if I have to chip out any creosote there.

Also checking out the link for pellets.

Thanks everyone for the quick replies. I LOVE my Wiseway, when I
don't hate it. :p <3

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[Heather Mazzella]

It’s the pellets. If you are getting pellets from Tractor supply see if they can have another store send them Minute Man pellets. I live on the east coast as well & started off with hardwood, since softwood was difficult to find, & quickly found that it just wasn’t going to work. Trouble starting, trouble staying on & kick back of smoke in the house. I found Northern Warmth from a fire place supply store burned great but pretty pricey. I found Minute Man at Tractor Supply & they work even better. They are 100% soft wood & reasonable at $7-$8 a bag. Once I started burning those the stove kicked up to burning at 500-600 stays on & I can burn a few bags back to back before having to clean. Good luck.

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[Brad Kershner]

I live in Ks and bought one last year. Fought it going out all winter long. Added flu pipe last summer. Used it once this year. Probably going to sell it this summer. Tired of fighting it.

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[ken woodbury]

This is good advice. As another Maine boy and having a 2014 for 6 or 7 years  all my problems boiled down to pellets, creosote around the burn chamber, pellet basket gap not wide enough(or too wide depending on what you want) or ash buildup. Pellets up here from Wood and Sons clearly best. I also use pellet warehouse. For years I burned LaCretes which were also good but the Wood Bros are better. To scrape creosote I bought a set of Harbor Freight pry bars. The long one gets down into the chamber well from the feed tube and the short one works well from the front. I vacuum ash every 3 days or so. I'm going to try Gary's leaf blower trick when I get back up to the mountains. That third tube is tough to clear but isn't a huge problem if you vacuum regularly. Every Spring I take it outside and hose the tubes out. Hope this helps some folks.

Thinking hard on that new stove!

Ken