stove doesnt want to keep temp

[joe west]

I finally got my stove in. Got through the red tape. Ive been running it a few days now. My problem is after the stove has been burning for 4 to 6 hours it wont keep the temp up. It starts out great. Run right up to 650 if i want it to. Adjust it to burn at 550 or so it burn great for a few hours. Then it starts to tapper off especially over night when im not right there to play with it. Last night was right up 550 when i got up 6 hours later it was at 375. I even got up about 3 hours after i went to bed to giggle the secondary burn plate and check for ash. It was fine then. Went back to bed. Ive tried every thing thats in the forum to bring the temp back up. I gapped the basket which was way small to start with. First burn before i couldnt get it above 500 after i clearanced the basket to 5/16. Night and day ran right up to 600. I have open it up now an extra 64th each and that helped a little. Ive cleaned the ash out of the burn chamber. Stick a nail pullin bar in and knocked the ash off the back of the secondary chamber slide. Basicaly all the ash i can get out of it. Ive tried runnin it with the primary burn chamber cover off. That helps temporarily. Tried pulling the secondary burn plate out an inch or less. That doesnt help. I installed the hopper seal kit. Thanks for sending that out matt. Ive tried about 8 diffrent brands of pellets. The best were a soft wood. Okanagan made in canada from douglas fir. Some other spruce pellets were good too. Once it looses the temp i cant get it back doesnt matter what pellet i putin it. It wont burn an entire bag with out cooling off. If i shut it down and vacume it out it will run good again till 5 or so hours later. I dont think i have a draft issue. With the stove cold i pull draft up the chimney. Which is 9ft straight up 4 inch double wall pellet vent pro with a baro damper. I do have fresh air comming in. Have tried fresh air hooked up and on the floor next to the stove. No diffrence. I could understand if i burnt several bags and it was ashed up but i cant even burn 1 whole bag without any issues. I cant go to bed or leave it while i go to work without worring if its gonna soot up or not. I really like the concept of the stove and its looks but really dont like the idea of having to babysit it constantly. I know its a wood stove but all my other wood stoves i never had to worry about it mysteriousy loosing temp unless it ran out of wood when i wasnt there. Any suggestions? What can i do. Thank a bunch in advance.

[Gary Wisener]

Adding another  5 ft of chimney would help probable, 9 is ok but on the short side for a barometric damper I talked to Matt and he it's going to send you a new secondary burn plate with slots instead of holes that should help you
Gary

I finally got my stove in. Got through the red tape. Ive been running it a few days now. My problem is after the stove has been burning for 4 to 6 hours it wont keep the temp up. It starts out great. Run right up to 650 if i want it to. Adjust it to burn at 550 or so it burn great for a few hours. Then it starts to tapper off especially over night when im not right there to play with it. Last night was right up 550 when i got up 6 hours later it was at 375. I even got up about 3 hours after i went to bed to giggle the secondary burn plate and check for ash. It was fine then. Went back to bed. Ive tried every thing thats in the forum to bring the temp back up. I gapped the basket which was way small to start with. First burn before i couldnt get it above 500 after i clearanced the basket to 5/16. Night and day ran right up to 600. I have open it up now an extra 64th each and that helped a little. Ive cleaned the ash out of the burn chamber. Stick a nail pullin bar in and knocked the ash off the back of the secondary chamber slide. Basicaly all the ash i can get out of it. Ive tried runnin it with the primary burn chamber cover off. That helps temporarily. Tried pulling the secondary burn plate out an inch or less. That doesnt help. I installed the hopper seal kit. Thanks for sending that out matt. Ive tried about 8 diffrent brands of pellets. The best were a soft wood. Okanagan made in canada from douglas fir. Some other spruce pellets were good too. Once it looses the temp i cant get it back doesnt matter what pellet i putin it. It wont burn an entire bag with out cooling off. If i shut it down and vacume it out it will run good again till 5 or so hours later. I dont think i have a draft issue. With the stove cold i pull draft up the chimney. Which is 9ft straight up 4 inch double wall pellet vent pro with a baro damper. I do have fresh air comming in. Have tried fresh air hooked up and on the floor next to the stove. No diffrence. I could understand if i burnt several bags and it was ashed up but i cant even burn 1 whole bag without any issues. I cant go to bed or leave it while i go to work without worring if its gonna soot up or not. I really like the concept of the stove and its looks but really dont like the idea of having to babysit it constantly. I know its a wood stove but all my other wood stoves i never had to worry about it mysteriousy loosing temp unless it ran out of wood when i wasnt there. Any suggestions? What can i do. Thank a bunch in advance.

