[Next Project] Driven Back to Eden by Edward Payson Roe

[ʗharlie ßowman]

Scans on IA

Transcript on PG

About 66k words

[Alex Cabal]

OK, you can get started on that. I don't see any italics in the
transcription so the PG transcription may have removed formatting.
You'll have to eyeball each page scan to see if we have to restore any
formatting. I already see that there's a facsimile of a letter in the
page scans, so you can convert that to SVG to include in the ebook.

Please send a link to your repo once you get started!

On 2/5/24 10:07 PM, ʗharlie ßowman wrote:
> Scans on IA
> <https://archive.org/details/missloudrivenbac00roeerich>
> Transcript on PG <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/5269>
> About 66k words
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[ʗharlie ßowman]

Finally got started on this (life got busy.)

Github repo: https://github.com/cbbowman/edward-payson-roe_driven-back-to-eden
Candidate art: "The Flood Gate" by Homer Watson - https://standardebooks.org/artworks/homer-watson/the-flood-gate

I took a stab at making the SVG of the handwritten letter using Inkscape. One question I had was regarding the alt-text for the letter. My first thought was that the alt text should be an exact transcription of the note. And since that would be too long for an entry in the LoI, the LoI entry should just be something like  "A letter."

Are their any other SE works that have already done handwritten letters?

[Alex Cabal]

OK, Vince will manage this with Weijia reviewing.

Vince can you look at the cover art and address his questions below?

On 10/1/25 9:13 AM, ʗharlie ßowman wrote:
> Finally got started on this (life got busy.)
>
> Github repo: https://github.com/cbbowman/edward-payson-roe_driven-back-
> to-eden
> Candidate art: "The Flood Gate" by Homer Watson - https://
> standardebooks.org/artworks/homer-watson/the-flood-gate
>
> I took a stab at making the SVG of the handwritten letter using
> Inkscape. One question I had was regarding the alt-text for the letter.
> My first thought was that the alt text should be an exact transcription
> of the note. And since that would be too long for an entry in the LoI,
> the LoI entry should just be something like  "A letter."
>
> Are their any other SE works that have already done handwritten letters?
>
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 10:27:46 AM UTC-5 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> OK, you can get started on that. I don't see any italics in the
> transcription so the PG transcription may have removed formatting.
> You'll have to eyeball each page scan to see if we have to restore any
> formatting. I already see that there's a facsimile of a letter in the
> page scans, so you can convert that to SVG to include in the ebook.
>
> Please send a link to your repo once you get started!
>
> On 2/5/24 10:07 PM, ʗharlie ßowman wrote:
> > Scans on IA

> > <https://archive.org/details/missloudrivenbac00roeerich <https://
> archive.org/details/missloudrivenbac00roeerich>>
> > Transcript on PG <https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/5269 <https://

> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/5269>>
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[Vince]

The alt should contain the text of the letter, but there’s nothing in SEMoS that limits the length of the LOI entry.

The art is in our database so PD is obviously OK, but how does it relate to the book, and please do a mockup of how it would look as a cover.

[ʗharlie ßowman]

Understood. The line in the SEMoS that made me think the LoI entry needed to be short was this:

"If the <figcaption> element is too long for a concise LoI entry, the alt attribute is used instead.

One of the over-arcing themes of the book is perseverance against nature. The contrast between the storm and the man seemed really fitting. 
I've attached a mockup.

[Weijia Cheng]

Ok, noted.

[ʗharlie ßowman]

The handwritten note has a word inserted with a caret; would it be appropriate to describe this in the alt text?

"It can be bought at about [the word "about" inserted with a caret] the figure you name"

[Vince]

Unless it’s pertinent, i.e. mentioned, I don’t think so. Whether it’s inserted or not doesn’t make any difference to someone reading it.

On Oct 1, 2025, at 1:41 PM, ʗharlie ßowman <c.b.b...@gmail.com> wrote:

The handwritten note has a word inserted with a caret; would it be appropriate to describe this in the alt text?

"It can be bought at about [the word "about" inserted with a caret] the figure you name"

<Screenshot from 2025-10-01 14-38-30.png>

[ʗharlie ßowman]

Ok. It's not directly referenced later in the story, so I'll leave it out. Thanks!