C&O canal for mulberry tree and carp

[Aaron O]

So I'm going for carp fishing with mulberry flies. I know ther is one tree in Georgetown, anyone know of other locations?

[Rob Snowhite]

Along roaches run parking lot though never seen anything but Orioles (not cal) eat them. In fact never seen a carp eat a berry fly anywhere.

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> On Jun 6, 2015, at 8:31 PM, Aaron O <osh...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> So I'm going for carp fishing with mulberry flies. I know ther is one tree in Georgetown, anyone know of other locations?
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[Aaron O]

So I went with Jeff to the canal this morning in a hunt for mulberry trees and carp.  We fished with some success up and down the canal until I had to leave for work.  Jeff was able to to catch two carp (one was 3 and 4 pounds and the other one was 6 to 7 pounds) and I had only one sold hook up from a large carp but I over set the hook and snapped the tippet.  I plan on going out again real soon to give it another try.

What I will say is that depending on the timing, fishing with mulberries can be productive.  I would suggest that if anyone was going to try with mulberry flies, that you tie them in white foam and use red and dark purple markers for variations between the three colors.  I would also make a couple with a weighted core to have it float in the subsurface and give a good SPLAT! to better imitate the landing of a real berry.

[TurbineBlade]

Very cool -- you carp-in-the-canal folks are like some kind of guild working mysteries while people who jog-in-place while talking to each other rummage about behind you.  

Gene

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[Jeffrey Silvan]

I'll second what Aaron said about the bigger splat. The berries we used worked great, but just didn't have as good of a splat as the real thing. The other thing I noticed was sometimes the carp would swoop in while the berry was still subsurface. They took a long time to float back to the surface in some cases. By the way, Aaron is probably the most committed person to catching a fish and helping others do so I've ever seen. He threw away all abandon and laid in poison ivy to try to net one, and I'm pretty sure he was about to jump in the canal if needed.

I was able to get took more hook ups after Aaron had to leave. One monster broke me off after 15-20 seconds. I managed to somehow land the last one, though. I was fishing near the south side of the old boat in the end of the canal, and didn't have a good game plan for landing a fish. i literally have no idea how I landed it, because nearly everything possible went wrong, but I still managed to get it to the net. It went on a hell of a run and of course made a sharp left around the bridge pilings. He had no thoughts about slowing down, and I started seeing my fly line getting low. I contemplated for a minute breaking him off on purpose because I was afraid he'd sever my backing and I'd loose the whole line, but I figured I'd press on and hope it held. I saw almost 100 feet of backing before I stopped the fish, and luckily it held. Also luckily, the fish decided to come back around the correct side of the pilings to not completely wrap me up. But it wasn't over yet. Once I cleared him of the boat, the fish decided to swim around the other side of the boat, promptly getting the leader stuck on the boat itself. At that point, I had to do some passing the rod around some trees, walk across the bridge, and somehow popped the line free. At this point, there's a good 25 people watching this spectacle. Finally, I walked the fish down to the end and was able to scoop him up to the cheers of the crowd. I felt the leader, and it felt like I was running my hand over sandpaper. I still have no idea how it held up. The pictures don't do the size of the fish justice, but it was probably pushing pretty darn close to 10 lbs.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Aaron O <osh...@gmail.com> wrote:

So I went with Jeff to the canal this morning in a hunt for mulberry trees and carp.  We fished with some success up and down the canal until I had to leave for work.  Jeff was able to to catch two carp (one was 3 and 4 pounds and the other one was 6 to 7 pounds) and I had only one sold hook up from a large carp but I over set the hook and snapped the tippet.  I plan on going out again real soon to give it another try.

What I will say is that depending on the timing, fishing with mulberries can be productive.  I would suggest that if anyone was going to try with mulberry flies, that you tie them in white foam and use red and dark purple markers for variations between the three colors.  I would also make a couple with a weighted core to have it float in the subsurface and give a good SPLAT! to better imitate the landing of a real berry.

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[Scott Stankus]

Great story, Jeff! And whoever you had take those photos did a fantastic job! Was it just a passer-by? If so luck was on your side that day... landing that fish (against all odds) and finding someone to take quality photos of it!

Well done!

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[tperkins]

Explains why the carp were so spooky there yesterday evening! I had one come and look at my fly and that was it. All the others spooked as soon as I stopped walking. Well done!

On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 10:12:35 AM UTC-4, Scott S wrote:

Great story, Jeff! And whoever you had take those photos did a fantastic job! Was it just a passer-by? If so luck was on your side that day... landing that fish (against all odds) and finding someone to take quality photos of it!

Well done!

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On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'll second what Aaron said about the bigger splat. The berries we used worked great, but just didn't have as good of a splat as the real thing. The other thing I noticed was sometimes the carp would swoop in while the berry was still subsurface. They took a long time to float back to the surface in some cases. By the way, Aaron is probably the most committed person to catching a fish and helping others do so I've ever seen. He threw away all abandon and laid in poison ivy to try to net one, and I'm pretty sure he was about to jump in the canal if needed.

