Charging Your New Phone, Anyone?

[M. Taylor]

Hello All,

Okay, based on my research I cannot find any Apple articles that discouraged
leaving an iPhone 14 on a charger, when not in use.

You old-timers will recall that, once upon a time, it was recommended that
one not leave a phone on a charger, when not in use, full-time. It was
thought that doing so would shorten the life of the battery.

I found an Apple community thread that discusses this and the conclusion is
that leaving a 14 attached to a charger, when not in use, will, in no way
damage or shorten the life of the battery.

Question: Does anyone have any credible statements / sources to the
contrary? If so, please post them as this can make a difference to the life
of the battery, in the long run.

Unlike in the past, I want to consider all aspects of keeping my iPhone
battery healthy from the very beginning.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Mark,

I don't leave my iPhone 13 Mini on a charger when not in use but I do have it connected to a charger when I go to bed at night. I would recommend you go to Settings, Battery, Battery health and charging and make sure Optimized battery charging is turned on. On that same screen, you can check what your battery's maximum capacity is and mine is at 94% after a year and two months of use which I'm satisfied with.

Enjoy your new iPhone 14 Pro and all the best getting it customized exactly to your liking.

Alan Lemly

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[M. Taylor]

Hello Andy,

Yes, I have noticed the difference in the temp of the charging brick. Hmm! Interesting. Thank you for posting this.

Mark

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I believe that the old advice you are referring to was in regard to NiCad batteries, which for the most part are no longer in use. The Lithium Ion batteries used today are much more forgiving, and as far as I know, will not be damaged by staying on a charger.
Also, the chargers used today are smarter, in that they contain a chip that will stop current when the battery reaches a full charge.
If you touch your Apple charging brick while it is charging, it feels very warm, but after the charge is complete it is cold. This is because it is no longer passing current to the battery.

Andy

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[M. Taylor]

Hello Alan,

Great advice. I just checked and the optimize battery life is enabled.

I am having fun tweaking the new phone so that it is just right; you know me well (smile). And actually, you're right, it is kind of fun exploring all of the new settings that were not available on my beloved 8 Plus.

Mark

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[Richard Turner]

Mark,
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If so, which group has the most members? I will unsubscribe from the one with the least number of people.




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[M. Taylor]

Hi Gordon,

Thank you for your post.

So, if Apple added the optimized battery setting, then it would seem that even when the phone is connected to a charger, it will not charge to 100% even though the A/C current is available, or so I would think. This would lead me to believe that leaving the phone connected to a charger would have no detrimental affect on the device.

Batteries, batteries, batteries. It would seem that, even at the end of 2022, they are still the weakest link in the technology food chain. I don't know; just a thought.

You know what? In my mind, I think of batteries in the same way as I think of printers; boring but necessary (smile).

Mark


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It's not good to leave the charger connected all the time. This is why Apple added that feature in battery settings called optimized charging.
This learns your sleep habits and keeps your battery at 80 percent for most of the night and kicks in and finishes charging up to 100 percent before you wake up. Lithium ion batteries don't like stress. They are under the most stress when fully charged at 100 percent and below about
15 percent. So that's why Apple says keeping your battery between these points is best for long life.

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[Dennis Long]

I will drain my battery down then charge it up.

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[M. Taylor]

Hello Richard,

Were I you, I would unsubscribe from the V iPhone 2, group.

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[Carolyn Arnold]

From what I have seen on the phone lists, I am keeping my iPhone 14 Pro battery between 20% and 80%. I have to charge about every three days.

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[M. Taylor]

As is mine, also, Sieghard.

Mark


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Except mine has never done this, if I plug it in at 10:30 and let's say it's at 30% then if I check it a couple of hours later at Midnight or 1 AM it is always at 100%.

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Well Apple says it's better if your phone doesn't just sit there at 100 percent all the time. the battery optimization is designed to keep this from happening. Lets say you go to sleep every night at 10:30 and plug your phone in and you wake up at 5:30. Your phone might reach 80 percent around 12:30. Then it will stop until around 4:45 or so where it will resume charging in order to be at 100 by the time you wake up. If you use your phone more than usual and put it on the charger early, it would then charge all the way because the new schedule isn't recognized. so according to Apple, it's better if you don't keep your phone plugged in all the time. It would put your battery under unnecessary stress and could make your battery health degrade a little quicker.

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