Well, I'm not crazy about including those two along with Life. It's not
like they were published together initially - publishing them together
was Birbeck Hill's own editorial choice 100 years after the fact, and as
we discussed they could certainly be produced separately.
How many endnotes refer to Hebrides/Wales by specific page number? The
thing is too, is that it's not like we can have specific page numbers in
ebooks anyway. We'd already have to replace specific page number
references with *something* that's not page numbers. Would it really be
so bad to replace them all with "see this section of Hebrides/Wales" and
maybe even cross link to a hash in those separate ebooks? Like:
See <a
href="
https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/boswell/hebrides/text/chapter-3#chapter-3-p-12">this
section of Hebrides</a>.
I suppose that would mean you'd produce those other two books
simultaneously, but you'd be doing that anyway if we put them all into
one ebook.
On 7/3/22 8:20 PM, David Grigg wrote:
> OK, major announcement: I'm thinking of going right back to scratch with
> this project, for a variety of reasons. All is not lost, however: I've
> gained a pretty good understanding of what I have to work with; I know
> the manual modernize-spellings I'll need to do; I know where a lot of
> the target anchors need to be for "see page NNN" references, and so on.
> I haven't yet started to proof the actual body text.
>
> Why do I want to go back to scratch, then?
>
> Firstly, I can no longer be completely confident that I've kept my
> [Editorial] commits completely clean given my newer understanding about
> what we consider Editorial (for example, I hadn't considered removing
> periods after roman numerals to be be Editorial), and I've taken on
> board Alex's direction that we should do more "atomic" commits.
>
> Secondly, there are a number of faults in the transcription on which I
> need to make better notes in order to advise Gutenberg about them.
>
> Most importantly, I am no longer of the opinion that it's possible to
> separate out the /Life/ from /Tour to the Hebrides/ and /Diary of a
> Journey to Wales/, all of which are contained within the Birbeck-Hill
> edition which Gutenberg transcribed and for which I have page scans.
>
> The problem is that many, many of Birbeck-Hill's footnotes/endnotes link
> between all three works. I tried just changing "see page NNNN" links to
> Volume V and VI to be generic references to /Hebrides/ and /Diary/, but
> it seems weird for me to give page number references to these as though
> they were to separate books, whereas in fact they are within the same
> Birbeck-Hill edition.
>
> I would propose that we do the whole of Birbeck-Hill as one production,
> perhaps with a title/subtitle of /Life of Samuel Johnson/Including
> Boswell’s Journal of a Tour to the Hebrides and Johnson’s Diary of a
> Journey Into North Wales/.
>
> What do you think?
>
> On Friday, 22 April 2022 at 14:13:42 UTC+10 David Grigg wrote:
>
> It's worth saying that in the case of Boswell, there are no (or very
> few) footnotes to footnotes as such, which I think is your problem
> in Gibbon.
>
> It's more that there are footnotes which /refer/ to other footnotes,
> eg: blah blah blah, and see this other note here", so what I've got
> is hyperlinks within one note linking to another, not endnote links
> inside endnotes (which don't work, as you've pointed out). As I
> understand it, such hyperlinks should work in most ereader devices.
> Certainly they'll work fine if the (human) reader is working their
> way through endnotes.xhtml as such.
> On 22 Apr 2022, 9:52 AM +1000, Vince <
vr_se...@letterboxes.org>, wrote:
>>> On Apr 21, 2022, at 6:29 PM, Alex Cabal
>>> <
al...@standardebooks.org> wrote:
>>> …
>>> Some ereaders might not render hyperlinks in popup endnotes, but
>>> others do…
>>
>> It’s not a matter of readers not /rendering/ the hyperlinks, it’s
>> a matter of the hyperlinks /working/(to another endnote; links in
>> endnotes to text did mostly work in my testing). IOW, tapping on
>> them does nothing, or does a completely wrong thing.
>>
>> I’ve asked this question before: what ereaders (hardware or
>> software) fully support endnotes with a link to another endnote,
>> i.e. having tapped on the first-level endnote reference and
>> getting the endnote text however the reader does it, you can then
>> tap on the link in that endnote and view the second-level endnote
>> directly?
>> /
>> /
>> /None/ of the ones do that I (and others, at the time) tried when
>> I first started looking at Gibbon. Granted, that’s been two years,
>> so something could have changed since then. But as long as the
>> answer is zero (and, as far as I know right now, it /is/ zero),
>> then we are hurting /every/ current reader for some mythical,
>> <
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/standardebooks/A1600646-23DA-4AD3-BC23-DEC4FF9F753C%40letterboxes.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>.
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