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[joe west]

Ok. Not sure if i can go more chimney. I have 3 1/2 ft sticking out of the roof now. I was concerned with loosing the heat in the chimney. Unless your experience says it would be ok with double wall pipe. Ill try the secondary burn plate out and go to the option of more chimney if that doesnt work out. Tonight ill try running without the baro damper and see if that helps. Matt should have my address he shipped me a seal kit a couple of weeks ago. Ill send him an email with it again just to be sure. Ill let you know how i make out without the damper. Thanks a bunch.

[Paul Yattaw]

HI Joe I was wondering if you got your stove working right ? I have the same problem, I can get high temps with any pellet I burn all low ash 5 % or less but what happens with my stove

is if I lower the temp because it might be getting to hot in the room . like say 72 or so, the stove does not like to come back up to temp I have 4inch on the stove right now, I had 3 inch before.

 no luck .I just bought a new4 inch vacustack if you want to try my old new  3 inch I will sell it to you cheap. just let me know . going to install that 4 inch and I bought a barometric damper. I

just have to pick up a tee to install that. Gary has been a lot of help . I will get this baby going good . I do think cleaning is the key but that can be tuff shutting down the stove every .

On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:38:36 AM UTC-5, joe west wrote:

[Paul Yattaw]

DAY

On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:38:36 AM UTC-5, joe west wrote:

[David E Gerard Sr]

Hey Paul, My Vacustack Worked Well For Me, Adjusted Out The Damper On A Warm Day And Its Been Running Great, I  Deep Clean My Stove Once A Week, Shake Down The Secondary Burn Plate Twice A Day, And Dump The Ash Pot , I Also Run A Coat Hanger Thru The Burn Basket At The Same Time , Removes Clinkers, When I Shut Down I Close The Damper On The Bottom Cover My Damper With A Pellet Bag And Some Tape To Hold It Tight, Then I Reverse My Shop Vac And Blow The Ashes Right Up The Chimney,, Works Very Well, I Usually Can Tell When Its Dirty Cause It Will Glow Red On Top Of The Bottom Tube,,I Think I Learned The Curve,, Stoke It Up Like A Wood Stove, IE; Coat Hanger Thru All The Grates In The Burn Basket,, Ash Removal On The Secondary, And Remove The Ash,, Running Great Heating Wonderfully, About A Bag And A Half In 24 Hours, The Only Other Thing I Noticed And I Think   its Pellet Quality, Is The Space Right Under The BASKET In Front A Little Square Channel Will Plug Up With Ash Sometimes, Same Coat Hanger Cleans That Out As Well , I Do Everything When The Stove Is Running Except The Shop Vac Thing Of Course,,,,,,,  

[Paul Yattaw]

I just cleaned my stove I put my shop vac down the top of the stove a deep clean as you say, installed the vacustack then I lit the stove it went right up to temp . so I should clean it like that every week ? Gary told me I should only have to clean it like that at the end of the season.  it would be nice if we could run a water hose down the top to clean it . we could catch the dirty water

some how at the bottom with a 5 gallon bucket . DAM this thing needs a lot of time tooooooooooo care 4.

On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:38:36 AM UTC-5, joe west wrote:

[David E Gerard Sr]

I Believe Pellet Quality Has A lot To Do With Cleaning Intervals, I Clean Mine Every Week, You Can Run Water Thru It, Take It Outside If You Can ,I; Rather Blow It Right Thru, I Put A Scope Down The Tube When I'M Done And Theres Nothing Inside Except Shiny Metal ,It Really Is No More Work Than A Wood Stove, Actually Less Work, But The Heat Is Worth It In My Humble Opinion ,,

[joe west]

