[Next project] The Spoilt Child: A Tale of Hindu Domestic Life by Peary Chand Mitra

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Chelsea McGill

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Jun 24, 2026, 8:17:51 AMJun 24
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Hi, 

I would like to propose this book as my next project. It is the first novel written in Bengali, and is a satire of Bengali society in the mid-1800s. 

The sources are: 
Best, 
Chelsea

Alex Cabal

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Jun 24, 2026, 10:28:56 AMJun 24
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I would place this book at advanced difficulty. It has frontmatter, lots
of internal formatting, a good number of endnotes, and also a glossary.
Glossaries require special attention and a lot of work, see
https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.8/single-page#7.11

If you think you can handle it, then I start a repo and send a link. But
you could also try your hand at a more moderate difficulty production first.

On 6/24/26 7:17 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to propose this book as my next project. It is the first
> novel written in Bengali, and is a satire of Bengali society in the
> mid-1800s.
>
> The sources are:
>
> https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/69173 <https://www.gutenberg.org/
> ebooks/69173>
>
> https://archive.org/details/TheSpoiltChild <https://archive.org/details/
> TheSpoiltChild>
>
>
> Best,
> Chelsea
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Chelsea McGill

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Jun 24, 2026, 11:16:45 PMJun 24
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Hi all, 

I started working on this book. The Github repository is https://github.com/chelseamcgill4/peary-chand-mitra_the-spoilt-child_g-d-oswell

Best, 
Chelsea

Alex Cabal

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Jun 25, 2026, 10:05:40 AMJun 25
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OK, David will manage with Robin reviewing.

On 6/24/26 10:16 PM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I started working on this book. The Github repository is https://
> github.com/chelseamcgill4/peary-chand-mitra_the-spoilt-child_g-d-oswell
>
> Best,
> Chelsea
>
> On Wednesday, June 24, 2026 at 7:58:56 PM UTC+5:30 Alex Cabal wrote:
>
> I would place this book at advanced difficulty. It has frontmatter,
> lots
> of internal formatting, a good number of endnotes, and also a glossary.
> Glossaries require special attention and a lot of work, see
> https://standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.8/single-page#7.11 <https://
> standardebooks.org/manual/1.8.8/single-page#7.11>
>
> If you think you can handle it, then I start a repo and send a link.
> But
> you could also try your hand at a more moderate difficulty
> production first.
>
> On 6/24/26 7:17 AM, Chelsea McGill wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to propose this book as my next project. It is the
> first
> > novel written in Bengali, and is a satire of Bengali society in the
> > mid-1800s.
> >
> > The sources are:
> >
> > https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/69173 <https://
> www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/69173> <https://www.gutenberg.org/
> details/TheSpoiltChild> <https://archive.org/details/ <https://
> archive.org/details/>
> > TheSpoiltChild>
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Chelsea
> >
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Chelsea McGill

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Jun 26, 2026, 11:44:45 PMJun 26
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Hi, is there a list of the spelling modernization changes that are made with Se Modernize Spelling .? There are multiple instances of the word Hookah spelled Hooka, and I need to know whether I should add the Bengali language semantics or not. 

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Chelsea

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David

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Jun 27, 2026, 5:00:48 AMJun 27
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The list of words "modernized" can be found in this module, but perhaps better "diagnostics" in this case:
So in your cases, you would want to change those: `[Editorial] hooka -> hookah` and no italics or semantics are required.

Chelsea McGill

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Aug 1, 2026, 11:54:49 PM (9 days ago) Aug 1
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Hi David, 

Something is wrong with my Github account so I have created a new repository: https://github.com/chelsea-mcgill4/peary-chand-mitra_the-spoilt-child_g-d-oswell

Please keep an eye on my commits and let me know if I'm doing anything wrong or need to rebase anything. Thanks! 

Chelsea

David

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Aug 2, 2026, 7:00:08 AM (9 days ago) Aug 2
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It's looking okay so far. I was initially concerned that your last public commit should have been `[Editorial]`, but it fact it simply follows your scan copy, so all good. :) (I wonder where PG got the italics for direct speech from?)

I won't be *monitoring* your repo, though. If you're uncertain at any step, by far the best thing to do is ask here (with relevant links to scans, of course).