I was able to get took more hook ups after Aaron had to leave. One monster broke me off after 15-20 seconds. I managed to somehow land the last one, though. I was fishing near the south side of the old boat in the end of the canal, and didn't have a good game plan for landing a fish. i literally have no idea how I landed it, because nearly everything possible went wrong, but I still managed to get it to the net. It went on a hell of a run and of course made a sharp left around the bridge pilings. He had no thoughts about slowing down, and I started seeing my fly line getting low. I contemplated for a minute breaking him off on purpose because I was afraid he'd sever my backing and I'd loose the whole line, but I figured I'd press on and hope it held. I saw almost 100 feet of backing before I stopped the fish, and luckily it held. Also luckily, the fish decided to come back around the correct side of the pilings to not completely wrap me up. But it wasn't over yet. Once I cleared him of the boat, the fish decided to swim around the other side of the boat, promptly getting the leader stuck on the boat itself. At that point, I had to do some passing the rod around some trees, walk across the bridge, and somehow popped the line free. At this point, there's a good 25 people watching this spectacle. Finally, I walked the fish down to the end and was able to scoop him up to the cheers of the crowd. I felt the leader, and it felt like I was running my hand over sandpaper. I still have no idea how it held up. The pictures don't do the size of the fish justice, but it was probably pushing pretty darn close to 10 lbs.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Aaron O <osh...@gmail.com> wrote:

So I went with Jeff to the canal this morning in a hunt for mulberry trees and carp.  We fished with some success up and down the canal until I had to leave for work.  Jeff was able to to catch two carp (one was 3 and 4 pounds and the other one was 6 to 7 pounds) and I had only one sold hook up from a large carp but I over set the hook and snapped the tippet.  I plan on going out again real soon to give it another try.

What I will say is that depending on the timing, fishing with mulberries can be productive.  I would suggest that if anyone was going to try with mulberry flies, that you tie them in white foam and use red and dark purple markers for variations between the three colors.  I would also make a couple with a weighted core to have it float in the subsurface and give a good SPLAT! to better imitate the landing of a real berry.

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[Jeffrey Silvan]

Scott - you're right, I got lucky in every aspect - including the spectator that knew how to take a good photo and framed it up nicely with the boat in the background. Aaron's photos came out pretty awesome too, especially some of the close ups of the berry fly in the fish's mouth.

Thomas - the fish were generally pretty spooky all day. They also seemed to be missing from the water under several of the trees, despite a ton of berries dropping. The turtles were sure enjoying it though.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 10:22 AM, tperkins <thomas....@gmail.com> wrote:

Explains why the carp were so spooky there yesterday evening! I had one come and look at my fly and that was it. All the others spooked as soon as I stopped walking. Well done!

On Monday, June 8, 2015 at 10:12:35 AM UTC-4, Scott S wrote:

Great story, Jeff! And whoever you had take those photos did a fantastic job! Was it just a passer-by? If so luck was on your side that day... landing that fish (against all odds) and finding someone to take quality photos of it!

Well done!

--Scott

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:28 AM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'll second what Aaron said about the bigger splat. The berries we used worked great, but just didn't have as good of a splat as the real thing. The other thing I noticed was sometimes the carp would swoop in while the berry was still subsurface. They took a long time to float back to the surface in some cases. By the way, Aaron is probably the most committed person to catching a fish and helping others do so I've ever seen. He threw away all abandon and laid in poison ivy to try to net one, and I'm pretty sure he was about to jump in the canal if needed.

I was able to get took more hook ups after Aaron had to leave. One monster broke me off after 15-20 seconds. I managed to somehow land the last one, though. I was fishing near the south side of the old boat in the end of the canal, and didn't have a good game plan for landing a fish. i literally have no idea how I landed it, because nearly everything possible went wrong, but I still managed to get it to the net. It went on a hell of a run and of course made a sharp left around the bridge pilings. He had no thoughts about slowing down, and I started seeing my fly line getting low. I contemplated for a minute breaking him off on purpose because I was afraid he'd sever my backing and I'd loose the whole line, but I figured I'd press on and hope it held. I saw almost 100 feet of backing before I stopped the fish, and luckily it held. Also luckily, the fish decided to come back around the correct side of the pilings to not completely wrap me up. But it wasn't over yet. Once I cleared him of the boat, the fish decided to swim around the other side of the boat, promptly getting the leader stuck on the boat itself. At that point, I had to do some passing the rod around some trees, walk across the bridge, and somehow popped the line free. At this point, there's a good 25 people watching this spectacle. Finally, I walked the fish down to the end and was able to scoop him up to the cheers of the crowd. I felt the leader, and it felt like I was running my hand over sandpaper. I still have no idea how it held up. The pictures don't do the size of the fish justice, but it was probably pushing pretty darn close to 10 lbs.

On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Aaron O <osh...@gmail.com> wrote:

So I went with Jeff to the canal this morning in a hunt for mulberry trees and carp.  We fished with some success up and down the canal until I had to leave for work.  Jeff was able to to catch two carp (one was 3 and 4 pounds and the other one was 6 to 7 pounds) and I had only one sold hook up from a large carp but I over set the hook and snapped the tippet.  I plan on going out again real soon to give it another try.

What I will say is that depending on the timing, fishing with mulberries can be productive.  I would suggest that if anyone was going to try with mulberry flies, that you tie them in white foam and use red and dark purple markers for variations between the three colors.  I would also make a couple with a weighted core to have it float in the subsurface and give a good SPLAT! to better imitate the landing of a real berry.

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[Jeffrey Silvan]

Left out one other good pic.

[river rat]

at fletcher's boat house, near the bridge that crosses over the canal----also, there are 2 trees in georgetown, the 2nd is about 1/4 mile beyond key bridge (walking in the direction of fletcher's).  i've been catching carp under these trees since 1970, lol.