Still trying to figure this thing out. I have run the past 2 days without the baro damper. Im running some spruce point softwood pellets. Supposed to be .34 ash and 8700 btu. Super premium pellets. There the best i can find here in mass for softs. With out the baro when i light the stove from a fresh cleaning it wont go past 525 now. Kinda hovers around there for a couple hours then slowly tapers off. I have a long skewer i use to poke at the space that clogs up in front of the basket including the little triangle piece that supports that end of the burn tube and a wonder bar i use to knock ash off the angled piece that drops to the burn plate. Ash tends to accumulate right in front of the fresh air inlet too. Doesnt matter weather its hooked up or 3 inches away. I can poke and prod all i want and it doesnt do any good. I might get it to rise 50° or so then it comes back down within half an hour. Seems to hover Around 400 to 450. Interesting thing i found out yesterday morning. I got up to find the stove just runningout of pellets. That point when you take the cover off the secondary hopper and can see the burn basket but there is still a nice glow from the secondary burn plate. So i pushed the pellets that hung up in the main hopper in and took my pooch for her morning walk. When i got back 10 minutes later it was up to 550 so i figured id put half a bag in and go to work and check it at lunch. Well i got home and the stove was screaming at 675° living room was 80°. I figure it was runningthat hot all morning to make it 80 in the house. I shut it down at that point. Not really comfortable yet lettin it run that hot with no one around to watch after it. Same thing this morning. Got up it was running out again. I can tell it didnt run hot over night cause the living room was only 65° and i heard the furnace kick on a time or two over night. I added a couple of scoops to it before going for the morning walk. When we got back, again it was runnin at 650 again. So i left it to burn out for the day. I didnt have time to see if it responded to opening the damper on the stove to cool it off. Im gonna try tonight gettin it going for a few hour, close the hopper door, let it run till just about out and then hit with some more pellets and see what happens. Gary and matt have been alot of help. There sending me a slotted burn plate. Hopfuly that will help. By the way it burns hotter with the fresh air hooked up rather than a couple inches away.

[Paul Yattaw]

NO WORK TODAY. so I cleaned the stove last night thoroughly top to bottom, filled it with pellets got right up to temp no problem I could peg the thermometer . I have not changed a thing  and stove will not climb  to those temps this morning.so is this the nature of the beast ? if so I wasted so much time and money, if all I have to do is blow out the stove every day with a shop vac or a leaf blower. if this is the case I will stay with the 3 inch.. I will cut a square  block with a round hole in it to fit in the stove wait 4 a windy day and blow all the ash up the chimney .I do have a white truck in my driveway .this is going to be interesting . 

On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:38:36 AM UTC-5, joe west wrote:

[joe west]

Thanks for the cleaning input David. I do all those things except i hadnt thought to blow the ash up the chimney. I think ill try that out tonight when i clean it again.

[joe west]

[joe west]

Yeah blowing the ash up the chimney could make a mess on the roof but i suppose the rain will wash it off. Might be good for the flower beds when it does run off. My stove seems to do the opposite of your paul. Cold at night and takes off in the morning. Some more tinkerin and hopfully i can get a consistent burn. Id like to run it up to 550 to 600 and have it stay there untill it runs out of pellets. I have no problem cleaning it daily but it would be nice to burn an entire bag of pellets before it needs cleaning. Or know what its gonna do while im at work for the day. I think the new slotted plate will let more air in and more ash fall into the ash pan. I dont seem to get much ash in the pan untill i giggle or take the secondary plate out. Gigglin it doesnt do much. To get the ash to fall i have to pull the plate out. Then the pan is just about full.

[Paul Yattaw]

I am at a loss 4 words right now . can somebody chime in ? r we doing something wrong? maybe Gary could engineer some type of ash deflector were it would drop down it to a pan or something. we need to clean the stove out every bag of pellets. my wife said to me it seems to me you have to tooooo do a lot of work too that stove. I bought this stove so I would not have to lug wood  anymore . I haven't cleaned my wood stove flue in 5 years. I clean the ash out of the bottom once a week. Vermont casting.the only problem I have with this stove is it won't climb up to temp after I open up the air inlet .and I know its because of the ash build up......... is everybody cleaning there stove all the time ? .

On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:38:36 AM UTC-5, joe west wrote:

[scp...@gmail.com]

HI PAUL,

YOU SAID IT WONT COME UP TO TEMP WHEN YOU OPEN AIR INLET,IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE AIR INLET SLIDE PLATE ON THE SIDE YOU HAVE TO CLOSE IT TO RAISE TEMP,THE OPPOSITE OF A NORMAL WOOD STOVE.AND SOMETIMES OPEN IT UP ABOUT AN 1/8 INCH TO HELP CREATE A SECOND BURN EFFECT,, DEPENDING ON YOUR PELLETS AND AIR DRAFT.

