<<list-links "[backlinks[]]">>
If you open the tiddler (i)nfo slider and select the "References" tab you get what you want.
If you open the tiddler (i)nfo slider and select the "References" tab you get what you want.
OK, I didn't notice this before (I'm new).
Thanks for the macros solutions. For now I'll stick to an unmodified version of the wiki, since the "References tab" is enough for me.
I'm quite concerned by portability issues so I prefer to modify the wiki as little as possible and only add content.
Thanks for your help!
For me this significantly slows down the test TW. Full download from tiddlywiki.com. .. But I'm not sure yet.
But that works for me, maybe it does not for you.
Right now when I turn on the "title as a link" it's pretty worthless
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I've been meaning to compliment you on TiddlyMap - it is pure awesomeness!
I'm using the live view on the site I'm building at xscale.wiki and expect to do a lot of process diagramming with it in tiddlers. Given that most of the XSCALE process involves composites of feedback loops, I can't think of a better tool for such a purpose.
Now while I like the idea that TM can display the backlinks, that would require the user to shift their gaze from the story stream to the map.
I should have said that the existing title-as-link is just worthless to me - I have no doubt whatsoever that every feature in TW has utility, but I'm just trying to bend the thing to my will.
While I have your attention, however, I have a couple of TM questions ...* I wonder whether it's possible for a tiddler that has an embedded map to display it in the sidebar rather than inline? In other words, for focusing on a tiddler to cause the sidebar to change to its embedded view?
Well, I could add a tiddler field
tmap.open-view
is opened......but you can also achieve this very easily with existing means, here you go:
I think I should add this code to a "Useful TiddlyMap code snippets" section in the docs...
Well, here is the code (see also screenshot):
\define showNoMatchMessage()
Sorry, no Diagram (Map/View) for this tiddler...
\end
\define getMatchingView()
$(allViewsFilter)$ +[field:title{$:/temp/tmap/currentTiddler}]
\end
<!-- build a filter that selects a view that matches the currently focussed tiddler -->
<$vars allViewsFilter=<<tmap "option" "selector.allViewsByLabel">>>
<!-- if a match exists, display the view, otherwise show the empty message -->
<$list filter=<<getMatchingView>> emptyMessage=<<showNoMatchMessage>> variable="match">
<!-- the actual map -->
<$tiddlymap view=<<match>>></$tiddlymap>
</$list>
</$vars>
Hope this is what you wanted...
* Could we have a setting for the half-screen mode that hides the editing tools? I'm asking because the way I'm setting up at the moment only people who use github will be able to save, where the majority of users will only be navigating around on the public site - ?
Thanks for sharing your use case. It is always valuable for me to get some feedback on how TiddlyMap is used. Personally, I am acquainted with Scrum and Kanban ("1st generation") but never came into touch with other agile strategies. In case of drawing process diagramss, the next release of TiddlyMap will feature the design of nodes, and add a GUI for styling edges and nodes. But this release is not done yet as I have to carefully plan the architecture, especially considering the usability.
Well, actually no :) The dropdown button, (see attached screenshot in the last post) is in the tiddler's toolbar in the story river (stream) and is independent of the maps. So the user does not have to leave the stream/river.Now while I like the idea that TM can display the backlinks, that would require the user to shift their gaze from the story stream to the map.
Hmm, so you are talking about a higher form of "live view" here right? Not sure if I understand this correctly but you want
- a tab in the sidebar (or maybe the "map" tab) that,
- when a tiddler is
- opened
- or scrolled into view,
- displays a certain view (map) that was manually created in advance?
Well, I could add a tiddler field
that can be set to a view title so when the tiddler is opened or navigated to, the maptmap.open-view
is opened...
...but you can also achieve this very easily with existing means, here you go:
- Create a new tiddler and tag it with "$:/tags/SideBar" so it appears in the sidebar.
- Create a list that iterates over all views
- Put every map you want to link to inside a list widget and use a list filter that checks for the focussed tiddler (HotZone Plugin) and the last tiddler in the history (field in $:/HistoryList); use the "$:/temp/tmap/currentTiddler" for that
- if a view exists with the name of your tiddler that is currently displayed, display that view, otherwise, display a text.
I think I should add this code to a "Useful TiddlyMap code snippets" section in the docs...
* Could we have a setting for the half-screen mode that hides the editing tools? I'm asking because the way I'm setting up at the moment only people who use github will be able to save, where the majority of users will only be navigating around on the public site - ?You could use css to hide the editing tools by using "display: none" e.g on ".tmap-menu-bar" and "vis-manipulation".
But I should add an option to have tiddlymap displayed in "no edit mode" where a user can still select views. I will put that on my list.
I like this but I'm thinking of something a bit simpler. Right now when I turn on the "title as a link" it's pretty worthless - the only effect of clicking is to nudge the focus in the story stream.
What I want is for clicking the title link to open the References tab. I see the title as the obvious place to click to get backlinks - that's how it used to work on c2 anyway.
So ... is there an easy way to tweak your code here to do this? Really it seems like it ought to be easy to adorn the link in the title ViewTemplate with some kind of transclusion magic but I'm not certain that's sensible ...
On Sunday, August 9, 2015 at 9:47:11 AM UTC+2, Peter Merel wrote:I like this but I'm thinking of something a bit simpler. Right now when I turn on the "title as a link" it's pretty worthless - the only effect of clicking is to nudge the focus in the story stream.
"pretty worthless" ... ouch, that hurts. We all want to create great stuff. I personally prefer a more diplomatic: "I like the feature, but there's room for improvements ... to fit my usecase", or something similar ;)
What I want is for clicking the title link to open the References tab. I see the title as the obvious place to click to get backlinks - that's how it used to work on c2 anyway.
- check: info – Show information for this tiddler to make the info panel button visible for every tiddler
- tell your users, that the can get the "backlinks" if they select the "info-button" and the "Reference" tab.
IMO no 3 should be relatively simple to implement and shouldn't interfere with the templates.
No 2 is the version I personally prefer, since I try to remove all dropdowns and modals from my own themes.
have fun!
mario
I was aware of that one. It's part of the way there. I hate to seem persnickety, but I think with the extra click and having to figure out that References means backlinks ... it's not quite there.
No worries at all. I don't think TM should be confused with powerpoint. To give an example of what I don't imagine TM doing, here's my curliest big-picture diagram. I expect this kind of thing to remain in the realm of externalimages. When time permits I'm thinking it should become an imagemap that links to the appropriate tiddlers. Each of them would have a TM that illustrates its process. I haven't yet figured out the intricacies of imagemaps but I know gimp can generate 'em.
IMO if you create this image as an SVG, it would be easy to make it interactive.
See: http://tiddlywiki.com/#UsingSVG for some very simple examples.
-m
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Done ... but I still want to find a way to get the titles to open same. It's far from the top of my list but it just sounds like it ought to be simple and configurable like most other tiddly things ... I shall cool my jets until I have enough expertise to have a go at it.
I'm loving tiddlymap over on http://xscale.wiki but since it's heavily intertwingled I'd like to only show the incoming links to the current tiddler rather than also the outgoing ones.
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We used TiddlyWiki and TiddlyMap for a university project (http://www.hallo-sme.uni-hamburg.de) and usability tests clearly showed that users do not expect double clicks…
Now off figuring out how you implemented the topmenu. Looks like it's pure css. ;-)Best wishes,— tb
I imagine you have a look to http://www.hallo-sme.uni-hamburg.de/#main.scss and http://www.hallo-sme.uni-hamburg.de/#compile.sh ;)