Chelsea McGill

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Aug 3, 2026, 1:32:16 AM (8 days ago) Aug 3
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Hi David, 

Thanks for this! Please see my last commit - there is drama formatting scattered around in many chapters, so I have formatted it according to Standard Ebooks manual of style for Drama. Please check to see whether I did it correctly, and whether I should have formatted it differently. You can see a sample of the scan here (for Ch. 5): https://archive.org/details/TheSpoiltChild/page/n57/mode/2up

Best, 
Chelsea

David

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Aug 3, 2026, 4:45:27 AM (8 days ago) Aug 3
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I *think* that "drama" markup looks okay (I've rarely used it myself), but you still need to add the relevant CSS rules to `local.css`. You'll need to get copy/paste from SEMoS:

When it gets to "lint" stage, any unused rules will be flagged for removal.

~ ~ ~ ~ ~

While I was at your repo, I took a quick look at the other commits. There's some missing markup from the heading reformat commit. You need to wrap the `<h2... / <p...` lines with `hgroup` - see the second example ("A Fellow Traveller") in SEMoS 6.2.1.6.3. A judicious bit of regex should be able to take care of that fairly swiftly!

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Hi David, 

Chelsea McGill

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Aug 4, 2026, 7:09:46 AM (7 days ago) Aug 4
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Hi David, 

Thanks for this - I have made the changes as you requested. 

I have two major editorial changes I want to make, and I want your feedback first about if I should do it, and when I should do it. 
1. Making the very long quotations in the preface into blockquotes
2. Breaking the long paragraphs in the chapters into smaller paragraphs, mostly based on who is speaking (the paragraphs can have 3+ people speaking in them, which can get confusing for a modern reader). You can see examples here: https://archive.org/details/TheSpoiltChild/page/n29/mode/2up. This is done throughout the text, and I think it would make sense to break the paragraphs up instead.

Do let me know what you think about these. Thanks! 
Chelsea

David

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Aug 4, 2026, 7:35:45 AM (7 days ago) Aug 4
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1. Given how those extracts are signalled, I think it makes sense to break them out into blockquotes (no semantics needed for that). In this case, you should also remove the double quotes, and you will then need to replace the "internal" single quotes with double quotes. This is `[Editorial]`, of course.

2. No, just leave those alone. This was a common enough practice in older works, and not one that we "update" for our editions.

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Hi David, 

Chelsea McGill

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Aug 6, 2026, 10:47:15 PM (4 days ago) Aug 6
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Hi David, 

I was working on the endnotes, and had a question about formatting. Many of the endnotes start with <i>Literally</i>  - should I keep the italics? See https://archive.org/details/TheSpoiltChild/page/n243/mode/2up

Thanks, 
Chelsea

David Reimer

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Aug 7, 2026, 4:33:34 AM (4 days ago) Aug 7
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No, those Italics can go.

Chelsea McGill

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Aug 9, 2026, 1:53:03 AM (2 days ago) Aug 9
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Hi David, 

I had another question about formatting in the endnotes. Several of them are formatted in this way currently, with a quotation from the play Sakuntala. The translator is mentioned after the quotation. I assume the <cite> element should be around the actual work that is cited, but how should I mark up and format the Translator's name?

<li id="note-20">
<p>The fear that a Hindoo feels lest he shall have no one to offer the customary libations to his manes and those of his ancestors is expressed in <cite><i epub:type="se:name.publication.play">Sakuntala.</i></cite> King Dushyanta says:⁠—</p>
<blockquote epub:type="z3998:verse">
<p>
<span>“No son remains in King Dushyanta’s place”</span>
<br/>
<span>“To offer sacred homage to the dead”</span>
<br/>
<span>“Of Purus’ noble line: my ancestors”</span>
<br/>
<span>“Must drink these glistening tears the last libation”</span>
<br/>
<span>“A childless man can ever hope to make them.”</span>
</p>
</blockquote>
<p style="text-align:right;">Sir M. Monier-William’s Translation.<a href="chapter-9.xhtml#noteref-20" epub:type="backlink">↩</a></p>


Best, 
Chelsea

David

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Aug 9, 2026, 4:50:36 AM (2 days ago) Aug 9
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Close! (I struggle with `cite` in endnotes sometimes still....) Here's an endnote with the correct structure for what you've got in this note. You can use that as a "template" for your note.

Chelsea McGill

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Aug 9, 2026, 11:26:12 PM (2 days ago) Aug 9
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Hi David, 

I have pushed the citation commit - could you please check it over and let me know if any other changes are needed? Thanks! 

Chelsea

David

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Aug 10, 2026, 4:30:46 AM (yesterday) Aug 10
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I think that looks good, Chelsea. Of course you'll be running `se clean` again (perhaps many times, I do!) and it may tweak the layout, but I think your markup looks correct.
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