[David E Gerard Sr]

When I Want The Stove To Fire Up After Running On Low I Close The Damper To About A Quarter Inch, Shake The Grate Rack The Burn Pot , And Within A Few Minutes The Temp Will Climb, The Other Thing At Play Here Is Outside Temp Changes The Draw On The Chimney, Colder Pulls Harder Warmer Less, I Had To Take All These Things Into Consideration When Operating This Stove, When Its Really Cold My Low Temp Is About 550 With The Damper Wide Open, But When Its Warmer Out I Have To Close The Damper About Three Quarters To Maintain The Same Temp, I Also Have My Burn Pot Set At About A Quarter Inch Spacing ,, I Do Only Clean The Tube Once A Week, Never Shut It Down Otherwise, And I have Yet To Find Any 100% Softwood Pellets In My Area, Burning Mixed By Energex, Also Burn Some Hardwood, Pellet Size Seems To Make All The Difference , Energex Are About A Quarter Inch Long, Some Hard Wood Pellets That I Have For My Other Stove Reach Sometimes 2 Inches Long, And They Do Not Burn Well In This Stove,I Give The Stove About 10 Minutes A Day Of My Time Total, Then About 10 Minutes Once A Week To Blow The Tube Out With My Shop Vac, Not Bad ,,, Same As My  Electric Pellet Stove Only Cleaning That One Takes Some Real Time, Interested To See What New Changes Where Made To The New Model That They Are Soon To Test,, Theres A Link On Hearth Burners .com About Some Changes Made By Gary , Different Angle To The Firebox, Or Something Like That,, And Some Other Upgrades As Well, If You Have A Minute Look It Up And Read His Post,,, It Took A While To Find The Sweet Spot And Every Application Is Different Im Sure Because Of  Geographic Locations , E.T.C ,But Once I Found It  The Stove Works As It Should And I'M Running With A 30 Foot 8 Inch Clay Tile Chimney,, ,,,,

[Paul Yattaw]

Good morning . yeah SCP that's what I should have said , when I close the draft it wont climb . yes Dave I agree with you I am starting to think it's the location I live in .I do like the stove

but its never the same  . one time with this set up , 2 feet of 3'' then a 45 then 1 foot of 3'' then another 45 then I dumped it right in to a 7'' . that 7'' went up 12 feet . at the top I put a 7x3 reducer

with a 3'' vacustack. I had the v stack left over from when I ran the stove with all 3'' . so with the stove running in to the 7'' with the 3'' stack it ran great I thought I had it down.. . i took off  for 25 minutes when i got back the first corner of the stove  was so red it looked light a break light. wow . it ran good like that for a day or so that being said .i am using Energex  preminum grade pellets.i think i will stick with the 4'' i have now and just clean out the stove more often.

On Monday, January 27, 2014 9:38:36 AM UTC-5, joe west wrote:

[joe west]

Good morning folks. So i had my girlfriend clean and light the stove lastnight as i got delayed at work. She just knocked the ash off gave it a quick vac and fired it up. It ran 650 all evening long. Had it 84° in my living room. First time my girlfriend said she wasnt cold with it running. I told her thats it your running the stove from now on. She did do something slightly different. When she opened the pellet door she only opened it half way. Pellets did sound as they dropping at a more consitent rate instead of all of a sudden a bunch would fall at once. Not sure if this made an actual diffrence but ill go with it. Was running 650 with the holes 3/4 open. If i opened them all the way up i could cool it down a little. Close them off and it started to rise again. Found the spot it wanted to run at 600 and let it run. Right before i went to bed i pulled the secondary plate, knocked the ash off the bottom right near the fresh air intake, put the plate back in and poked the basket and the space right in front of thr basket. Didnt touch the holes positions. Got up 3 hours later and checked it. It was doing fine actually moved up in temp to 650 again so i opened the holes up just a wisker. Went back to bed. Got up this morning and it was down to 400. Closed the holes, gave the fire box the usual treatment. When i got back from takin the dog out (15 minutes max) it was right back up to 600. I ran like it was supposed to. First time since installing it a week and a half ago. It used a whole bag of pellets in about 7 hours with the holes open 3/4. I filled the hopper to the brim just a little before midnight and there was just a hand full of pellets this morning at 7. It was warmer last night than it has been lately. Upper teens instead of single digits. Gonna be warmer all weekend. Well see tonight if it will be consistent or not. Thanks for all the great input everybody.

[joe west]

So i received the new slotted secondary burn plate. This didnt completely cure the ash problems but it has helped. Ash still accumulates and doesnt fall through the secondary but it does keep more air flowing through the coals (I think) and has increased the time needed in between diffrent mping the secondary. At least now it lasts through the night (roughly 7 hours) and i havent lost all my temp in the stove. Oh i switch over to the okanagin red bag pellets from the spruce points cause i couldnt get them anymore and there really nice pellets. Keep the improvements coming. Thanks Gary and Matt.

[Marty/Stove & Garden]

Hello

I have discovered an electric stove fan made by Regency stoves available from any Regency dealer.This is a high quality circulating fan,with two speeds ans a thermodisque that senses heat and will turn the fan off or on depending on the stoves temperature,when the fan is on low speed (very quiet) I beleive it DOUBLES the heat this Wiseway produces,the air temperature is stunning and the wall of heat it projects into a house is absaloutely incredible. For folks who want more heat Regency has the answer.

On Friday, 31 January 2014 09:19:01 UTC-5, joe west wrote:

[Gary Wisener]

Hi Marty glad to have you on board! I like your enthusiasm you will fit right in with the Wiseway family keep up the good work and feel free to email me anytime!
Thanks Gary
Inventer of the Wiseway Stove

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[Sillyoldmare]

Hi all, this is a REALLY old topic, but this is the best source I can find on the interwebz... 

Had two fabulous nights with my new stove in my new little 14x40 house... and now, I cannot get it to stay running for more than a couple hours at heat... 

Professionally installed--albeit it is his first Wiseway.  Straight up chimney, it's adapted out of the stove to a 6" chimney.  

Draft was so good first time I could hear it 'whoosh' with the propane torch alone before I dropped the pellets.  Haven't heard that since.  

I'm burning mixed pellets, because that's all we have, but very little ash, about half the tray per a bag.  Little-to-no residue on the secondary burn plate or the primary...  

Not sure what else to do.  Widen the burn basket?  Luckily we're warming up now, but I LOVE this stove, but can't seem to run it now after just two successful nights.  I NEED it to run all day/night when it's cold.  Was supposed to be primary heat source.  

[Monique Robert]

Try widening the fingers on the basket, yes. Also, tap the chimney with a rubber mallet. Sometimes the ash builds up in the chimney. Since you don’t have much ash in the pan, that might be where it’s building up.

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[Bill Garrison]

We've had similar experiences since getting our Wiseway installed in January. There definitely was a learning curve to figuring out how to operate it, and I'm only about 76-81% confident that I know what's going on now. That said, we've been able to get ours running at a reasonable temperature and keep it there (mostly).

We sought out softwood pine pellets (Northern Warmth Supreme Douglas Fir), which was a bear in itself. The closest vendor was 3 hours away...still in NY, but not really in the neighborhood. :-( I did try out mixed pellets at the very beginning, and they didn't work well for us temperature-wise (i.e. could only keep the stove around 350/400), but the stove was a *long* way from the configuration it's in now. I'm going to try these pellets again.

Our Wiseway replaced a regular wood stove that was vented through a 6" chimney pipe. Our chimney is exterior, and about 25' high, with a simple cap on top (no fancy Vacu-stack). At first, I followed the directions in the manual: 3"-to-6" increaser directly on the stove, and 6" pipe to the wall. Essentially, I just swapped the Wiseway in-place for the wood stove. It was a short span from the stove to the wall, but needed a 90 degree angle.

Ultimately, I switched to using 3" pipe all the way from the stove to the wall, with the necessary 3"-to-6" adapter placed at the wall. I also replaced the 90 degree angle piece with two 45-ish degree connectors. This configuration definitely improved the Wiseway's performance (400-450), but we kept futzing. Our final setup now includes fresh air intake coming from outdoors (3" flexible aluminum hose from the stove to a nearby window, because I wasn't going to cut a hole in my house in 20F weather).

The combination of 3" flue pipe for the majority of span from the stove to the wall *and* the outside air supply connected to the intake has given us the best performance. We now get 500-600 degrees consistently, using the 'preemo' pellets. On one of the coldest nights of the winter for us (0F, high winds), the Wiseway barreled all the way up to 800 degrees: it the first time I had to open the damper to bring the temp down.

I did futz with the burn basket, but mostly I just made sure that there was even spacing between all of the bars (5/16").

We also run the stove with the primary burn chamber cover off. It seems to help the draft in a big way (at least a 100F difference in running temp). To replace the cover, we fashioned a square patch of window screen wire to use in its place. We overlapped the wire in layers to get the mesh fine enough to block any stray embers. We also get to hear the rush of the draft through the stove, which makes a pleasing ambient sound for the room.

So now, we're able to run the stove at 500-600F degrees consistently, and for quite a few days at a time. I think we've gone five days, maybe six, in our longest run before shutting down and cleaning. Cleaning definitely helps boost the temp up, but we've been able to run for 3-4 days with the temp not dropping below 500.

We have to regularly shake down the secondary tray (morning and night for sure, sometimes in between). We don't get much ash, but do get clumping in the middle of the tray that starts to block airflow. Shaking it down helps keep it clear. We also regularly poke through the pellets in the basket to make sure that doesn't get clogged. I use a wire coat hanger (straighten out) to poke through the basket between each of the bars. My wife uses a flat metal kitchen utensil (a cake frosting knife).

We used to beat on the stove with a rubber mallet, but gave that up. It didn't seem necessary. I'd sacrifice a chicken if I thought it would help, but the ritual shaking and poking of the burn basket and tray seems to be enough to satisfy the fire gods for a decent stove burn.

We really like this Wiseway, and learning to make it work has been an adventure. I don't know if it can be easier. Everybody's home is different. Maybe if you could do the "ideal" install with a 15" chimney going straight out of the stove through the roof, this stove would kick butt from the get-go. The stove does seem to be really sensitive to all kinds of factors: flue pipe width, chimney height, outdoor temperature, barometric pressure, humidity, wind speed & direction...there's enough variability that I can't really predict how high of a temp the stove will run on any given day, although it has been consistently between 500-600F, sometimes 450, sometimes 650.

I think we'll have a Vacu-stack installed when the weather warms up, and maybe that will positively impact the chimney draft more. Although with our current chimney situation, the stove runs well enough for us.

I've learned more about meteorology and wood-fired heating system physics than I really wanted to, but the Wiseway seems to work well for us now.

Bill

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[sillyoldmare]

Thanks Bill.  That is encouraging. Some good ideas.  

I too *really like* this stove.  I like that when I come in out of the cold from farm chores, I can stand in front of it and it feels like a real stove... I like that it *should* run for my full work shift even if I get held over in a storm... (I'm in public safety, I'm always getting held over or called in..)  Just got to get it working.

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[sillyoldmare]

Interesting--you got me googling the Vacustack-- I've had the trouble in the windy nights, and I am in hills, in a VERY high wind area, and also adjacent to an indoor riding arena.... It worked well on very cold *STILL* nights.   HHMMMM..... 

[Bill Garrison]

US Stove to send out honorary degree certificates in Chimney Science to everyone who gets their Wiseway working in their home. I check my mailbox everyday...

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[Sillyoldmare]

lolol!!! hahaha!  It is... physics, engineering, meteorology... what am I forgetting?

[Monique Robert]

Ha! A chicken sacrifice was indeed what it feels like you need considering the learning curve of Wiseway instruction ;)

The stove definitely responds to barometric pressure and temperature outside. The greater temperature difference between outside and inside, the better the stove works. Kinda’ optimal really...I wouldn’t part with the stove. Just keep learning about it and it’s the best thing out there. I am completely off grid in Yellowknife NT (near the arctic circle) and I don’t even need a secondary system for my 1000 sq ft houseboat (frozen into the ice) even thought we are completely exposed to intense winter lake wind. Just sayin’...

Mo

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[Bill Garrison]

So today, I had to open the damper on my Wiseway to keep it from running away. Temp was 37F this morning, barometric pressure 30.1, low wind, and the stove shot straight up to 700F.

Except for one other time, I always run the stove with the damper closed and it stays in the 500-550 range. Today, it decided that it was going for the gold. Now damper-wide open and the temp now near 50F, the stove is running around 580.

This Wiseway is a just an interesting mystery. Chimney science feels as comprehensible to me as warp field mechanics...by which I mean, not very much.

[Monique Robert]

Well that’s great to hear!! Fantastic that it’s finally doing something for you~! :D

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[sillyoldmare]

Interesting. :/

I had a good two days-- but it still shut down itself overnight. I
did two things--so not sure which was the key... changed pellets to
the pine bedding pellet, (and mixing it with the mixed hard/soft
pellet) and cleaned everything out with the shop vac.

Honestly-- very, very little ash... and almost nothing in the shop
vac, (I sucked up that tiny little screw for the primary burn
chamber-- so I had to go poking around in there... ) so I'm not
convinced it was that.

Tonight she'll be going on the pine pellets. Definitely goes through
them faster. I did get screen for the primary air intake. Leaving
that off definitely helps after the first couple hours.

I'm not going to be thrilled if I have to babysit and fuss all the
time. The *point* of this over other stoves was if we lose power
while I'm at work during a major storm or emergency--it would keep
going. So far, I can't even keep it going all night. <sigh>

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[Monique Robert]

What I do to keep mine going:

Open the draft 1/2 way with the spin dial at the back almost fully open. I poke some pellets down on the secondary burn plate from the burn basket overhead to keep the fire going. Use a coat hanger wire, turned up at the end. Go to bed. It never, ever goes out. 

You say that you don’t get any ash. Mine builds up on the slide behind the burn basket yet above the secondary burn chamber. I pull out the secondary burn chamber, and poke at the “ash ball” that accumulates there every morning and every evening, then empty the ash pan. 

This is with a chimney with no turn. Straight out of the roof. I am perplexed as to how you are having so many problems. I’m really sorry...it’s such a great stove...

Mo

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[Greg Mann]

Hi Monique,

I needed to adjust the gaps of the pellet basket when I received mine a couple of years ago to get more heat. I found I was able to get the cleanest burn by only feeding the Wiseway with 100% Douglas Fir pellets. They cost a bit more burn much cleaner and produce the most heat for me.

My Best To You and Yours, 

Greg

Smartsville, Ca 95977 

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[Sophia Huyer]

Hello Monique,

Here’s what’s I had to do to get my Wiseway to burn properly (I now have to watch it because it wants to burn higher than 700F):

- Put in a vent to outside because it wasn’t getting enough draft. Seems to be extra important on mild days (0-15 C) and days when winds are light.  When not using it I stuff old towels in so it doesn’t let the cold air in.

- widened the bars in the burn basket very slightly

- I clean out the ash with a wet vac as far as I can reach with the the hose once a day. The temperature drops when the ash starts to collect in the burn area.

- does your chimney extend above the roof line? If not, I would fix that first, it’s made a huge difference for me.

Good luck!

Sophia

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[Sillyoldmare]

For anyone/everyone still following this... 

Ups and downs. I definitely need to add the external exhaust I think.

I've tried pine pellets--and they start better, but still go out overnight--or to very low.

The pellets don't properly feed down the bin, you end up with a big pile on the 'high' side overnight, which isn't a problem during the day when I'm around to shove them over, but is goign to be a problem for work days, as I work 12 hr shifts and am gone 13 hrs total... any suggestions on that? 

My chimney is higher than the roof line, but may be too wide?  Ug.  To change the chimney or the cap is the question.  Someone posted the fancy caps, and I'm game to try one of those--but would hate to have to get that and then have to get another chimney alltogether as the caps are not interchangeable... :-/ 

[Sophia Huyer]

I use premium pellets — a hardwood/softwood blend. THey work really well and there’s very little ash buildup.

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[Bill Garrison]

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Sillyoldmare <sillyo...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> The pellets don't properly feed down the bin, you end up with a big pile on the 'high' side overnight, which isn't a problem during the day when I'm around to shove them over, but is goign to be a problem for work days, as I work 12 hr shifts and am gone 13 hrs total... any suggestions on that?

This happens to me as well. I read a suggestion of placing some metal sheeting on the bottom of the hopper. I was going to try some roof flashing cut down to fit. This would give a surface with less friction for those rascally pellets to slide down.